Found Deceased Spain - Jay Slater, 19, missing on holiday in Tenerife, 17 June 2024 #5

[suzyjackson]

MWT has shared a video of the area where he was found. No coordinates yet but it looks very rugged

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That's a very helpful video to show to everyone who asks why they didn't find him before now despite having searched that general area

 

[Curiousraccoon]

They might not share the coordinates for a while, to prevent Tiktokers from turning it into an attraction immediately. Just IMO what I would do if I was the police in this situation.
Edited: grammar

 

[talby66]

Why does she need to apologise? It was the police themselves who announced the search was over:

• 30 June 2024

The search for missing British teenager Jay Slater in Tenerife has been called off, police say.
Tenerife's Guardia Civil told the BBC: “The search operation is over. Yesterday was the final day of the search."

Jay Slater: Search for missing teenager in Tenerife called off by police - BBC News

The 19-year-old from Lancashire has been missing on the island of Tenerife for almost two weeks.

www.bbc.co.uk

True but they didn't need to repeat it in a way that seemed negative plus all the "we must get British police, etc out here". As it happens I find it a little difficult to believe that the police didn't tell them they were continuing and since they and all their "support" were/are out their looking for Jay you'd think they'd have noticed continued activity.

 

[Bahshudc]

I agree there has been a large amount of criticism towards the Spanish police, but there’s little to complain about now as they’ve been continuing searches on the low and successfully done their job. Would’ve been the same in any country with terrain like this, it takes a long time, and that isn’t police’s fault. Just as frustrating for the family though, regardless. Moo.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

True but they didn't need to repeat it in a way that seemed negative plus all the "we must get British police, etc out here". As it happens I find it a little difficult to believe that the police didn't tell them they were continuing and since they and all their "support" were/are out their looking for Jay you'd think they'd have noticed continued activity.

See Grouse’s post a few up with the full quote. I don’t think it was negative at all, just factual. Sure, they wouldn’t have been delighted to hear the search had ended - who would - but they don’t owe an apology!

 

[jackal67]

"A helicopter -
believed to belong to a regional government emergency and rescue group
-
was used to recover the body using a winch
because the ground was so steep,
with officials coordinating with Civil Guard mountain rescue experts.

It is thought specialists on the ground
winched the body up to the waiting helicopter overhead after securing it.

They also found possessions and clothes belonging to the teenager."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1812867481322569735

That makes sense that a helicopter was used to recover Jays body..But how was it discovered and by whom if it was in such an area?

 

[Grouse]

See Grouse’s post a few up with the full quote. I don’t think it was negative at all, just factual. Sure, they wouldn’t have been delighted to hear the search had ended - who would - but they don’t owe an apology!

I won't risk getting in trouble for taking the thread off onto comparisons with other cases, but I think in this case it seems they were being quite clear and transparent how the money was being used by the family to aid the search etc.

 

[jackal67]

I agree with the simplest of speculation, for the most part. Young man, out of his element, likely not thinking clearly, dehydrated, with a sense of desperation, possible panic setting in, makes for a dangerous situation in already dangerous terrain.

I just can't shake the idea that he may have been running from something, trying to avoid a greater danger, that taking the risk of the elements, and the dangerous terrain, looked better to him than going back to the comfort of the blacktop road, the b&b, or....even the more rational decision, prior to departing that little hamlet there, await the next bus. Why couldn't he simply sit tight, and await the next bus?

Or wait for Lucy to arrive in a taxi as she had his last location?

 

[Dotta]

That makes sense that a helicopter was used to recover Jays body..But how was it discovered and by whom if it was in such an area?

It is all terrifying
I cannot imagine going into this wilderness alone.
Even looking at the video gives me shivers

 

[jackal67]

That's a very helpful video to show to everyone who asks why they didn't find him before now despite having searched that general area

Thats truly shocked me. Those guys are incredible for what they do.

 

[Firstsnow4]

Signi Zoekhonden team have posted an update on their facebook page in Dutch. This is a Google translate:

"Today, Jay's body was found in Tenerife by a Spanish search team.
Signi search dogs started searching early this morning to avoid the heat.
The start was at the last telephone signal.
The dogs picked up the track well and took turns. The first indications were hopeful. The conditions were tough.
During the afternoon the dogs took a break to continue their search later in the day.
Then the news came quickly that the Spanish rescue team had found a body lower in the area. Presumably Jay.
Signi search dogs wishes the family a lot of strength with this immense sadness..."

ETA: personally I'd translate it as "trace" and not track. Essentially, the dogs were on it.

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Signi Zoekhonden, Rips, Noord-Brabant, Netherlands. 9,898 likes · 18 talking about this · 5 were here. Stichting Signi Zoekhonden

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I’m really saddened by this outcome. I think we all had a little bit of hope that he may be in hiding as that would mean he was still alive. I hope if it was a fall, he died instantly and didn’t suffer.

