Found Deceased FL - Madeline Soto, 13, Missing Child Alert, 13500 blk Town Loop Blvd, Orlando, 26 Feb 2024 *arrest* #10

[Mack the Knife]

The results of a public records request to the State Attorney: https://www.scribd.com/document/750...stigation-Into-Madeline-Sotos-Murder-64-pages

This is presumably the same set of records that MSM outlets and YouTubers have gotten ahold of recently, and includes: an incident report detailing the movements of a Lincoln MKZ and a white Nissan; emails sent to and from Stephan Sterns in Osceola County Jail; and scans of packages and books sent to Stephan Sterns in Osceola County Jail.

I've added the new records to the media thread.

TBH, if you're a person who feels an active rage toward SS, you might not want to read the email exchanges. The only really notable email (from his mom about JS) has been reported on already, and the rest is just inane chatter about their lives, and I know it is upsetting to some folks to read about SS's little requests and complaints, given what he is accused of doing.

 

[golf ladybug]

I've added the new records to the media thread.

TBH, if you're a person who feels an active rage toward SS, you might not want to read the email exchanges. The only really notable email (from his mom about JS) has been reported on already, and the rest is just inane chatter about their lives, and I know it is upsetting to some folks to read about SS's little requests and complaints, given what he is accused of doing.

Thanks for posting this!

 

[Megnut]

I've added the new records to the media thread.

TBH, if you're a person who feels an active rage toward SS, you might not want to read the email exchanges. The only really notable email (from his mom about JS) has been reported on already, and the rest is just inane chatter about their lives, and I know it is upsetting to some folks to read about SS's little requests and complaints, given what he is accused of doing.

So much to recoil at in those emails.

He's on trial for CSA and murder abd he requests a book titled Eaters of the Dead?

Signs his emails "hugs and kisses"... wants a book on Origami so he has something to do with his hands. Putrid considering the crimes he committed with his hands and his mouth. Revolting.


Again, he's charged with horrifying crimes and he makes demands on his parents who can't "jump on it" fast enough. Either they're in denial about what he's done or they somehow believe he is innocent/was set up.
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Or.... they don't care what he's done, they just want to be there for him, and feel compelled to placate him with every creature comfort available to them.

I would not provide him one cent.

JMO

 

[Mack the Knife]

Okay I tried to combine all we now know, based on evidence, of SS's movement on the "day of" MS's disappearance. This starts in the morning of Feb 26 and moves late into the night and into the early morning hours of Feb 27. This is already very long, so I did cut out some of the point by point driving bits when it doesn't appear that there were any stops or unexplained movements. Event is a factual representation of what is in the two doc dumps from the State Attorney. Narration is my summary and interpretation of those facts, as well as some of what SS's story was (read: MOO).

Edit: Looks like the format got a little wonky upon posting, but I'm guessing you can all interpret it well enough

