Arizona girl, 2, left in car by father on 109-degree day and is found dead

[SMK777]

No accident

The media is full of warnings about heat waves and not leaving Any Living Thing inside a car in this weather. SAFETY WARNINGS

This is not an accident and he claims not to have received a notice the engine had shut off? Deflecting blame all over the place. Are they going to try to sue the car manufacturer, saying it was the car's fault no one checked on her for 3-4 hours in 106 degree heat?

This is NO Accident. It is negligent behaviour with an established very high risk of a fatal outcome. It's like throwing the kid into the rapids without a life jacket and saying it was the river's fault.

Understood. If the prosecutor and judge view it this way as well, then it’s likely that he will be charged and tried.

 

[Herat]

I wonder if there is a role for a Guardian Ad Litem for the remaining two children.

I just don't get the feeling that the family dynamics are dedicated to the safety home environment for the children and the parental dynamics are off in this situation.

As long as the father lives at home, he is around those children. What happens if they get a babysitter? Does he continue his Playstation life with resentment to all for what happened? I assume they can pay for childcare, although it is surely difficult to find and expensive. In September, I assume the 5 year old will be attending kindergarten and the 9 year old will be in the 4th grade. That only accounts for a part of the day / night and the mother's job as an anesthesiologist usually comes with dedicated in-hospital call for long shifts that do not fit a 9-5 lifestyle. Do her partner anesthesiologists have to have their schedules disrupted and take more call so she can have more time to supervise the childcare. When she is gone at 2am at the hospital, isn't Dad back doing childcare again?

Optimally, there would be some other family member like a gramma or grandpa or such to be the designated caregiver.

This is complicated and allowing Dad to stay in the home is only going to make it worse.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Optimally, there would be some other family member like a gramma or grandpa or such to be the designated caregiver

Optimal for whom? I don't mean that in a rude way, but it is just a mess.

Is a maternal grandparent supposed to drop everything to come take a major role in raising two young kids, and also have to live with the father while he awaits trial, instead of living their own life in their own home?

Or are one if his parents supposed to come take this on, and witness this tragic time first-hand day-and-night in their home?

It's really a lot to ask a grandparent, who also need to grieve.
I can't imagine the mother will be returning to work until this is concluded.

 

[airportwoman]

I wonder if there is a role for a Guardian Ad Litem for the remaining two children.

I just don't get the feeling that the family dynamics are dedicated to the safety home environment for the children and the parental dynamics are off in this situation.

As long as the father lives at home, he is around those children. What happens if they get a babysitter? Does he continue his Playstation life with resentment to all for what happened? I assume they can pay for childcare, although it is surely difficult to find and expensive. In September, I assume the 5 year old will be attending kindergarten and the 9 year old will be in the 4th grade. That only accounts for a part of the day / night and the mother's job as an anesthesiologist usually comes with dedicated in-hospital call for long shifts that do not fit a 9-5 lifestyle. Do her partner anesthesiologists have to have their schedules disrupted and take more call so she can have more time to supervise the childcare. When she is gone at 2am at the hospital, isn't Dad back doing childcare again?

Optimally, there would be some other family member like a gramma or grandpa or such to be the designated caregiver.

This is complicated and allowing Dad to stay in the home is only going to make it worse.

An anesthesiologist could afford a live-in nanny. I'm actually surprised they didn't have one anyway.

 

[Herat]

Optimal for whom? I don't mean that in a rude way, but it is just a mess.

Is a maternal grandparent supposed to drop everything to come take a major role in raising two young kids, and also have to live with the father while he awaits trial, instead of living their own life in their own home?

Or are one if his parents supposed to come take this on, and witness this tragic time first-hand day-and-night in their home?

It's really a lot to ask a grandparent, who also need to grieve.
I can't imagine the mother will be returning to work until this is concluded.

You capture my thought, ChatteringBirds

There is no easy solution to this.

 

[airportwoman]

As I stated earlier, MOO, is that a woman would have been charged and jailed. It seems like men get a pass, because they are "babysitting".