I see in the above statement that they state that it was clear that the Spanish had found a body lower in the area. If the signi dogs started at the last ping and he was found lower down, it suggests he was in the ravine further towards the ocean, where a lot of people thought he may have headed.

RIP Jay - I’m sad you have lost your life so tragically. I hope the family can eventually come to terms with such a massive loss.

 

[talby66]

See Grouse’s post a few up with the full quote. I don’t think it was negative at all, just factual. Sure, they wouldn’t have been delighted to hear the search had ended - who would - but they don’t owe an apology!

We have been actively working with search and rescue teams ....... but clearly not in the area where the body was found or they would have noticed other activity. I'll, maybe, concede on the apology but not the thanks. I'll drop it now, it's not going anywhere.

 

[statt#1]

I’m really saddened by this outcome. I think we all had a little bit of hope that he may be in hiding as that would mean he was still alive. I hope if it was a fall, he died instantly and didn’t suffer.

I see in the above statement that they state that it was clear that the Spanish had found a body lower in the area. If the signi dogs started at the last ping and he was found lower down, it suggests he was in the ravine further towards the ocean, where a lot of people thought he may have headed.

RIP Jay - I’m sad you have lost your life so tragically. I hope the family can eventually come to terms with such a massive loss.

I agree, it appears he made his way in to an area beyond that dirt lane where those buildings were, shown numerous times in the media...there is no terrain such as that until beyond the end of that dirt lane. Looks like he may have been headed down towards the ocean.

 

[Grouse]

We have been actively working with search and rescue teams ....... but clearly not in the area where the body was found or they would have noticed other activity. I'll, maybe, concede on the apology but not the thanks. I'll drop it now, it's not going anywhere.

Yeah, I'm not sure what the problem is here. Massive credit to the Guardia Civil if as it seems, they have played it right to lower the profile to just crack on with the search, and equally credit to the family for raising the funding and doing what they did to try to find him. If Guardia hadn't maybe their team would have.

In the end he's found and that's what matters.

 

[thinker47]

That's a very helpful video to show to everyone who asks why they didn't find him before now despite having searched that general area

I still have that question - why on earth would he think that that (not the bottom of the ravine but the terrain at all) was a better option than the road or waiting for the bus or a lift? Why did he leave at all? I simply don't buy the 'young people make poor decisions' argument. He sounds a fairly steady young man. I still feel there was a reason for his sudden departure. I really want to hear MWT's explanation of his previous statement.

and... if the dogs were resting through the heat of the day, how in heaven's name did anyone find him in that area at all? Someone deserves huge thanks and respect for their diligence and courage.

 

[tedtink]

I still have that question - why on earth would he think that that (not the bottom of the ravine but the terrain at all) was a better option than the road or waiting for the bus or a lift? I simply don't buy the 'young people make poor decisions' argument. He sounds a fairly steady young man. I still feel there was a reason for his sudden departure. I really want to hear MWT's explanation of his previous statement.

and... if the dogs were resting through the heat of the day, how in heaven's name did anyone find him in that area at all? Someone deserves huge thanks and respect for their diligence and courage.

There are paths, maybe, initially he thought it would be a safe walk.
I would imagine once he'd walked so far and became lost (seemingly quite easy in that terrain) it probably became totally disorientating, under the canopy of shrubs and trees. No phone to guide him, like other's have said before, he most likely was heading towards the sea, until he lost sight of it completely.

 

[iamshadow21]

So, it's as I suspected. A young man made a poor choice and it all went wrong.

Sleep well, Jay.

 

[su5ie]

This is what Lucy (on behalf of the family) said on the 13th July

As you all know the Guardia Civil gave up the land search after 12 days.

I'm looking forward to hearing their thanks to and an apology for the Guardia Civil.

A lot of things get said by families in these distressing situations. imo, usually anger and frustration are some of the first emotions that surface, when you feel helpless and nothing is in your control

 

[statt#1]

There are paths, maybe, initially he thought it would be a safe walk.
I would imagine once he'd walked so far and became lost (seemingly quite easy in that terrain) it probably became totally disorientating, under the canopy of shrubs and trees. No phone to guide him, like other's have said before, he most likely was heading towards the sea, until he lost sight of it completely.

I tend to agree here. If he was down in altitude a fair amount, with an uphill return trip, without water, dehydrated, not thinking clearly, heat exhaustion setting in, not to mention possible darkness coming on, well, at that point, it was a lost cause. Or, he slipped and fell from a height of some sort.

It really appears to me as though he was trying to take the ravine to the sea.

 

[tedtink]

A lot of things get said by families in these distressing situations. imo, usually anger and frustration are some of the first emotions that surface, when you feel helpless and nothing is in your control

Agree, also in helpless situations we seek familiarity, hence the mention of British police imo.