Time	Event	Narration	Link
07:35	Lincoln MKZ IYLL82 visible at Venetian Bay Villages (VBV). A man wearing a red shirt and tan pants (presumed to be SS) exits the vehicle and throws something into the dumpster.	At 07:35, SS pulls up to the dumpster in VBV and throws something in the dumpster. He is wearing a red shirt and tan pants, and MS is visible, seemingly dead, in the passenger seat of the Lincoln MKZ.	64 page doc dump
07:35	Venetian Bay Villages trash compactor Surveillance footage shows SS discarding something in the apartment complex trash compactor while a presumably-MS is visible in the passenger seat of the Lincoln MKZ.	896 page doc dump
07:40	Lincoln MKZ IYLL82 leaves through the east gate of VBV.	At 07:40, SS drives the Lincoln MKZ through the east/rear gate of VBV to support the ruse of taking MS to school.	64 page doc dump
Prior to 7:45	A roommate who always leaves by 07:45 did not see MS leave by the time she left. Implies she did not see MS at all that morning.	896 page doc dump
07:50	Venetian Bay Villages Surveillance footage shows Lincoln MKZ leaving the through the rear gate with presumably-SS driving and presumably-MS (likely deceased) in the passenger seat.	896 page doc dump
Around 08:00 OR "7:00 or 8:00"	Venetian Bay Villages JS said she heard people in the kitchen and figured it was MS.	896 page doc dump
Around "08:00 or 08:15" OR "07:00 or 8:00"	Venetian Bay Villages JS woke up and said SS came in to put a leash on the dog and fell back asleep shortly after.	896 page doc dump
08:10	Hunter's Creek Middle School A license plate reader captured SS's Lincoln MKZ driving away from the school.	At 8:10, the Lincoln MKZ drives away from the school. According to SS's story, this would be to go back to VBV to get his gate clicker. Despite being at the school and not yet having dropped MS off yet, he says he went back home with her because they had so much time. He says he was asleep in the car.	896 page doc dump
08:11	Westbound on John Young Pkwy and Thacker	896 page doc dump
08:19	Venetian Bay Villages Surveillance footage shows Lincoln MKZ entering through the front gate with presumably-SS driving and presumably-MS (likely deceased) in the passenger seat.	At 08:19, SS arrives at VBV in the Lincoln MKZ with MS visible in the passenger seat. He enters through the front gate, which supports his claim of not having his gate clicker.	896 page doc dump
08:31	Venetian Bay Villages Surveillance footage shows Lincoln MKZ leaving through the rear gate with presumably-SS driving and presumably-MS (likely deceased) in the passenger seat.	At 08:31, the Lincoln MKZ exits VBV through the rear gate. MS is presumed to still be in the passenger seat. Under SS's story, MS is asleep in the car and they are returning to school.	896 page doc dump
08:39	Eastbound at Osceola Pkwy and Thacker	From 08:39 to 08:48, SS drives to and is in the area of Hunters Creek Middle School, where SS alleges he dropped MS off. Detectives challenge SS's description, and they both give a convoluted description of what his car was doing and seen doing. SS continues north and northwest and eventually is seen driving around Aquatica, before driving south again. Meanwhile his phone pings at VBV.	896 page doc dump
08:31	Northbound on John Young Pkwy and Thacker	896 page doc dump
08:48	Northbound John Young Pkwy and Town Center Blvd	896 page doc dump
08:58	Westbound Central Florida Pkwy and John Young Pkwy	896 page doc dump
09:01	Northbound on International Dr and Central Florida Pkwy	896 page doc dump
09:02	Northbound on International Dr and Aquatica (Rear entrance)	896 page doc dump
09:02	Northbound on International Dr and Sea Harbor Dr	896 page doc dump
09:03	Southbound on International Dr and Sea Harbor Dr	896 page doc dump
09:04	Southbound on International Dr and Aquatica (Rear entrance)	896 page doc dump
09:05	Eastbound on Central Florida Pkwy and International Dr	896 page doc dump
09:13	Near Venetian Bay Villages Phone presumed to belong to SS pings	896 page doc dump
Between 09:00 and 10:00	Witness WC observes man he believes is SS pulled over with a flat tire.	896 page doc dump
09:16	5051 Gateway Avenue, Orlando Surveillance footage from an Exxon gas station shows a silver sedan traveling eastbound.	896 page doc dump
09:25	Northbound Central Florida Pkwy and John Young Pkwy	896 page doc dump
09:35	2405 Commerce Park Dr, Orlando (near Holiday Inn Club Vacations) What is this symbol?	896 page doc dump
09:41	2405 Commerce Park Dr, Orlando (near Holiday Inn Club Vacations) What is this symbol?	896 page doc dump
09:40-09:44	Holiday Inn Club Vacations parking structure Surveillance footage shows a Lincoln MKZ pulling into the structure, then presumably-SS moving a limp body from the front passenger seat to the trunk before leaving.	SS continues driving, and at 09:40 pulls into a parking structure at Holiday Inn Club Vacations. He is shown moving a limp body, MS, from the passenger seat, and putting it into the truck. He leaves 5 minutes later and heads back to VBV. SS claims after dropping MS off that he went to the vape shop, but has an inconsistent story, none of which is supported by evidence. It appears he may have spent the last hour, since driving by Hunters Creek Middle School, trying to find somewhere to move MS's body, or form some other plan for next steps.	896 page doc dump
09:44 to 10:14	Lincoln MKZ is seen driving south and then west, back to VBV	896 page doc dump
10:14	Lincoln MKZ enters through the east gate of VBV, driven by a man who appears to be the same as the man at the dumpster at 07:35.	At 10:14, SS arrives back at VBV with MS now in the trunk of the Lincoln. He then calls JS and allegedly describes his morning dropping MS off to her, telling her he had forgotten his phone at home.	64 page doc dump
10:18	Venetian Bay Villages JS says SS called her at this point to report on his morning. He had forgotten his phone at home, and had just returned home from errands.	896 page doc dump
10:16-10:44	Near Venetian Bay Villages Phone presumed to belong to SS pings	896 page doc dump
10:46	Near Venetian Bay Villages Phone presumed to belong to SS pings	896 page doc dump
10:47-11:03	Near Venetian Bay Villages Phone presumed to belong to SS pings	896 page doc dump
10:54	Lincoln MKZ IYLL82 visible at VBV. A man wearing a blue shirt exits the vehicle and throws something in the dumpster. This appears to be the same man as at 07:35.	At 10:54, SS, now wearing a blue shirt, exits his Lincoln MKZ and throws something into the dumpster in VBV. He then exits VBV through the main gate and drives toward eSmokerOnline Vape Shop, this time bringing his phone. It takes him about 20 minutes to get there and he is there roughly 11:20-11:25. After leaving, he drives further north to an unknown location (possibly a self storage) and is there approximately 11:31-11:43 before heading back south to return through the rear gate of VBV at 11:56.	64 page doc dump
11:03	Lincoln MKZ visible at VBV passing through an intersection within the complex (San Sebastian and San Vital, the west side of the complex), then exits through the main gate.	64 page doc dump
11:03	Moving east of Venetian Bay Villages Phone presumed to belong to SS begins pinging on towers east of previous pings	896 page doc dump
11:04	Moving north Phone presumed to belong to SS begins pinging towers north of previous pings	896 page doc dump
Around 11:00 or 11:15	Venetian Bay Villages JS arrives home from her appointment and says SS was home. (It's not entirely clear if she means he was home already or just generally this period of time.)	896 page doc dump
11:16	S John Young Pkwy and Hunter’s Creek Blvd Phone presumed to belong to SS pings repeatedly	896 page doc dump
11:20-11:25	eSmokerOnline Vape Shop Phone presumed to belong to SS pings repeatedly near this shop	896 page doc dump
No time given	eSmokerOnline Vape Shop Surveillance footage shows presumably-SS in a blue shirt purchasing items and leaving shortly after.	896 page doc dump
11:26	Phone presumed to belong to SS appears to start moving	896 page doc dump
11:29-11:31	Phone presumed to belong to SS begins pinging towers north of previous pings	896 page doc dump
11:31-11:43	North of Central Florida Pkwy on S John Young Pkwy Phone presumed to belong to SS repeatedly pings in the same location. There is no official information or speculation on this are, but there is a self storage here.	896 page doc dump
11:44-11:51	Phone presumed to belong to SS beging pinging on towers south of previous pings	896 page doc dump
11:56	Lincoln MKZ enters through the rear gate of VBV with a driver consistent with the driver (presumably-SS) seen in other VBV surveillance footage.	64 page doc dump
11:57-12:47	Near Venetian Bay Villages Phone presumed to belong to SS pings	896 page doc dump
12:44	Lincoln MKZ leaves through the rear gate of the complex.	After hanging out with JS at the house for an hour, SS leaves to run additional errands at 12:44, leaving his phone at home. He claims to have gone to multiple Targets and a comic store before getting a flat tire and pulling over into a plaza on US-192. Evidence shows he actually drove east on US-192 and then south on Old Hickory Tree Rd 12:49-13:16.	64 page doc dump
12:49 to 13:17	Vehicle matching the Lincoln MKZ is visible on traffic cameras and from license plate readers moving east on Vine St, E Irlo Bronson Memorial Hwy, and 13th St (US-192) before moving south on Old Hickory Tree Rd	64 page doc dump
12:49-13:10	Continued eastbound movements on US-192	896 page doc dump
12:49-14:39	Near Venetian Bay Villages Phone presumed to belong to SS pings repeatedly at home while his vehicle is sighted moving to Old Hickory Tree Rd and back	896 page doc dump
13:16:58	A vehicle of similar style to the Lincoln MKZ passed Creative Inspirations on 2030 Old Hickory Tree Dr just south of 13th St	64 page doc dump
Approximately 13:12	Southbound past Hickory Tree Elementary School Surveillance footage shows SS’s Lincoln MKZ traveling south toward Nolte Rd. past Hickory Tree Elementary School on 2355 Old Hickory Tree Rd., Saint Cloud.	896 page doc dump
13:16	Southbound on Old Hickory Tree Rd and Creative Inspiration Gate	896 page doc dump
About 13:20	28.191031, -81.202160 Witness TC observes a silver sedan pulled over on Hickory Tree Road	From 13:16 to 13:56, there is no known footage of the Lincoln MKZ. A witness recports seeing a silver sedan pulled over on Hickory Tree Rd at about 13:20, and the location they identify is close to wear MS's body is eventually found. MS's body was found approximately 15 minutes away from the last sighting of the Lincoln MKZ and 6 minutes from the next sighting. If this was the time that SS removed MS's body from his trunk, he would have had approximately 25 minutes to both change his flat tire and dispose of the body.	896 page doc dump
Between 13:56 and 14:05	4171-3985 Hickory Tree Rd Footage taken from 4085 Malawi Trl, Saint Cloud, shows a match on the suspect vehicle traveling north on Hickory Tree Road	At 13:56, the Lincoln MKZ is seen in a reverse of the route taken to that location, headed west back toward VBV. A spare tire is visible on the rear driver's side of the vehicle. At 14:43, SS returns through the rear gate of VBV. At this point, JS has already left to pick up MS without SS.	896 page doc dump
14:11 to 14:43	Vehicle matching the Lincoln MKZ is visible on traffic cameras and from license plate readers moving west on 13th St, E Irlo Bronson Memorial Hwy, and W Vine St (US-192), returning on the same route it took east, before entering VBV.	64 page doc dump
14:17	Northbound past Hickory Tree Elementary School Surveillance footage shows SS’s Lincoln MKZ traveling north toward I-192 past Hickory Tree Elementary School on 2355 Old Hickory Tree Rd., Saint Cloud.	896 page doc dump
14:11:30	A vehicle of similar style to the Lincoln MKZ turned northbound onto Old Hickory Tree Dr and west onto 13th St "in an apparent return to path". A spare tire was visible on the rear driver's side, and had not been before.	64 page doc dump
14:12-43	Continued westbound movements on US-192 and then on the route to Venetian Bay Villages	896 page doc dump
14:30	JS said she usually leaves for school pick up by this time, and left without SS because he was not yet home.	896 page doc dump
14:43:33	Lincoln MKZ returns through the rear gate of VBV.	64 page doc dump
Between 14:50 and 15:15	Witness WC observes man he believes is SS still pulled over with a flat tire and with red headed man assisting.	896 page doc dump
14:52	Near Venetian Bay Villages Phone presumed to belong to SS pings	896 page doc dump
14:59-15:24	Near Venetian Bay Villages Phone presumed to belong to SS pings	896 page doc dump
15:24	Lincoln MKZ visible at the VBV. Presumably-SS throws something in the dumpster and leaves immediately.	SS is seen throwing items into the dumpster again at 15:24, 15:28, and 16:36. After the last trip to the dumpster, SS drives north 16:38-16:53, presumably to join JS to look for MS.	64 page doc dump
15:25-16:38	Near Venetian Bay Villages Phone presumed to belong to SS pings at the home and occasionally at a few other towers just north and east	896 page doc dump
15:28	Presumably-SS returns to the dumpster and throws more items away. It is unclear from the report if the Lincoln MKZ is visible, or if presumably-SS may have walked up.	64 page doc dump
16:35	Venetian Bay Villages trash compactor Surveillance footage shows SS (now wearing a blue shirt) removing a tire/tire tread from a Lincoln MKZ and discarding it in the apartment complex trash compactor.	896 page doc dump
16:36	Presumably-SS returns to the dumpster and throws more items away. It is unclear from the report if the Lincoln MKZ is visible, or if presumably-SS may have walked up.	64 page doc dump
16:38-16:53	Phone presumed to belong to SS pings at towers indicating he was driving to join JS and the rest of the family at grandma's office to look for MS.	896 page doc dump
03:16:15	A white Nissan ([redacted-JS]'s car) exits VBV through the main gate.	At 03:16, early on 02/27 (this could be considered the same "night" that MS was reported missing) a white Nissan belonging to JS exits VBV through the main gate. Despite similar reports for the Lincoln MKZ, reports do not currently indicate if a driver was seen in this car. It is presumed SS was driving the car, and JS told investigators that SS took her car in the middle of the night to look for MS.	64 page doc dump
03:16 to 03:35	The Nissan takes the same route east on US-192 that the Lincoln MKZ had followed 2024-02-26, ending by 2030 Old Hickory Tree Rd, with the exception of exiting VBV from the front gate (the Lincoln took the rear gate).	From 03:16-03:35, SS drives the Nissan along generally the same route to Old Hickory Tree Rd. The Nissan is not caught on surveillance footage from 03:35-04:09, and if SS was returning to the site where MS's body was later found (approximately 15 minutes each way), this would leave about 4 minutes unaccounted for.	64 page doc dump
03:35:39	Vehicle matching the white Nissan visible at: 2030 Old Hickory Rd, St. Cloud	64 page doc dump
04:09 to 04:30	The Nissan returns on the same route west on US-192 that the Lincoln MKZ had followed 2024-02-26, with the exception of entering VBV from the front gate (the Lincoln took the rear gate).	At 04:09-04:30, SS drives the same route back in the Nissan, and returns through the front gate of VBV.	64 page doc dump
04:09:45	Vehicle matching the white Nissan visible at: Old Hickory Tree Rd and 13th St	64 page doc dump
04:30:07	White Nissan returns through the front gate of [redacted-VBV] and continues north past the intersection (in the complex) of San Sebastian and San Vital	64 page doc dump

