Nancy Grace : [18:33] Now I understand also—to Annette Newell joining us, KXL News—that at least one person saw stepmother, Terri, leaving the building. How do we know what time she left, did she leave alone? Who is confirming that?
Annette Newell: Actually that information came from the mother of Kyron. She said that there were several witnesses who have told her that they did witness him leaving in a truck with the stepmother. So that’s basically where that information came from.
BOY DISAPPEARS FROM ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SCIENCE FAIR: WHERE'S KYRON HORMAN?
The reporter’s answer to Nancy’s question at this point in the video is
flat-out misinformation. Desiree has never said that witnesses told her they saw Kyron leaving in a truck with Terri. Never. Not once.
Nancy Grace asks Ms Newell nearly the same question again at
timestamp 31:59 and Ms Newell provides factual information in her answer.
However, let’s look at what Desiree has said time and time again. Desiree has said that witnesses saw Kyron, Terri, and Baby K leaving the school parking lot together at approximately 8:50 a.m. The school parking lot is on the east side of the school. The white F250 pickup was not parked in the school parking lot.
In the book “
Boy Missing—The Search For Kyron Horman by Rebecca Morris”, we learn Desiree’s information came from a meeting “
at the Marriott with the deputy DAs and Kaine and his attorney” present. [Pg 199] In other words, it’s not simply information Desiree received first or second-hand. The fact that there are witnesses who saw Kyron, Terri, and Baby K leaving the school parking lot together has been confirmed by law enforcement.
At some point between 8:15 a.m. and 8:45 a.m., the F250 was parked on the gravel/dirt road on the school's west side, which leads to the soccer field. (The gravel/dirt road is also called the service road and/or the access road).
In my opinion, there is an important distinction between witnesses seeing Kyron, Terri, and Baby K walking through the parking lot and witnesses seeing Kyron, Terri, and Baby K leaving in a truck.
The next series of links are statements from Desiree from 2015 to 2023. Desiree does not say Kyron was seen leaving in a truck with Terri. If anyone witnessed that happening it has not been confirmed by law enforcement, Desiree, or Kaine.
Unofficial transcript:
Snipped: [November 25, 2015] [Voiceover] [1:23] This picture of Kyron beaming proudly in front of his project on the red eyed tree frog was taken by his step-mom, Terri, just minutes before he vanished.
Jason Mattera: What time did Kyron go missing?
Desiree: It was exactly between 8:45 am and 8:55 am.
[Voiceover] Yet the school marked him absent that day. In fact, it wasn’t until Kyron’s father, Kaine, and stepmom, Terri, went to pick him up from the bus that anyone realized he was missing. The 7-year-old’s disappearance triggered a massive search that captivated the nation. But even in those first agonizing days, Desiree, seen here being comforted by Terri, knew something was amiss. Desiree claims several people told her they saw Kyron leave with Terri Horman.
Desiree: He was in his classroom. He got the photo taken by Terri, and he, apparently according to eyewitness accounts, multiple adults that can vouch for the fact that Terri walked out the side entrance of the school with Kyron in tow and we know this because Kyron’s friend even saw him with her right outside the school.
Jason Mattera: Terri denied that she ever left with Kyron but scrutiny intensified when Desiree claims Terri reportedly failed two polygraphs.
Missing: The Search for Oregon Boy Kyron Horman Pt. 1 - Crime Watch Daily
Snipped: [May. 25, 2018 ] “He was seen in in throughout the school along with Terry (Kyron’s step-mom) and Kiara (Kyron’s step-sister) and a lot of eyewitnesses place him in the key classrooms, looking at the exhibits. Then we know that at approximately 8:44 in the morning he was posing in front of that picture that we all know, in front of his exhibit. We know that Terry was in the school when she took that picture, then from that point we have eyewitness accounts that place him leaving the school with Terry right out the side exit,” said Young.
According to Young, that was the last time anyone saw him, “We just don’t know what she [Terry] did with him from that point until the time that she’s captured on surveillance footage at the gym,” said Young.
https://web.archive.org/web/20180526053432/https://www.kdrv.com/content/news/national-missing-childrens-day-the-search-continues-for-multiple-families-483754111.html
Unofficial Transcript:
Snipped [June 4, 2019]
Matt Johnson: [15:15] And do you think that he made it to school that day? What is your working theory on that because I know that some people thought that maybe the picture had been taken before.
