Australia - father accused of trying to kill family in housefire, 3 of 7 children killed - Lalor Park NSW - July 2024

[nhmemorymaker]

I just hope for massive caring, counseling, skilled coping for all those first responders and neighbors, and the whole community.
I am certain many have children, so getting over this will take....forever.

I hope we also learn of family members who show up to help this shattered family

 

[Helen_Stewart]

I can't even begin to imagine what his partner and surviving kids are going through, let alone the neighbours who witnessed the horrific events.

 

[investikater]

Heartbreaking moment for mum of three kids killed in horror house fire

A mother who lost three children in a house fire allegedly lit by her partner has returned to the scene of devastation for the first time.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[investikater]

I just hope for massive caring, counseling, skilled coping for all those first responders and neighbors, and the whole community.
I am certain many have children, so getting over this will take....forever.

I hope we also learn of family members who show up to help this shattered family

It sounds like her parents are supporting her
Thank goodness

 

[Helen_Stewart]

Maybe it's just me, but I can't imagine wanting to go back there for any reason.

 

[iamshadow21]

Maybe it's just me, but I can't imagine wanting to go back there for any reason.

People do revisit places they've been hurt to try and give grounding and context for their experiences.

It's not something everyone wants or needs, but some do.

MOO

 

[investikater]

*There are shocking new claims about the father who allegedly killed three of his children by barricading them inside their Lalor Park home then setting it alight.Their mother and four siblings survived, one telling rescuers his dad tried to kill him and held a knife to his throat.
More details: Dad accused of killing three of his young kids in house fire identified

So we've gone from not known to the police to frequent visits by the police?!

 

[Helen_Stewart]

People do revisit places they've been hurt to try and give grounding and context for their experiences.

It's not something everyone wants or needs, but some do.

MOO

I understand that, but wouldn't her time be better spent with her surviving kids who must be going through hell right now? I suppose everybody reacts differently to trauma and I'm not in any way having a go at this poor woman. Just trying to understand her need for revisiting the house, while her kids are still coming to terms with the horror.

 

[iamshadow21]

I understand that, but wouldn't her time be better spent with her surviving kids who must be going through hell right now? I suppose everybody reacts differently to trauma and I'm not in any way having a go at this poor woman. Just trying to understand her need for revisiting the house, while her kids are still coming to terms with the horror.

She would have been in a completely different hospital to her children. So on her release, she would have had to travel regardless.

She may have returned to the home to see if there was anything to salvage - the childrens' comfort toys or blankets. But it's entirely possible she also wanted to thank her neighbours who helped save the lives of her and the children.

MOO

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Maybe it's just me, but I can't imagine wanting to go back there for any reason.

Ohhhhh how I thought the exact same thing. They could have shown her videos of the well wishes...
But going back just looks like more visual trauma.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

She should mourn in any way that feels right.
On a different case here a mother was quoted as saying she felt comforted by being at the last place her child had been...

 

[Lilibet]

She would have been in a completely different hospital to her children. So on her release, she would have had to travel regardless.

She may have returned to the home to see if there was anything to salvage - the childrens' comfort toys or blankets. But it's entirely possible she also wanted to thank her neighbours who helped save the lives of her and the children.

MOO

Thank you for your compassion and for giving this poor mother the benefit of the doubt instead of looking for reasons to criticize her.

Just because returning to the scene is not something I might feel up to doing, that doesn’t make her desire to be there wrong and it doesn’t mean that the time she spends there means she is neglecting her children. She is a victim. Thank you again for your kind heart.

JMO

 

[investikater]

I think I'd want to go back to salvage stuff or to check the people who had done the salvaging for me hadn't missed anything

Everyone is different

 

[SouthAussie]

I heard on the radio this morning that the Prime Minister has been considering awarding a bravery medal to the neighbour who rescued the children from the house fire.

I have been looking for a media reference, but I am not able to find one. I heard it on Triple J news, so I imagine ABC might print something about it at some point in time.

imo


ETA: I have found a reference by Chris Minns (NSW Premier)

The New South Wales premier, Chris Minns, is open to awarding bravery medals to neighbours who tried to save children from a burning home in Sydney’s west over the weekend.

Speaking outside the state parliament today, he said:

It’s not a lot of relief when you see such a horrifying alleged crime but there is, even in these terrible, terrible events, an opportunity to see regular people doing extraordinary things.
It’s a reminder that, for every terrible act out there, there are wonderful people in our community that will put themselves second and a complete stranger first if they’re in trouble.

Australia news live: ‘seventh alarm’ fire engulfs factory in Melbourne’s west

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www.theguardian.com

 

[asmi106082]

I understand that, but wouldn't her time be better spent with her surviving kids who must be going through hell right now? I suppose everybody reacts differently to trauma and I'm not in any way having a go at this poor woman. Just trying to understand her need for revisiting the house, while her kids are still coming to terms with the horror.

The article linked above said they took her back to see the large memorial the neighborhood had created for them. It said the police blocked off their street and escorted her and her parents to the site of the flowers, cards, stuffed animals, etc.

I think they wanted her to see how much support and love her entire family is receiving. JMO

 

[vls12345]

This is an upsetting and devastating case.

Maybe the mum wanted to go by the home to mourn her children who did not survive. And that gesture may eventually be hugely important to her surviving children, knowing their mum braves hard things to be there for her children. Imo.

Sending much love and healing for the mom, the children, the neighbors, and the first responders. Such a large ripple of people impacted forevermore by the selfish, horrible father.

 

[SouthAussie]

So many people deeply affected ......


But it was an innocent exchange Eve shared with the four-year-old who escaped, as he looked back at the charred remains of his home, that stays with her.

“He just kept asking whether his toys would be safe inside.”

Somehow, she “blames herself” for the deaths of the children across the road because she didn’t notice the inferno sooner, didn’t call emergency services fast enough.

And yet, her actions were both brave and consequential.

‘Dad tried to kill us’: The fire that devastated Australia

 

[investikater]

So many people deeply affected ......


But it was an innocent exchange Eve shared with the four-year-old who escaped, as he looked back at the charred remains of his home, that stays with her.

“He just kept asking whether his toys would be safe inside.”

Somehow, she “blames herself” for the deaths of the children across the road because she didn’t notice the inferno sooner, didn’t call emergency services fast enough.

And yet, her actions were both brave and consequential.

‘Dad tried to kill us’: The fire that devastated Australia

It's so sad in so many ways.

Exactly as you say; so many so deeply affected - and yet I have the distinct feeling that the accused was only thinking of himself

 

[nhmemorymaker]

@SouthAussie what does "housing commission property " mean. They appear to be nice brick family homes

 

[iamshadow21]

@SouthAussie what does "housing commission property " mean. They appear to be nice brick family homes

It's public housing owned by the government for low income, disabled, elderly, or otherwise disadvantaged families or individuals.

The waitlists to get in public housing are incredibly long, the quality of the housing itself is variable (see the recent gas explosion in another Sydney property), and there is often a high proportion of drug and alcohol use, crime, and poverty in areas with a high density of public housing.

There is discrimination against people who come from public housing backgrounds.

MOO