My callouts:

• He changed his shirt (red to blue) between the time he was supposed to have been dropping MS off at school and when he goes to the dumpster at 10:54. This would have included the time he moved her body from the front seat to the trunk. It is possible he got something on him, or maybe he got sweaty, or maybe he just felt gross.
  • In an interview with Det. Tagler that occurs on Feb 28th, SS is wearing a blue shirt and says he doesn't believe he'd changed since "the previous morning". Det. Tagler notes that "in videos from earlier in the day" he was wearing a red shirt. The report indicates this interview may have taken place before 01:00, meaning "the previous morning" would be the morning of Feb 26th. I interpret this as him implying he didn't change clothes (from the red shirt) on the day MS went missing.
• Google Maps indicates that the location MS's body was found at is about 15 minutes drive from the start of Old Hickory Rd off of US-192. In my experience, Google Maps usually estimates based off the time it actually takes people to drive, and not posted speed limits. It's possible that SS was hauling *advertiser censored* (heck, maybe that's how he got the flat), especially at 3am, but I also think if I had a dead body in my vehicle, I wouldn't want to risk getting pulled over.
  • That leaves 25 minutes unaccounted for on the first trip to Old Hickory Rd, and 4 on the second. Maybe with driving fast, he could have had as much as 35/14 minutes?
  • 35 minutes to change a tire, get spotted changing that tire but also move a dead body and not get spotted moving that dead body...it sounds quite fast to me. I recall SS even saying it had been a long time since he'd changed a flat, so it took him a while and he made dumb mistakes.
• The new info also tells us about more dumpster visits than I think we knew about. I'm counting 5. Notably, he looks to have thrown the tire tread of his flat out immediately before driving up toward grandma's office to go meet with the rest of the family
  • I think I didn't process before that this means that JS (or whoever) would have called him and told him he needs to come help just 35 minutes after school got out. That makes sense with 16:43 as a listed reported time that MS went missing. Did we ever find out the time of the 911 calls?
  • I'm also just realizing that if the tire was totally blown out like that, there may have been physical pieces or other indications of where that was on Old Hickory Rd

 

[Gemmie]

So much to recoil at in those emails.

He's on trial for CSA and murder abd he requests a book titled Eaters of the Dead?

TBF he requested several books of Michael Crichton's.

 

[FromGermany1]

I must know, where the spare tire is seen in the car, when/because I'm thinking, the tire would be in the trunk and couldn't be seen.
First there is no spare tire, then sometime it is seen in his car. Before the tire appears, SS seems to have been at the rental storage. Did he get the spare tire from there, before he even had a flat tire?? 11:31-11:43 possible storage. 14:11:30 first time spare tire visible.

Can it be, for a reason SS brought his phone back to the home, when he returned from the first drive to school? After that it seems, the phone was at home for some time, and SS was driving around from point to point acc. surveillance. 8:39-8:48

 

[photographer4]

Okay I tried to combine all we now know, based on evidence, of SS's movement on the "day of" MS's disappearance. This starts in the morning of Feb 26 and moves late into the night and into the early morning hours of Feb 27. This is already very long, so I did cut out some of the point by point driving bits when it doesn't appear that there were any stops or unexplained movements. Event is a factual representation of what is in the two doc dumps from the State Attorney. Narration is my summary and interpretation of those facts, as well as some of what SS's story was (read: MOO).

Edit: Looks like the format got a little wonky upon posting, but I'm guessing you can all interpret it well enough