I disagree x 10,000. He's only out because he's got a lot of money.

If she wanted a 9-5 job as an anesthesiologist, she could, for instance, work in an outpatient clinic.

 

[airportwoman]

Does anyone know if his ex-wife or any kids they had together have commented on this, or do they even know about it?

 

[Herat]

An anesthesiologist could afford a live-in nanny. I'm actually surprised they didn't have one anyway.

If she was working full time and taking call. However, she may have been already limiting her availability or such and not really be full-time or taking full call. Such as doing anesthesia for an independent ophthalmology practice that is only doing cataract surgery or perhaps a plastic surgeon's day surgery center.

 

[LifeIsAMystery]

I wonder if there is a role for a Guardian Ad Litem for the remaining two children.

I just don't get the feeling that the family dynamics are dedicated to the safety home environment for the children and the parental dynamics are off in this situation.

As long as the father lives at home, he is around those children. What happens if they get a babysitter? Does he continue his Playstation life with resentment to all for what happened? I assume they can pay for childcare, although it is surely difficult to find and expensive. In September, I assume the 5 year old will be attending kindergarten and the 9 year old will be in the 4th grade. That only accounts for a part of the day / night and the mother's job as an anesthesiologist usually comes with dedicated in-hospital call for long shifts that do not fit a 9-5 lifestyle. Do her partner anesthesiologists have to have their schedules disrupted and take more call so she can have more time to supervise the childcare. When she is gone at 2am at the hospital, isn't Dad back doing childcare again?

Optimally, there would be some other family member like a gramma or grandpa or such to be the designated caregiver.

This is complicated and allowing Dad to stay in the home is only going to make it worse.

Agree to all of the above. Plus it seems that there would be a tension and perhaps an incentive to influence the girls and what they tell people go on. Kind of compounds the tragedy and grief and sense or lack of safety and unpredictability. JMOOO.

 

[LifeIsAMystery]

Does anyone know if his ex-wife or any kids they had together have commented on this, or do they even know about it?

It has been an international story, so, likely know. The 1st child is also a minor, so...

 

[LifeIsAMystery]

An anesthesiologist could afford a live-in nanny. I'm actually surprised they didn't have one anyway.

The father being called the primary SAH parent may have been a goal of his for "other reasons" possibly, JMOOO. A live in nanny might have undercut the reason he did not have garnishable wages, for example, IMOO.

 

[al66pine]

His Other Child?

Family Court Case Information - Case History

Superior Court Docket: Family Court Case Information - Case History

www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov

From info on that site, my gen impression ---
CRS & his child's Mother had marked differences on child related issues, etc. beginning in 2012 and continuing for years. Most recent entry was in 2023.


edit: corrected ct. info (I hope).
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^ superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/
The Judicial Branch of Arizona in Maricopa County. Family cCt.
Can search by case no. or party name.
(Above Case Number: FC2012-051886)

 

[Charlot123]

An anesthesiologist could afford a live-in nanny. I'm actually surprised they didn't have one anyway.

You know, I was trying to understand what was happening inside the family and asked some questions.
- they have been together since 2012. Did he, how they sometimes say, "put his wife through school"?
- she was somewhat upset at him in the message, but is he typically "the angry one" in the family?
- they have many expences; perhaps her school loans still are being paid, plus, the house, three kids, travels. Is one more person, a live-in nanny, too much of a burden?
- look how many scandals from the celebrity world (e.g., Ben Affleck, Schwarzenegger, Jude Law, Robin Williams, Rossdale, the list is huge) and not only that (WS au pair threads) involve live-in help. Real-world women can take notes...
- His tone of messages "babe, our family..." is manipulative, but false and sugary. Surely an adult male's social language should be more developed? Both of parents tend to use cliches and platitudes, for that matter, but mother's professional and training languages are formalized, at least.
- In a good neighborhood, image is a lot. Hence, dad invested a lot of time playing the "pillar of the community" role. He coached two older girls, or posted pictures with "nice" comments. In hindsight, they appear "make-believe" and typical for image-driven, immature personalities. If he has ADD, however, this job is exhausting.