Desiree: Nope. I know for sure, 100%, the picture was taken in the school. It’s GPS—it’s confirmed; it’s verified. We know exactly what time she took the picture, where she was at. And it’s confirmed with technology. So, she was in the school at 8:45 taking that photo of Kyron in front of his exhibit. I know that she left the school; she left with Kyron. And we have eyewitnesses that place them outside the school en route to the truck. It’s from that point where it gets unknown.
3 - MISSING: The disappearance of Kyron Horman, Mother Speaks Out
[Pg 200]
The bombshell was that Kyron was seen leaving the school with Terri. The MCSO had said it a couple of weeks before, then retracted it. Now it was confirmed. Kyron’s regular bus driver, plus Kyron’s friend Carson and Carson’s sister and grandmother, had all seen Kyron leaving the school on June 4 with Terri. It was true. Kyron, [baby “K”] and Terri had walked through the parking lot at 8:50 a.m. on June 4. They were not holding hands, the bus driver said, but they were walking together. Terri had not parked in the school parking lot, where she said she had, but on a gravel road on the far-west side of the school where the elevation of the school building and grounds partly concealed the white truck.
"Boy Missing · The Search for Kyron Horman" by Rebecca Morris [2020]
Snipped: [September23, 2023]
Desiree: …So he was in the school with you, Terri, between 8:15-8:45am, then he left. Walking out the doors with you 8:45-8:50am as noted by several eyewitnesses.
Websleuths Kyron Horman Discussion Thread Post 9
Unofficial Transcript:
Snipped [May 2024]
Desiree: [17:32] The other caveat is the picture. So the real timeline that we know—absolutely; witnessed by everybody; on GPS with the camera—is that she came up that stairwell; walked Kyron all the way to Ms. Porter’s classroom, took pictures of him and his two friends in front of the diorama, timestamped 8:45 a.m. right before she walks out the side doors with Kyron.
That also is witnessed by Kyron’s bus driver. She happened to be sitting in her bus and saw Terri and Kyron come out of the school with [the baby]. And his other friend and grandma and sister are outside the school and see Kyron leaving with Terri. So we know that Terri went from the school, and we know that she went to two Fred Meyers.
7-year old ABDUCTED from Portland SCHOOL: A mothers fight for JUSTICE
Unofficial transcript:
Snipped [May 2024]
Desiree: [50:01] The one thing that I hold onto—cause a lot of people come to me and say ‘well, when you are prosecuting a case like this you can’t say if Kyron is out there in the world somewhere’. And I say this: ‘Kyron relied on one person that day. That’s it. Terri is it. He relied on her that day. He was with her. She had him’. It’s the worst kind of evil.
7-year old ABDUCTED from Portland SCHOOL: A mothers fight for JUSTICE
If anyone has time, please take a look at where the F250 was parked. Kyron, Terri, and the baby were witnessed in the school parking lot/driveway. To get to the truck, they would have to turn right at the end of the parking lot/driveway. As far as we know, no one saw them after they walked out of view at the end of the driveway. Notice the wooden telephone pole on the side of the gravel/dirt road. According to LE’s reenactment, the F250 was pulled up just past that.
‘Street view’ from the base of the school driveway.
'Street View' on NW Brooks Rd facing gravel/dirt road leading to soccer field
Maybe this is better. The big white push pin (added to the screenshot by me) is approximately where Kaine’s white F250 was parked between 8:15 a.m. and 8:45: a.m. (I have to link the video to post the screenshot. The timestamp is 4:35 for the screenshot).
Where is Kyron Horman? Portland Boy Has Been Missing For 10 Years.
3rd Flyer, LE's Reenactment Released August 11, 2010
[Pg 263]
Underhill said at least one witness told police they saw a second adult, on a phone, in the truck while Terri was in the school. Another had seen the truck moved. Later, detectives told Desiree that despite tips, they didn't think there was anyone else in Terri's truck, at least when it was parked at the school. They thought the person sighted on the phone in the truck was Terri.
"Boy Missing · The Search for Kyron Horman" by Rebecca Morris