Time	Event	Narration	Link
07:35	Lincoln MKZ IYLL82 visible at Venetian Bay Villages (VBV). A man wearing a red shirt and tan pants (presumed to be SS) exits the vehicle and throws something into the dumpster.	At 07:35, SS pulls up to the dumpster in VBV and throws something in the dumpster. He is wearing a red shirt and tan pants, and MS is visible, seemingly dead, in the passenger seat of the Lincoln MKZ.	64 page doc dump
07:35	Venetian Bay Villages trash compactor Surveillance footage shows SS discarding something in the apartment complex trash compactor while a presumably-MS is visible in the passenger seat of the Lincoln MKZ.	896 page doc dump
07:40	Lincoln MKZ IYLL82 leaves through the east gate of VBV.	At 07:40, SS drives the Lincoln MKZ through the east/rear gate of VBV to support the ruse of taking MS to school.	64 page doc dump
Prior to 7:45	A roommate who always leaves by 07:45 did not see MS leave by the time she left. Implies she did not see MS at all that morning.	896 page doc dump
07:50	Venetian Bay Villages Surveillance footage shows Lincoln MKZ leaving the through the rear gate with presumably-SS driving and presumably-MS (likely deceased) in the passenger seat.	896 page doc dump
Around 08:00 OR "7:00 or 8:00"	Venetian Bay Villages JS said she heard people in the kitchen and figured it was MS.	896 page doc dump
Around "08:00 or 08:15" OR "07:00 or 8:00"	Venetian Bay Villages JS woke up and said SS came in to put a leash on the dog and fell back asleep shortly after.	896 page doc dump
08:10	Hunter's Creek Middle School A license plate reader captured SS's Lincoln MKZ driving away from the school.	At 8:10, the Lincoln MKZ drives away from the school. According to SS's story, this would be to go back to VBV to get his gate clicker. Despite being at the school and not yet having dropped MS off yet, he says he went back home with her because they had so much time. He says he was asleep in the car.	896 page doc dump
08:11	Westbound on John Young Pkwy and Thacker	896 page doc dump
08:19	Venetian Bay Villages Surveillance footage shows Lincoln MKZ entering through the front gate with presumably-SS driving and presumably-MS (likely deceased) in the passenger seat.	At 08:19, SS arrives at VBV in the Lincoln MKZ with MS visible in the passenger seat. He enters through the front gate, which supports his claim of not having his gate clicker.	896 page doc dump
08:31	Venetian Bay Villages Surveillance footage shows Lincoln MKZ leaving through the rear gate with presumably-SS driving and presumably-MS (likely deceased) in the passenger seat.	At 08:31, the Lincoln MKZ exits VBV through the rear gate. MS is presumed to still be in the passenger seat. Under SS's story, MS is asleep in the car and they are returning to school.	896 page doc dump
08:39	Eastbound at Osceola Pkwy and Thacker	From 08:39 to 08:48, SS drives to and is in the area of Hunters Creek Middle School, where SS alleges he dropped MS off. Detectives challenge SS's description, and they both give a convoluted description of what his car was doing and seen doing. SS continues north and northwest and eventually is seen driving around Aquatica, before driving south again. Meanwhile his phone pings at VBV.	896 page doc dump
08:31	Northbound on John Young Pkwy and Thacker	896 page doc dump
08:48	Northbound John Young Pkwy and Town Center Blvd	896 page doc dump
08:58	Westbound Central Florida Pkwy and John Young Pkwy	896 page doc dump
09:01	Northbound on International Dr and Central Florida Pkwy	896 page doc dump
09:02	Northbound on International Dr and Aquatica (Rear entrance)	896 page doc dump
09:02	Northbound on International Dr and Sea Harbor Dr	896 page doc dump
09:03	Southbound on International Dr and Sea Harbor Dr	896 page doc dump
09:04	Southbound on International Dr and Aquatica (Rear entrance)	896 page doc dump
09:05	Eastbound on Central Florida Pkwy and International Dr	896 page doc dump
09:13	Near Venetian Bay Villages Phone presumed to belong to SS pings	896 page doc dump
Between 09:00 and 10:00	Witness WC observes man he believes is SS pulled over with a flat tire.	896 page doc dump
09:16	5051 Gateway Avenue, Orlando Surveillance footage from an Exxon gas station shows a silver sedan traveling eastbound.	896 page doc dump
09:25	Northbound Central Florida Pkwy and John Young Pkwy	896 page doc dump
09:35	2405 Commerce Park Dr, Orlando (near Holiday Inn Club Vacations) What is this symbol?	896 page doc dump
09:41	2405 Commerce Park Dr, Orlando (near Holiday Inn Club Vacations) What is this symbol?	896 page doc dump
09:40-09:44	Holiday Inn Club Vacations parking structure Surveillance footage shows a Lincoln MKZ pulling into the structure, then presumably-SS moving a limp body from the front passenger seat to the trunk before leaving.	SS continues driving, and at 09:40 pulls into a parking structure at Holiday Inn Club Vacations. He is shown moving a limp body, MS, from the passenger seat, and putting it into the truck. He leaves 5 minutes later and heads back to VBV. SS claims after dropping MS off that he went to the vape shop, but has an inconsistent story, none of which is supported by evidence. It appears he may have spent the last hour, since driving by Hunters Creek Middle School, trying to find somewhere to move MS's body, or form some other plan for next steps.	896 page doc dump
09:44 to 10:14	Lincoln MKZ is seen driving south and then west, back to VBV	896 page doc dump
10:14	Lincoln MKZ enters through the east gate of VBV, driven by a man who appears to be the same as the man at the dumpster at 07:35.	At 10:14, SS arrives back at VBV with MS now in the trunk of the Lincoln. He then calls JS and allegedly describes his morning dropping MS off to her, telling her he had forgotten his phone at home.	64 page doc dump
10:18	Venetian Bay Villages JS says SS called her at this point to report on his morning. He had forgotten his phone at home, and had just returned home from errands.	896 page doc dump
10:16-10:44	Near Venetian Bay Villages Phone presumed to belong to SS pings	896 page doc dump
10:46	Near Venetian Bay Villages Phone presumed to belong to SS pings	896 page doc dump
10:47-11:03	Near Venetian Bay Villages Phone presumed to belong to SS pings	896 page doc dump
10:54	Lincoln MKZ IYLL82 visible at VBV. A man wearing a blue shirt exits the vehicle and throws something in the dumpster. This appears to be the same man as at 07:35.	At 10:54, SS, now wearing a blue shirt, exits his Lincoln MKZ and throws something into the dumpster in VBV. He then exits VBV through the main gate and drives toward eSmokerOnline Vape Shop, this time bringing his phone. It takes him about 20 minutes to get there and he is there roughly 11:20-11:25. After leaving, he drives further north to an unknown location (possibly a self storage) and is there approximately 11:31-11:43 before heading back south to return through the rear gate of VBV at 11:56.	64 page doc dump
11:03	Lincoln MKZ visible at VBV passing through an intersection within the complex (San Sebastian and San Vital, the west side of the complex), then exits through the main gate.	64 page doc dump
11:03	Moving east of Venetian Bay Villages Phone presumed to belong to SS begins pinging on towers east of previous pings	896 page doc dump
11:04	Moving north Phone presumed to belong to SS begins pinging towers north of previous pings	896 page doc dump
Around 11:00 or 11:15	Venetian Bay Villages JS arrives home from her appointment and says SS was home. (It's not entirely clear if she means he was home already or just generally this period of time.)	896 page doc dump
11:16	S John Young Pkwy and Hunter’s Creek Blvd Phone presumed to belong to SS pings repeatedly	896 page doc dump
11:20-11:25	eSmokerOnline Vape Shop Phone presumed to belong to SS pings repeatedly near this shop	896 page doc dump
No time given	eSmokerOnline Vape Shop Surveillance footage shows presumably-SS in a blue shirt purchasing items and leaving shortly after.	896 page doc dump
11:26	Phone presumed to belong to SS appears to start moving	896 page doc dump
11:29-11:31	Phone presumed to belong to SS begins pinging towers north of previous pings	896 page doc dump
11:31-11:43	North of Central Florida Pkwy on S John Young Pkwy Phone presumed to belong to SS repeatedly pings in the same location. There is no official information or speculation on this are, but there is a self storage here.	896 page doc dump
11:44-11:51	Phone presumed to belong to SS beging pinging on towers south of previous pings	896 page doc dump
11:56	Lincoln MKZ enters through the rear gate of VBV with a driver consistent with the driver (presumably-SS) seen in other VBV surveillance footage.	64 page doc dump
11:57-12:47	Near Venetian Bay Villages Phone presumed to belong to SS pings	896 page doc dump
12:44	Lincoln MKZ leaves through the rear gate of the complex.	After hanging out with JS at the house for an hour, SS leaves to run additional errands at 12:44, leaving his phone at home. He claims to have gone to multiple Targets and a comic store before getting a flat tire and pulling over into a plaza on US-192. Evidence shows he actually drove east on US-192 and then south on Old Hickory Tree Rd 12:49-13:16.	64 page doc dump
12:49 to 13:17	Vehicle matching the Lincoln MKZ is visible on traffic cameras and from license plate readers moving east on Vine St, E Irlo Bronson Memorial Hwy, and 13th St (US-192) before moving south on Old Hickory Tree Rd	64 page doc dump
12:49-13:10	Continued eastbound movements on US-192	896 page doc dump
12:49-14:39	Near Venetian Bay Villages Phone presumed to belong to SS pings repeatedly at home while his vehicle is sighted moving to Old Hickory Tree Rd and back	896 page doc dump
13:16:58	A vehicle of similar style to the Lincoln MKZ passed Creative Inspirations on 2030 Old Hickory Tree Dr just south of 13th St	64 page doc dump
Approximately 13:12	Southbound past Hickory Tree Elementary School Surveillance footage shows SS’s Lincoln MKZ traveling south toward Nolte Rd. past Hickory Tree Elementary School on 2355 Old Hickory Tree Rd., Saint Cloud.	896 page doc dump
13:16	Southbound on Old Hickory Tree Rd and Creative Inspiration Gate	896 page doc dump
About 13:20	28.191031, -81.202160 Witness TC observes a silver sedan pulled over on Hickory Tree Road	From 13:16 to 13:56, there is no known footage of the Lincoln MKZ. A witness recports seeing a silver sedan pulled over on Hickory Tree Rd at about 13:20, and the location they identify is close to wear MS's body is eventually found. MS's body was found approximately 15 minutes away from the last sighting of the Lincoln MKZ and 6 minutes from the next sighting. If this was the time that SS removed MS's body from his trunk, he would have had approximately 25 minutes to both change his flat tire and dispose of the body.	896 page doc dump
Between 13:56 and 14:05	4171-3985 Hickory Tree Rd Footage taken from 4085 Malawi Trl, Saint Cloud, shows a match on the suspect vehicle traveling north on Hickory Tree Road	At 13:56, the Lincoln MKZ is seen in a reverse of the route taken to that location, headed west back toward VBV. A spare tire is visible on the rear driver's side of the vehicle. At 14:43, SS returns through the rear gate of VBV. At this point, JS has already left to pick up MS without SS.	896 page doc dump
14:11 to 14:43	Vehicle matching the Lincoln MKZ is visible on traffic cameras and from license plate readers moving west on 13th St, E Irlo Bronson Memorial Hwy, and W Vine St (US-192), returning on the same route it took east, before entering VBV.	64 page doc dump
14:17	Northbound past Hickory Tree Elementary School Surveillance footage shows SS’s Lincoln MKZ traveling north toward I-192 past Hickory Tree Elementary School on 2355 Old Hickory Tree Rd., Saint Cloud.	896 page doc dump
14:11:30	A vehicle of similar style to the Lincoln MKZ turned northbound onto Old Hickory Tree Dr and west onto 13th St "in an apparent return to path". A spare tire was visible on the rear driver's side, and had not been before.	64 page doc dump
14:12-43	Continued westbound movements on US-192 and then on the route to Venetian Bay Villages	896 page doc dump
14:30	JS said she usually leaves for school pick up by this time, and left without SS because he was not yet home.	896 page doc dump
14:43:33	Lincoln MKZ returns through the rear gate of VBV.	64 page doc dump
Between 14:50 and 15:15	Witness WC observes man he believes is SS still pulled over with a flat tire and with red headed man assisting.	896 page doc dump
14:52	Near Venetian Bay Villages Phone presumed to belong to SS pings	896 page doc dump
14:59-15:24	Near Venetian Bay Villages Phone presumed to belong to SS pings	896 page doc dump
15:24	Lincoln MKZ visible at the VBV. Presumably-SS throws something in the dumpster and leaves immediately.	SS is seen throwing items into the dumpster again at 15:24, 15:28, and 16:36. After the last trip to the dumpster, SS drives north 16:38-16:53, presumably to join JS to look for MS.	64 page doc dump
15:25-16:38	Near Venetian Bay Villages Phone presumed to belong to SS pings at the home and occasionally at a few other towers just north and east	896 page doc dump
15:28	Presumably-SS returns to the dumpster and throws more items away. It is unclear from the report if the Lincoln MKZ is visible, or if presumably-SS may have walked up.	64 page doc dump
16:35	Venetian Bay Villages trash compactor Surveillance footage shows SS (now wearing a blue shirt) removing a tire/tire tread from a Lincoln MKZ and discarding it in the apartment complex trash compactor.	896 page doc dump
16:36	Presumably-SS returns to the dumpster and throws more items away. It is unclear from the report if the Lincoln MKZ is visible, or if presumably-SS may have walked up.	64 page doc dump
16:38-16:53	Phone presumed to belong to SS pings at towers indicating he was driving to join JS and the rest of the family at grandma's office to look for MS.	896 page doc dump
03:16:15	A white Nissan ([redacted-JS]'s car) exits VBV through the main gate.	At 03:16, early on 02/27 (this could be considered the same "night" that MS was reported missing) a white Nissan belonging to JS exits VBV through the main gate. Despite similar reports for the Lincoln MKZ, reports do not currently indicate if a driver was seen in this car. It is presumed SS was driving the car, and JS told investigators that SS took her car in the middle of the night to look for MS.	64 page doc dump
03:16 to 03:35	The Nissan takes the same route east on US-192 that the Lincoln MKZ had followed 2024-02-26, ending by 2030 Old Hickory Tree Rd, with the exception of exiting VBV from the front gate (the Lincoln took the rear gate).	From 03:16-03:35, SS drives the Nissan along generally the same route to Old Hickory Tree Rd. The Nissan is not caught on surveillance footage from 03:35-04:09, and if SS was returning to the site where MS's body was later found (approximately 15 minutes each way), this would leave about 4 minutes unaccounted for.	64 page doc dump
03:35:39	Vehicle matching the white Nissan visible at: 2030 Old Hickory Rd, St. Cloud	64 page doc dump
04:09 to 04:30	The Nissan returns on the same route west on US-192 that the Lincoln MKZ had followed 2024-02-26, with the exception of entering VBV from the front gate (the Lincoln took the rear gate).	At 04:09-04:30, SS drives the same route back in the Nissan, and returns through the front gate of VBV.	64 page doc dump
04:09:45	Vehicle matching the white Nissan visible at: Old Hickory Tree Rd and 13th St	64 page doc dump
04:30:07	White Nissan returns through the front gate of [redacted-VBV] and continues north past the intersection (in the complex) of San Sebastian and San Vital	64 page doc dump