The statistics of forgotten baby syndrome doesn't change since 1998; the only years when the numbers went down were 2020-2021. Common perpetrators are men, and IMHO the context is "ADHD and being overwhelmed." This father's situation is peculiar only because he tried to organize some "respite" with a newer car function but didn't have the brains to do it right.

About the mother. Maybe she is the epitome of a modern achiever who also wants to have a normal family life. She has to settle with the best option she can find for a husband, and i think she thought she could rely on him. What she is left with are two other kids to raise and the life that's rapidly going down the drain. I wouldn't judge her: she may be a good doctor whose plate is too full. She can ill afford to grieve, as she still needs to steer her small ship and also, keep this loser out of prison.

I hope that eventually, she finds a good therapist and works through this incredible trauma. She didn't give birth to her third child to lose the girl in 140 degrees inside a car. Let's show some compassion to her.

 

[Charlot123]

One more, totally practical, angle of this case

There already is the shortage of anesthesiologists and it is going to get much worse. Mom is a 35 year woman, working at a major hospital, training younger doctors and raising a family. Whatever human flaws she may have, whatever mistakes she has made, nowhere in the articles or documents did I see her being inept. The hospital may rely on her, and big time. It is her who is the pillar of the community. She may have no time to adequately process and grieve it all. So, I'd really not judge her harshly. Everyone has his limits. Dad is a poor excuse for a human being, of course, but she has a long time to untangle it all.

Seeking a solution to the anesthesia provider shortage

Office-based surgery could prove to be a viable option for physicians.

www.ophthalmologytimes.com

 

[abyquinn]

I wonder if there is a role for a Guardian Ad Litem for the remaining two children.

I just don't get the feeling that the family dynamics are dedicated to the safety home environment for the children and the parental dynamics are off in this situation.

As long as the father lives at home, he is around those children. What happens if they get a babysitter? Does he continue his Playstation life with resentment to all for what happened? I assume they can pay for childcare, although it is surely difficult to find and expensive. In September, I assume the 5 year old will be attending kindergarten and the 9 year old will be in the 4th grade. That only accounts for a part of the day / night and the mother's job as an anesthesiologist usually comes with dedicated in-hospital call for long shifts that do not fit a 9-5 lifestyle. Do her partner anesthesiologists have to have their schedules disrupted and take more call so she can have more time to supervise the childcare. When she is gone at 2am at the hospital, isn't Dad back doing childcare again?

Optimally, there would be some other family member like a gramma or grandpa or such to be the designated caregiver.
This is complicated and allowing Dad to stay in the home is only going to make it worse.

This is a difficult and different situation from most when a child dies and the parent is charged. I don’t recall ever hearing of a parent being kept from caring for other children in the family after a hot car death, but most of those the other children aren’t considered witnesses for the state.

We really don’t know what their home situation was, whether they regularly had in home help. If Parker went to day care or preschool. It appears that the 5 & 9 year old weren’t out with CS & Parker and that they arrived home minutes before them. All we really know about them is what happened on 7/9. CS took Parker while he ran errands - he said she was asleep when they got home around *2:00 (actually 1250) so he left her in the car with the engine on & AC running while it was 109* outside! According to the girls he put food away and played video games until ES arrived home at 4:00 and Parker was found in the car, unresponsive. The children told LE CS regularly left them in the car. ES blasted CS for leaving Parker in the car after telling him How many times?! Not to leave them in the car.

I’ve seen several comments up thread stating as she’s a doctor, ES will be able to hire a great lawyer or team. According to doximity.com she graduated in 2019 from UA. I think like most young families they most likely have school debt, car payments, mortgage and with 3 little girls they most likely don’t have a fortune stashed to cover a dream team.

MOO, just thinking out loud.

