PA PA - Kortne Ciera Stouffer, 21, Palmyra, 29 July 2012 #7

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Other than KS walking out of the apartment on her own and meeting with misadventure at another location, removing her from the apartment inside a rolled up rug is at the top of my list. Given that most actors don't spend a lot of time digging a grave or carrying remains miles into a wooded area, I'm a little surprised that a hunter has not found them. Given time restraints to drive somewhere, dump the remains and drive back before anyone noticed, she can't be all that far away.
I agree - no matter what suspect you think, she wouldn't be far. That's why I've always wondered if she was on personal property (as far as I remember, searches were all on public property). There were no searches of homes/private properties IIRC.
 
I agree - no matter what suspect you think, she wouldn't be far. That's why I've always wondered if she was on personal property (as far as I remember, searches were all on public property). There were no searches of homes/private properties IIRC.
They'd need probable cause or the owner's permission.
 
For those that live in the Harrisburg area, there is a very popular Facebook page called "Channel 5 Ratchet News". 2 days ago, they posted an article from Penn Live about a woman, HL whose remains were just found in the area. HL's story has nothing to do with this case but the discussion turned to KS.
In the Facebook comments, there is someone very publicly accusing one of AB's home invasion buddies (JW) for the murder of KS.
 
Part of me gets a human trafficking vibe from this.
I highly doubt it. Though anything is possible, KS is not the type of person that someone would have encountered and said, "This girl with cops at her house looks docile, I'm gonna kidnap her...". She was fierce, passionate, and already in the mood to do battle - pretty much the opposite of what traffickers look for. Human traffickers usually do things to get an already vulnerable victim completely separated from any help - they don't just barge in and kidnap a random person.
The person who did this is most likely one of the names already mentioned in this forum (Occam's Razor). In fact, it would not surprise me if that person reads these pages just in case.
 
I have never gotten a human trafficking vibe from it. This was done by someone Kortne knew and had an issue with.

This was not a passive girl, who would sit back and take it. I am surprised no one heard anything that night, because if Kortne were able to make some noise she would have.
 
There has always been rumors of the wankster responsible posting on social media trying to steer folks towards red herrings. The posts stating she ran away or blaming the neighbor seem likely i would guess.

Those that know value their drug and wankster connections. And the actual circumstances are probably as cringey as that crowd of names (and their friends) that are related to this case. Wanksters hold their perceived gangsters in the highest regards and the whole KS is group is corny kids trying to be thugs, bikers, dealers, scarface. Makes sense when KS was a wannabe hippie/drug “kingpin”. CP and MR and JW, etc the wannabe rappers gangsta, AV a wannabe biker gangster. Yeah, common sense leans towards the soft white belly kids playing scarface/suge knight. What a cringey bunch of posers
 
There has always been rumors of the wankster responsible posting on social media trying to steer folks towards red herrings. The posts stating she ran away or blaming the neighbor seem likely i would guess.

Those that know value their drug and wankster connections. And the actual circumstances are probably as cringey as that crowd of names (and their friends) that are related to this case. Wanksters hold their perceived gangsters in the highest regards and the whole KS is group is corny kids trying to be thugs, bikers, dealers, scarface. Makes sense when KS was a wannabe hippie/drug “kingpin”. CP and MR and JW, etc the wannabe rappers gangsta, AV a wannabe biker gangster. Yeah, common sense leans towards the soft white belly kids playing scarface/suge knight. What a cringey bunch of posers
From your user name, by chance do you live about 45 minutes south of Harrisburg?
 
Sure?

Interesting posts on social media by by family and persons of interest…common sense makes sense
 
Code-speak for you two know each other?
 
Code-speak for you two know each other?
nada…

…but some wanksters of interest who were in multiple vehicles that night shared this. Getting lots of heat from the local area. LE being pressed

For those still asking, carpet was confirmed missing at the time of ballester/memorial lake interview by the father. Carpet was missing.

Let’s Go! Anyone close to the family n friends involved please get anymore pertinent information out now, it’s time. LE hasn’t moved. Get what you know out and let the public know. We don’t want these f-ups responsible to hurt any other friends and families. Whoever responsible were adults then and adults now. Would you want your kids to be playing at their house with their kids, something goes wrong and you never hear about what actually happened ever again!?!?!

Way past due. No one wants people who can’t be trusted to this extent in any community. They can move, but the untrustworthy shadiness with tragic results never leaves wherever they go.

Righteous wishes.
 
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I've always wondered if this case has been silent because the police know it's JW and they're a little short on evidence, but not feeling the need to push heavily since he's been in prison since 2016 with a fair bit left on his sentence.
What’s he in for?
 
“I don't know what else it's going to take....they were seen cleaning out the car the next day "to return to their grandma". There is an eye witness that saw them taking muddy shovels out of their truck along with taking their muddy boots off on the tailgate of their truck soon after she disappeared and now they post some *advertiser censored* like this on facebook. HELLO DETECTIVES..”
 
“Also the last time the cops were called was for a noise complaint from the neighbors of stomping on the floor above them and the dog barking. Well her dog wasn't a barker and never was. I think kortne wasn't stomping to piss the neighbors off but she was being attacked by cody and fighting for her life and the dog was witnessing it and barking to try and protect kortne. There was a missing carpet from her apartment obviously what they used to roll her up in after things had gotten out of hand...”
 

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