My callouts:

• He changed his shirt (red to blue) between the time he was supposed to have been dropping MS off at school and when he goes to the dumpster at 10:54. This would have included the time he moved her body from the front seat to the trunk. It is possible he got something on him, or maybe he got sweaty, or maybe he just felt gross.
  • In an interview with Det. Tagler that occurs on Feb 28th, SS is wearing a blue shirt and says he doesn't believe he'd changed since "the previous morning". Det. Tagler notes that "in videos from earlier in the day" he was wearing a red shirt. The report indicates this interview may have taken place before 01:00, meaning "the previous morning" would be the morning of Feb 26th. I interpret this as him implying he didn't change clothes (from the red shirt) on the day MS went missing.
• Google Maps indicates that the location MS's body was found at is about 15 minutes drive from the start of Old Hickory Rd off of US-192. In my experience, Google Maps usually estimates based off the time it actually takes people to drive, and not posted speed limits. It's possible that SS was hauling *advertiser censored* (heck, maybe that's how he got the flat), especially at 3am, but I also think if I had a dead body in my vehicle, I wouldn't want to risk getting pulled over.
  • That leaves 25 minutes unaccounted for on the first trip to Old Hickory Rd, and 4 on the second. Maybe with driving fast, he could have had as much as 35/14 minutes?
  • 35 minutes to change a tire, get spotted changing that tire but also move a dead body and not get spotted moving that dead body...it sounds quite fast to me. I recall SS even saying it had been a long time since he'd changed a flat, so it took him a while and he made dumb mistakes.
• The new info also tells us about more dumpster visits than I think we knew about. I'm counting 5. Notably, he looks to have thrown the tire tread of his flat out immediately before driving up toward grandma's office to go meet with the rest of the family
  • I think I didn't process before that this means that JS (or whoever) would have called him and told him he needs to come help just 35 minutes after school got out. That makes sense with 16:43 as a listed reported time that MS went missing. Did we ever find out the time of the 911 calls?
  • I'm also just realizing that if the tire was totally blown out like that, there may have been physical pieces or other indications of where that was on Old Hickory Rd

You deserve an award!! Ty.

 

[Twick]

So much to recoil at in those emails.

He's on trial for CSA and murder abd he requests a book titled Eaters of the Dead?

Signs his emails "hugs and kisses"... wants a book on Origami so he has something to do with his hands. Putrid considering the crimes he committed with his hands and his mouth. Revolting.


Again, he's charged with horrifying crimes and he makes demands on his parents who can't "jump on it" fast enough. Either they're in denial about what he's done or they somehow believe he is innocent/was set up.
.
Or.... they don't care what he's done, they just want to be there for him, and feel compelled to placate him with every creature comfort available to them.

I would not provide him one cent.

JMO

Despite the odd title, “Eaters of the Dead” is just a Michael Crichton retelling of the Beowulf legend. It was made into a movie “The Thirteenth Warrior.”

 

[Gemmie]

I must know, where the spare tire is seen in the car, when/because I'm thinking, the tire would be in the trunk and couldn't be seen.
First there is no spare tire, then sometime it is seen in his car. Before the tire appears, SS seems to have been at the rental storage. Did he get the spare tire from there, before he even had a flat tire?? 11:31-11:43 possible storage. 14:11:30 first time spare tire visible.

Can it be, for a reason SS brought his phone back to the home, when he returned from the first drive to school? After that it seems, the phone was at home for some time, and SS was driving around from point to point acc. surveillance. 8:39-8:48

Most people keep their spare tire where the manufacturers put it. In the trunk in the spare tire hold. Because if you think about it.. what good would a spare tire be if it's in a rental storage place, if you got a flat tire a long ways away?? Your spare tire will only do you good if it's where your car is since that's where the flat occurs.

Obvs JMO.

 

[Verboten]

...Hard to know without knowing what Maddi normally did.
I dont think it was taken away from her. I also think it had to be somewhere for Jenn to even notice she didnt take it, how else would she know? Unless the Uber responsible routine police that reports every insignificant move he makes told her. Well, every move except the one where he killed her.
He's a pervert to begin with but the mind games he plays are equally sick

I don't think her phone & laptop were taken away. Not sure why everyone takes everything so literally from a bunch of liars. "How would [JS] know?" Maybe she just lied to attempt to indicate MS wasn't lured out by communication with the outside.

 

[Seattle1]

I must know, where the spare tire is seen in the car, when/because I'm thinking, the tire would be in the trunk and couldn't be seen.
First there is no spare tire, then sometime it is seen in his car. Before the tire appears, SS seems to have been at the rental storage. Did he get the spare tire from there, before he even had a flat tire?? 11:31-11:43 possible storage. 14:11:30 first time spare tire visible.

Can it be, for a reason SS brought his phone back to the home, when he returned from the first drive to school? After that it seems, the phone was at home for some time, and SS was driving around from point to point acc. surveillance. 8:39-8:48

Generally, the donut spare is stored beneath the carpet liner of the trunk as depicted in the link below.

https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/lincoln/mkz/2020/photos-exterior/trunk

IMO, it follows that SS had to remove MS's body from the trunk to get to the spare. I've long believed SS was unhappy with where he first deposited the body when he experienced the flat tire and returned later in JS vehicle to reposition MS body in the bamboo tree line.