 

[SMK777]

I’ve seen several comments up thread stating as she’s a doctor, ES will be able to hire a great lawyer or team. According to doximity.com she graduated in 2019 from UA. I think like most young families they most likely have school debt, car payments, mortgage and with 3 little girls they most likely don’t have a fortune stashed to cover a dream team.

SBM
True; it may be that they don’t really have the big money for a powerful legal team, and perhaps didn’t feel they could have a full time nanny either, for that matter.

 

[Charlot123]

SBM
True; it may be that they don’t really have the big money for a powerful legal team, and perhaps didn’t feel they could have a full time nanny either, for that matter.

True; nowadays, these are the IT sector wages that are driving the living costs up. The articles about the doctors' shortage in the country quote "low salaries" as nr. 1 reason for it. Sounds strange, right? But if you consider the time, training and investments necessary to become a doctor, plus, the cost of insurances, continuous medical education and all that it takes, it seems to be more advantageous for a person with high academic achievements to choose IT. Additional bitter irony - she has to pay for a lawyer for the husband herself; if she were a computer engineer working at a decent company, she'd be provided these services for free. So old parents' dreams to raise a child who'd be "a doctor or a lawyer" hold little validity today. ((

 

[al66pine]

How Many Yrs. Together?

....- they have been together since 2012....

snipped for focus.
Q: Anyone have a link handy re CRS & ES being together since 2012? Or any specific yr?
I have not found a marriage date or a year-specific ref to their being together.

I wonder because the Complaint in AZ. ct proceeding against CRS was filed by his child's mother on May 2, 2012.
AFAIK, info from earlier link* does not show the child's age.

Timing may or may not be relevant.
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I recall reading (in Daily Mail?) CRS made a stmt
(on his FB? IG? or ?) about TEN wonderful yrs together w ES, but IDK when/what yr CRS said that.

* Ct. info.

Family Court Case Information - Case History

Superior Court Docket: Family Court Case Information - Case History

www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov

 

[LifeIsAMystery]

You capture my thought, ChatteringBirds

There is no easy solution to this.

If he were in jail there could be PT childcare hired for non-school hours. School will be in session again in weeks. That would have seemed simpler, but the mom vehemently argued for this.

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I personally focus on the safety of the child. It's not a zero sum thing between the parents. The child needs and deserves to be protected, in this case from a KNOWN and ONGOING risk that resulted in her death. If one parent is a risk and the other has no responsibility to protect, that leaves the helpless young child defenseless.

To me, if it was a paid caregiver who was a known ongoing danger, the parents would be seen as non-protective. Here BOTH had a duty to protect Parker, both failed, one obviously has more culpability for the outcome.

Had she not known he did this I would feel differently. She knew it continued after she talked at him but did not take any other steps. That she also pleaded with the judge to get him immediately back in the house with the remaining children also concerns me. She is not economically dependent on him so there is not that consideration.

I would also criticize others who knew of this ongoing danger and who did nothing, male or female. This child deserved to live and be safe. I don't think her death should be fodder for gender war discussions which just shift the focus off how often KIDS ARE FAILED and they DIE young and horribly. Both parents need to be accountable with safety, not risk taking or enabling, the bottom line.

YMMV this is JMOOO.

 

[LifeIsAMystery]

How Many Yrs. Together?

snipped for focus.
Q: Anyone have a link handy re CRS & ES being together since 2012? Or any specific yr?
I have not found a marriage date or a year-specific ref to their being together.

I wonder because the Complaint in AZ. ct proceeding against CRS, was filed by his child's mother on May 2, 2012.
AFAIK, info from earlier link* does not show the child's age.

Timing may or may not be relevant.
____________________________
I recall reading (in Daily Mail?) CRS made a stmt
(on his FB? IG? or ?) about TEN wonderful yrs together w ES, but IDK when/what yr CRS said that.

* Ct. info.

Family Court Case Information - Case History

Superior Court Docket: Family Court Case Information - Case History

www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov

He had a post on SM that referred to them being together 10 years that was a little dated, think it was in the Daily Mail. You could try there or I guess look for his socials. JMOOO.