 

[MollyDDD]

So much to recoil at in those emails.

He's on trial for CSA and murder abd he requests a book titled Eaters of the Dead?

Signs his emails "hugs and kisses"... wants a book on Origami so he has something to do with his hands. Putrid considering the crimes he committed with his hands and his mouth. Revolting.


Again, he's charged with horrifying crimes and he makes demands on his parents who can't "jump on it" fast enough. Either they're in denial about what he's done or they somehow believe he is innocent/was set up.
.
Or.... they don't care what he's done, they just want to be there for him, and feel compelled to placate him with every creature comfort available to them.

I would not provide him one cent.

JMO

And if it’s for the latter, it’s no wonder he’s like he is.

 

[MollyDDD]

Okay I tried to combine all we now know, based on evidence, of SS's movement on the "day of" MS's disappearance. This starts in the morning of Feb 26 and moves late into the night and into the early morning hours of Feb 27. This is already very long, so I did cut out some of the point by point driving bits when it doesn't appear that there were any stops or unexplained movements. Event is a factual representation of what is in the two doc dumps from the State Attorney. Narration is my summary and interpretation of those facts, as well as some of what SS's story was (read: MOO).

Edit: Looks like the format got a little wonky upon posting, but I'm guessing you can all interpret it well enough

Time	Event	Narration	Link
07:35	Lincoln MKZ IYLL82 visible at Venetian Bay Villages (VBV). A man wearing a red shirt and tan pants (presumed to be SS) exits the vehicle and throws something into the dumpster.	At 07:35, SS pulls up to the dumpster in VBV and throws something in the dumpster. He is wearing a red shirt and tan pants, and MS is visible, seemingly dead, in the passenger seat of the Lincoln MKZ.	64 page doc dump
07:35	Venetian Bay Villages trash compactor Surveillance footage shows SS discarding something in the apartment complex trash compactor while a presumably-MS is visible in the passenger seat of the Lincoln MKZ.	896 page doc dump
07:40	Lincoln MKZ IYLL82 leaves through the east gate of VBV.	At 07:40, SS drives the Lincoln MKZ through the east/rear gate of VBV to support the ruse of taking MS to school.	64 page doc dump
Prior to 7:45	A roommate who always leaves by 07:45 did not see MS leave by the time she left. Implies she did not see MS at all that morning.	896 page doc dump
07:50	Venetian Bay Villages Surveillance footage shows Lincoln MKZ leaving the through the rear gate with presumably-SS driving and presumably-MS (likely deceased) in the passenger seat.	896 page doc dump
Around 08:00 OR "7:00 or 8:00"	Venetian Bay Villages JS said she heard people in the kitchen and figured it was MS.	896 page doc dump
Around "08:00 or 08:15" OR "07:00 or 8:00"	Venetian Bay Villages JS woke up and said SS came in to put a leash on the dog and fell back asleep shortly after.	896 page doc dump
08:10	Hunter's Creek Middle School A license plate reader captured SS's Lincoln MKZ driving away from the school.	At 8:10, the Lincoln MKZ drives away from the school. According to SS's story, this would be to go back to VBV to get his gate clicker. Despite being at the school and not yet having dropped MS off yet, he says he went back home with her because they had so much time. He says he was asleep in the car.	896 page doc dump
08:11	Westbound on John Young Pkwy and Thacker	896 page doc dump
08:19	Venetian Bay Villages Surveillance footage shows Lincoln MKZ entering through the front gate with presumably-SS driving and presumably-MS (likely deceased) in the passenger seat.	At 08:19, SS arrives at VBV in the Lincoln MKZ with MS visible in the passenger seat. He enters through the front gate, which supports his claim of not having his gate clicker.	896 page doc dump
08:31	Venetian Bay Villages Surveillance footage shows Lincoln MKZ leaving through the rear gate with presumably-SS driving and presumably-MS (likely deceased) in the passenger seat.	At 08:31, the Lincoln MKZ exits VBV through the rear gate. MS is presumed to still be in the passenger seat. Under SS's story, MS is asleep in the car and they are returning to school.	896 page doc dump
08:39	Eastbound at Osceola Pkwy and Thacker	From 08:39 to 08:48, SS drives to and is in the area of Hunters Creek Middle School, where SS alleges he dropped MS off. Detectives challenge SS's description, and they both give a convoluted description of what his car was doing and seen doing. SS continues north and northwest and eventually is seen driving around Aquatica, before driving south again. Meanwhile his phone pings at VBV.	896 page doc dump
08:31	Northbound on John Young Pkwy and Thacker	896 page doc dump
08:48	Northbound John Young Pkwy and Town Center Blvd	896 page doc dump
08:58	Westbound Central Florida Pkwy and John Young Pkwy	896 page doc dump
09:01	Northbound on International Dr and Central Florida Pkwy	896 page doc dump
09:02	Northbound on International Dr and Aquatica (Rear entrance)	896 page doc dump
09:02	Northbound on International Dr and Sea Harbor Dr	896 page doc dump
09:03	Southbound on International Dr and Sea Harbor Dr	896 page doc dump
09:04	Southbound on International Dr and Aquatica (Rear entrance)	896 page doc dump
09:05	Eastbound on Central Florida Pkwy and International Dr	896 page doc dump
09:13	Near Venetian Bay Villages Phone presumed to belong to SS pings	896 page doc dump
Between 09:00 and 10:00	Witness WC observes man he believes is SS pulled over with a flat tire.	896 page doc dump
09:16	5051 Gateway Avenue, Orlando Surveillance footage from an Exxon gas station shows a silver sedan traveling eastbound.	896 page doc dump
09:25	Northbound Central Florida Pkwy and John Young Pkwy	896 page doc dump
09:35	2405 Commerce Park Dr, Orlando (near Holiday Inn Club Vacations) What is this symbol?	896 page doc dump
09:41	2405 Commerce Park Dr, Orlando (near Holiday Inn Club Vacations) What is this symbol?	896 page doc dump
09:40-09:44	Holiday Inn Club Vacations parking structure Surveillance footage shows a Lincoln MKZ pulling into the structure, then presumably-SS moving a limp body from the front passenger seat to the trunk before leaving.	SS continues driving, and at 09:40 pulls into a parking structure at Holiday Inn Club Vacations. He is shown moving a limp body, MS, from the passenger seat, and putting it into the truck. He leaves 5 minutes later and heads back to VBV. SS claims after dropping MS off that he went to the vape shop, but has an inconsistent story, none of which is supported by evidence. It appears he may have spent the last hour, since driving by Hunters Creek Middle School, trying to find somewhere to move MS's body, or form some other plan for next steps.	896 page doc dump
09:44 to 10:14	Lincoln MKZ is seen driving south and then west, back to VBV	896 page doc dump
10:14	Lincoln MKZ enters through the east gate of VBV, driven by a man who appears to be the same as the man at the dumpster at 07:35.	At 10:14, SS arrives back at VBV with MS now in the trunk of the Lincoln. He then calls JS and allegedly describes his morning dropping MS off to her, telling her he had forgotten his phone at home.	64 page doc dump
10:18	Venetian Bay Villages JS says SS called her at this point to report on his morning. He had forgotten his phone at home, and had just returned home from errands.	896 page doc dump
10:16-10:44	Near Venetian Bay Villages Phone presumed to belong to SS pings	896 page doc dump
10:46	Near Venetian Bay Villages Phone presumed to belong to SS pings	896 page doc dump
10:47-11:03	Near Venetian Bay Villages Phone presumed to belong to SS pings	896 page doc dump
10:54	Lincoln MKZ IYLL82 visible at VBV. A man wearing a blue shirt exits the vehicle and throws something in the dumpster. This appears to be the same man as at 07:35.	At 10:54, SS, now wearing a blue shirt, exits his Lincoln MKZ and throws something into the dumpster in VBV. He then exits VBV through the main gate and drives toward eSmokerOnline Vape Shop, this time bringing his phone. It takes him about 20 minutes to get there and he is there roughly 11:20-11:25. After leaving, he drives further north to an unknown location (possibly a self storage) and is there approximately 11:31-11:43 before heading back south to return through the rear gate of VBV at 11:56.	64 page doc dump
11:03	Lincoln MKZ visible at VBV passing through an intersection within the complex (San Sebastian and San Vital, the west side of the complex), then exits through the main gate.	64 page doc dump
11:03	Moving east of Venetian Bay Villages Phone presumed to belong to SS begins pinging on towers east of previous pings	896 page doc dump
11:04	Moving north Phone presumed to belong to SS begins pinging towers north of previous pings	896 page doc dump
Around 11:00 or 11:15	Venetian Bay Villages JS arrives home from her appointment and says SS was home. (It's not entirely clear if she means he was home already or just generally this period of time.)	896 page doc dump
11:16	S John Young Pkwy and Hunter’s Creek Blvd Phone presumed to belong to SS pings repeatedly	896 page doc dump
11:20-11:25	eSmokerOnline Vape Shop Phone presumed to belong to SS pings repeatedly near this shop	896 page doc dump
No time given	eSmokerOnline Vape Shop Surveillance footage shows presumably-SS in a blue shirt purchasing items and leaving shortly after.	896 page doc dump
11:26	Phone presumed to belong to SS appears to start moving	896 page doc dump
11:29-11:31	Phone presumed to belong to SS begins pinging towers north of previous pings	896 page doc dump
11:31-11:43	North of Central Florida Pkwy on S John Young Pkwy Phone presumed to belong to SS repeatedly pings in the same location. There is no official information or speculation on this are, but there is a self storage here.	896 page doc dump
11:44-11:51	Phone presumed to belong to SS beging pinging on towers south of previous pings	896 page doc dump
11:56	Lincoln MKZ enters through the rear gate of VBV with a driver consistent with the driver (presumably-SS) seen in other VBV surveillance footage.	64 page doc dump
11:57-12:47	Near Venetian Bay Villages Phone presumed to belong to SS pings	896 page doc dump
12:44	Lincoln MKZ leaves through the rear gate of the complex.	After hanging out with JS at the house for an hour, SS leaves to run additional errands at 12:44, leaving his phone at home. He claims to have gone to multiple Targets and a comic store before getting a flat tire and pulling over into a plaza on US-192. Evidence shows he actually drove east on US-192 and then south on Old Hickory Tree Rd 12:49-13:16.	64 page doc dump
12:49 to 13:17	Vehicle matching the Lincoln MKZ is visible on traffic cameras and from license plate readers moving east on Vine St, E Irlo Bronson Memorial Hwy, and 13th St (US-192) before moving south on Old Hickory Tree Rd	64 page doc dump
12:49-13:10	Continued eastbound movements on US-192	896 page doc dump
12:49-14:39	Near Venetian Bay Villages Phone presumed to belong to SS pings repeatedly at home while his vehicle is sighted moving to Old Hickory Tree Rd and back	896 page doc dump
13:16:58	A vehicle of similar style to the Lincoln MKZ passed Creative Inspirations on 2030 Old Hickory Tree Dr just south of 13th St	64 page doc dump
Approximately 13:12	Southbound past Hickory Tree Elementary School Surveillance footage shows SS’s Lincoln MKZ traveling south toward Nolte Rd. past Hickory Tree Elementary School on 2355 Old Hickory Tree Rd., Saint Cloud.	896 page doc dump
13:16	Southbound on Old Hickory Tree Rd and Creative Inspiration Gate	896 page doc dump
About 13:20	28.191031, -81.202160 Witness TC observes a silver sedan pulled over on Hickory Tree Road	From 13:16 to 13:56, there is no known footage of the Lincoln MKZ. A witness recports seeing a silver sedan pulled over on Hickory Tree Rd at about 13:20, and the location they identify is close to wear MS's body is eventually found. MS's body was found approximately 15 minutes away from the last sighting of the Lincoln MKZ and 6 minutes from the next sighting. If this was the time that SS removed MS's body from his trunk, he would have had approximately 25 minutes to both change his flat tire and dispose of the body.	896 page doc dump
Between 13:56 and 14:05	4171-3985 Hickory Tree Rd Footage taken from 4085 Malawi Trl, Saint Cloud, shows a match on the suspect vehicle traveling north on Hickory Tree Road	At 13:56, the Lincoln MKZ is seen in a reverse of the route taken to that location, headed west back toward VBV. A spare tire is visible on the rear driver's side of the vehicle. At 14:43, SS returns through the rear gate of VBV. At this point, JS has already left to pick up MS without SS.	896 page doc dump
14:11 to 14:43	Vehicle matching the Lincoln MKZ is visible on traffic cameras and from license plate readers moving west on 13th St, E Irlo Bronson Memorial Hwy, and W Vine St (US-192), returning on the same route it took east, before entering VBV.	64 page doc dump
14:17	Northbound past Hickory Tree Elementary School Surveillance footage shows SS’s Lincoln MKZ traveling north toward I-192 past Hickory Tree Elementary School on 2355 Old Hickory Tree Rd., Saint Cloud.	896 page doc dump
14:11:30	A vehicle of similar style to the Lincoln MKZ turned northbound onto Old Hickory Tree Dr and west onto 13th St "in an apparent return to path". A spare tire was visible on the rear driver's side, and had not been before.	64 page doc dump
14:12-43	Continued westbound movements on US-192 and then on the route to Venetian Bay Villages	896 page doc dump
14:30	JS said she usually leaves for school pick up by this time, and left without SS because he was not yet home.	896 page doc dump
14:43:33	Lincoln MKZ returns through the rear gate of VBV.	64 page doc dump
Between 14:50 and 15:15	Witness WC observes man he believes is SS still pulled over with a flat tire and with red headed man assisting.	896 page doc dump
14:52	Near Venetian Bay Villages Phone presumed to belong to SS pings	896 page doc dump
14:59-15:24	Near Venetian Bay Villages Phone presumed to belong to SS pings	896 page doc dump
15:24	Lincoln MKZ visible at the VBV. Presumably-SS throws something in the dumpster and leaves immediately.	SS is seen throwing items into the dumpster again at 15:24, 15:28, and 16:36. After the last trip to the dumpster, SS drives north 16:38-16:53, presumably to join JS to look for MS.	64 page doc dump
15:25-16:38	Near Venetian Bay Villages Phone presumed to belong to SS pings at the home and occasionally at a few other towers just north and east	896 page doc dump
15:28	Presumably-SS returns to the dumpster and throws more items away. It is unclear from the report if the Lincoln MKZ is visible, or if presumably-SS may have walked up.	64 page doc dump
16:35	Venetian Bay Villages trash compactor Surveillance footage shows SS (now wearing a blue shirt) removing a tire/tire tread from a Lincoln MKZ and discarding it in the apartment complex trash compactor.	896 page doc dump
16:36	Presumably-SS returns to the dumpster and throws more items away. It is unclear from the report if the Lincoln MKZ is visible, or if presumably-SS may have walked up.	64 page doc dump
16:38-16:53	Phone presumed to belong to SS pings at towers indicating he was driving to join JS and the rest of the family at grandma's office to look for MS.	896 page doc dump
03:16:15	A white Nissan ([redacted-JS]'s car) exits VBV through the main gate.	At 03:16, early on 02/27 (this could be considered the same "night" that MS was reported missing) a white Nissan belonging to JS exits VBV through the main gate. Despite similar reports for the Lincoln MKZ, reports do not currently indicate if a driver was seen in this car. It is presumed SS was driving the car, and JS told investigators that SS took her car in the middle of the night to look for MS.	64 page doc dump
03:16 to 03:35	The Nissan takes the same route east on US-192 that the Lincoln MKZ had followed 2024-02-26, ending by 2030 Old Hickory Tree Rd, with the exception of exiting VBV from the front gate (the Lincoln took the rear gate).	From 03:16-03:35, SS drives the Nissan along generally the same route to Old Hickory Tree Rd. The Nissan is not caught on surveillance footage from 03:35-04:09, and if SS was returning to the site where MS's body was later found (approximately 15 minutes each way), this would leave about 4 minutes unaccounted for.	64 page doc dump
03:35:39	Vehicle matching the white Nissan visible at: 2030 Old Hickory Rd, St. Cloud	64 page doc dump
04:09 to 04:30	The Nissan returns on the same route west on US-192 that the Lincoln MKZ had followed 2024-02-26, with the exception of entering VBV from the front gate (the Lincoln took the rear gate).	At 04:09-04:30, SS drives the same route back in the Nissan, and returns through the front gate of VBV.	64 page doc dump
04:09:45	Vehicle matching the white Nissan visible at: Old Hickory Tree Rd and 13th St	64 page doc dump
04:30:07	White Nissan returns through the front gate of [redacted-VBV] and continues north past the intersection (in the complex) of San Sebastian and San Vital	64 page doc dump

My callouts:

• He changed his shirt (red to blue) between the time he was supposed to have been dropping MS off at school and when he goes to the dumpster at 10:54. This would have included the time he moved her body from the front seat to the trunk. It is possible he got something on him, or maybe he got sweaty, or maybe he just felt gross.
  • In an interview with Det. Tagler that occurs on Feb 28th, SS is wearing a blue shirt and says he doesn't believe he'd changed since "the previous morning". Det. Tagler notes that "in videos from earlier in the day" he was wearing a red shirt. The report indicates this interview may have taken place before 01:00, meaning "the previous morning" would be the morning of Feb 26th. I interpret this as him implying he didn't change clothes (from the red shirt) on the day MS went missing.
• Google Maps indicates that the location MS's body was found at is about 15 minutes drive from the start of Old Hickory Rd off of US-192. In my experience, Google Maps usually estimates based off the time it actually takes people to drive, and not posted speed limits. It's possible that SS was hauling *advertiser censored* (heck, maybe that's how he got the flat), especially at 3am, but I also think if I had a dead body in my vehicle, I wouldn't want to risk getting pulled over.
  • That leaves 25 minutes unaccounted for on the first trip to Old Hickory Rd, and 4 on the second. Maybe with driving fast, he could have had as much as 35/14 minutes?
  • 35 minutes to change a tire, get spotted changing that tire but also move a dead body and not get spotted moving that dead body...it sounds quite fast to me. I recall SS even saying it had been a long time since he'd changed a flat, so it took him a while and he made dumb mistakes.
• The new info also tells us about more dumpster visits than I think we knew about. I'm counting 5. Notably, he looks to have thrown the tire tread of his flat out immediately before driving up toward grandma's office to go meet with the rest of the family
  • I think I didn't process before that this means that JS (or whoever) would have called him and told him he needs to come help just 35 minutes after school got out. That makes sense with 16:43 as a listed reported time that MS went missing. Did we ever find out the time of the 911 calls?
  • I'm also just realizing that if the tire was totally blown out like that, there may have been physical pieces or other indications of where that was on Old Hickory Rd

Excellent work, ‘ol Mackey! Thank you.

 

[Seattle1]

I don't think her phone & laptop were taken away. Not sure why everyone takes everything so literally from a bunch of liars. "How would [JS] know?" Maybe she just lied to attempt to indicate MS wasn't lured out by communication with the outside.

“There was no moment that evening from when she got home from the party that she had her phone, that she had the laptop. She went straight to getting ready and went to bed. So I know she didn’t have any conversations with anyone, she didn’t make plans with anyone. I didn’t see any of that.”

^^rsbm

I agree. If read in full context, JS was responding a reporter-- wanting to affirm MS did not communicate with anybody on Sunday to make plans to run away. (Not that JS knew this to be factual).

Ultimately, what we know as fact is that SS dumped MS backpack & laptop in the apartment dumpster on Monday morning, and intentionally left MS phone behind at home since the dead do not need a phone, and JS would have reason not to try and contact her daughter on Monday via her phone. JMO

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

^^rsbm

I agree. If read in full context, JS was responding a reporter-- wanting to affirm MS did not communicate with anybody on Sunday to make plans to run away. (Not that JS knew this to be factual).

Ultimately, what we know as fact is that SS dumped MS backpack & laptop in the apartment dumpster on Monday morning, and intentionally left MS phone behind at home since the dead do not need a phone, and JS would have reason not to try and contact her daughter on Monday via her phone. JMO

Interesting and good synopsis there Seattle! Wondering too if maybe SS retained the phone there, in the hope that if a call to it was placed it might not ping out there with MS location? Speculation…. and MOO

 

[Gemmie]

Ultimately, what we know as fact is that SS dumped MS backpack & laptop in the apartment dumpster on Monday morning, and intentionally left MS phone behind at home since the dead do not need a phone, and JS would have reason not to try and contact her daughter on Monday via her phone. JMO

Bolded by me for focus.

While it's true that the dead don't need a phone, it's my belief that SS's Plan A was to hide Maddie somewhere (likely not where she ended up), and HOPE that LE thought she was abducted. Per his 2/27 LE interview he was trying to get them to believe she was dropped off down the street from the school at the church (which we know isn't true). For his story to be more believable you'd think he'd make sure she had her phone. Although with all that said... he did throw her backpack, laptop and shoe away, and she'd need those too for Plan A to be more believable.

 

[Seattle1]

Bolded by me for focus.

While it's true that the dead don't need a phone, it's my belief that SS's Plan A was to hide Maddie somewhere (likely not where she ended up), and HOPE that LE thought she was abducted. Per his 2/27 LE interview he was trying to get them to believe she was dropped off down the street from the school at the church (which we know isn't true). For his story to be more believable you'd think he'd make sure she had her phone. Although with all that said... he did throw her backpack, laptop and shoe away, and she'd need those too for Plan A to be more believable.

Agree -- SS was motivated to delay the recovery of MS including her known location and leaving her phone behind was indeed self serving.

 

[FromGermany1]

Most people keep their spare tire where the manufacturers put it. In the trunk in the spare tire hold. Because if you think about it.. what good would a spare tire be if it's in a rental storage place, if you got a flat tire a long ways away?? Your spare tire will only do you good if it's where your car is since that's where the flat occurs.

Obvs JMO.

Of course it makes only sense, when the spare tire is available all the time while driving, but I don't understand, why "the tire was seen". How was it seen?? By whom, by what? It wouldn't be seen in the trunk at it's common place, not by surveillance and not by a person. What meant the description, the tire was seen and before was not seen? - I try to find out the time, when SS suddenly (it seems) had a spare tire available. And I try to find out, why and from where he might have gotten it, if it wasn't with him and his car before this exact point in time. - For me something is missing (or I'm understanding something wrong, maybe).

 

[Mack the Knife]

Of course it makes only sense, when the spare tire is available all the time while driving, but I don't understand, why "the tire was seen". How was it seen?? By whom, by what? It wouldn't be seen in the trunk at it's common place, not by surveillance and not by a person. What meant the description, the tire was seen and before was not seen? - I try to find out the time, when SS suddenly (it seems) had a spare tire available. And I try to find out, why and from where he might have gotten it, if it wasn't with him and his car before this exact point in time. - For me something is missing (or I'm understanding something wrong, maybe).

[BBM]
What are you referencing with the bolded quote? Is it my description that “A spare tire was visible on the rear driver's side, and had not been before.”?

If so, that just means (at least by my understanding of the documents) that the Lincoln MKZ pictured in the surveillance footage was driving on a spare tire, and that tire was the rear tire on the driver’s side.

The Lincoln MKZ was caught on surveillance footage and license plate readers driving east on US-192 and then south on Old Hickory Tree Rd. At this point it has four normal tires. From 13:16-13:56, the Lincoln MKZ’s movements are unknown. By all accounts (including SS’s), the Lincoln MKZ got a flat tire, and this is the time that evidence shows that SS changed the flat to his spare tire. After he changes the spare tire (and presumably disposes of the body in his trunk), he reverses the route he took to get there and is surveilled with a spare tire now on the Lincoln MKZ.

It might also be easier to read the Narration column of that timeline rather than reading it line by line.

 

[FromGermany1]

[BBM]
What are you referencing with the bolded quote? Is it my description that “A spare tire was visible on the rear driver's side, and had not been before.”?

If so, that just means (at least by my understanding of the documents) that the Lincoln MKZ pictured in the surveillance footage was driving on a spare tire, and that tire was the rear tire on the driver’s side.

The Lincoln MKZ was caught on surveillance footage and license plate readers driving east on US-192 and then south on Old Hickory Tree Rd. At this point it has four normal tires. From 13:16-13:56, the Lincoln MKZ’s movements are unknown. By all accounts (including SS’s), the Lincoln MKZ got a flat tire, and this is the time that evidence shows that SS changed the flat to his spare tire. After he changes the spare tire (and presumably disposes of the body in his trunk), he reverses the route he took to get there and is surveilled with a spare tire now on the Lincoln MKZ.

It might also be easier to read the Narration column of that timeline rather than reading it line by line.

Thank you so much! Now I'm understanding. I didn't get, that the spare tire was already changed against a flat tire!! And then the Lincoln was seen by surveillance with the spare tire. My mistake. Thanks again!!