Found Deceased FL - Madeline Soto, 13, Missing Child Alert, 13500 blk Town Loop Blvd, Orlando, 26 Feb 2024 *arrest* #12

[lonetraveler]

That is manipulative to me, to call them sleepovers and slumber parties. is like shes trying to minimize it and make it sound more innocent. She knows full well this is not a slumber party, as if she was going along with what maddi wanted. She says she was not aware of the SA, I wonder if she ever saw them "playing Dr." Thats about the mentality there.

If this so called "mother" isn't arrested, I'm going to need extensive therapy.

 

[lonetraveler]

She is soooo rehearsed. I swear, her answers are verbatim to Stephan’s.
She is toast!!! IMO

I definitely hope that you are correct and that she is indeed toast.

 

[lonetraveler]

do people with bipolar 2 typically take their medication at nighttime,? I wonder if something else made her out of sorts on Sunday, or does missing a dose really send you into a spiral ? I wonder if the 2 pregnancy tests are still there, under the sink, and when they were purchased. isnt that sorta like putting the cart before the horse if they were Jenn's.? She had a Boyfriend that lived out of town, she said they didnt have sex when they lived together let alone when he was living back in north port. if Jenns, and she was so worried about getting pregnant I would hope she took some proactive measures also. Bottom line is, who were those tests for.

 

[lonetraveler]

Maybe JS was out of sorts because she knew that a pregnancy test came back positive. She was fretting about what to do.

 

[lonetraveler]

In an earlier comment, I once shared that in my opinion that SS had the IQ of a grape based on how his actions as he tried to cover up his heinous crime.

It just confounded me that he thought he was going to get away with Maddie’s murder and would be able to hide evidence of the CSAM with all the CCTV and digital data available. Not to mention, his testimony did not make logical sense, was not consistent with the established timeline and location of his movements and raised alarm bells for most responding investigators and even some of Maddie’s friends.

However, according to DS and SS’ IQ test, my opinion was way off the mark…

…Or maybe grapes are just really smart and I owe them an apology

Yeah, I think you owe grapes an apology, LOL.

 

[Forest_Wood]

Maybe JS was out of sorts because she knew that a pregnancy test came back positive. She was fretting about what to do.

It was odd that JS knew exactly how many pregnancy tests she had stored. She wasn't sexually active with SS for quite some time, so who were those tests for. It also seems odd that by others' accounts, MS was upset about something on Saturday because she didn't want to go somewhere, JS was out of sorts on Saturday because she "forgot" to take her medication, and SS was anxious on Saturday for some unknown reason. What was going on!

 

[lonetraveler]

Snipped for focus

I don't think so. I'm starting to think she didn't care about Maddie at all, and possibly viewed her as a rival for SS's affections--hence the Woody Allen reference. And was relieved that her rival was eliminated.

She has said nothing good about Maddie from day one. Instead it was all she's so forgetful, she's kind of abnormal, etc. She has NEVER said she loved Maddie.

If it came down to her seeking justice for Maddie's murder or protecting SS from the consequences of Maddie's murder, she would choose to protect SS every time. IMO

A lot of us instinctively recognized this early on, and now that her police interviews have been released, we can see that the cops saw the same things we did.

You are so right on about what was going on. I think you nailed it. JMO

 

[Pruddennce]

Not sure. What went on in North Port from 2/24 to date is confusing and somewhat incomprehensible. While the HTC interview does add to the information base in this case, it raises more questions too.
At 1:30:00 onwards the Stearns indicate they have turned considerable items and materials over to LE, and THEY PLUGGED IN THE USB drives into "the computer...". You can only conclude that computer had to be another, not the machine that did not have an HDD. Also they state it took police 3-weeks for LE to come get those drives and the desktop computer at which time the HDD was missing, but CS says Stephan had used that computer the morning of 2/25 before he headed for Kissimmee.
We know also that CS indicated he had found an old hard drive and 2-USB drives in their storage unit; in a bin. That happened after LE had executed a search warrant on that storage unit. SS was in custody well before that unit was searched by LE so why did they not find the drives themselves?
If we are looking for things that don't quite make sense in this case: There's lots to go around.

MOO

and add it when CS in in LE's car on 2/28 they tell him they are going to send someone to his house to check for Madeline, "maybe she is in SS's room'....CS responds: Madeline isnt stashed in their house (after he is told about SS trip that morning), saying "DS had been sorting out his room....he lives like a 'effin pig'." so DS is in SS's bedroom, 'sorting it out'. on 2/28.

 

[MollyDDD]

I definitely hope that you are correct and that she is indeed toast.

Burnt toast!

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

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Keep wondering if SS might eventually or ultimately provide information about any one else’s possible involvement.

IMO it is hard not to think that the parents CS and DS should also be examined. For items such as the apparent missing or unfounded computer hard drive at a minimum.

And as @Pruddennce notes in post # 1008 above, the apparent ‘sorting it out’ in SS room in their house. With SS visits and appearance there IIUC after MS was missing, hard not to see possible tampering with evidence or obstruction of justice? The investigation had only begun and was ongoing!

IMO if other charges can be laid, it might help invigorate or ‘fresh-start’ the investigation and change the dynamic between anyone suspected or involved. MOO

 

[MollyDDD]

It was odd that JS knew exactly how many pregnancy tests she had stored. She wasn't sexually active with SS for quite some time, so who were those tests for. It also seems odd that by others' accounts, MS was upset about something on Saturday because she didn't want to go somewhere, JS was out of sorts on Saturday because she "forgot" to take her medication, and SS was anxious on Saturday for some unknown reason. What was going on!

I’m not sure of this timeline, but perhaps if MS was pregnant, that would be pretty upsetting to a young girl, and those other two may have been planning a murder. JMO

 

[MollyDDD]

Yes. Their imaginings would be romanticized. Even pregnancy would be about all the attention and maybe how cute the baby bump would be. I've read/seen/heard more than one child mother who "just wanted something that was all mine". I wish I could remember where, but it's just over the course of my lifetime.

There was a TV show on a while ago about just that, teen Mom’s or something. Nothing like promoting such a thing on national television but seems like today anything goes. If a girl “just wants something all mine”, tell her to get a hamster!

 

[MollyDDD]

When I consider how that piece of trash SS betrayed and abused this child, I want to "kill him with my bare hands" as the saying goes. I cannot understand her mother's demeanor (as most of you have already expressed). Poor little Maddie could not possibly have understood her reality from a mature point of view or as outsiders see it. Is it too terrible of me to hope he's put into the general population of the jail/prison?

No, not at all. Personally, I’d prefer a public hanging.

 

[MollyDDD]

and add it when CS in in LE's car on 2/28 they tell him they are going to send someone to his house to check for Madeline, "maybe she is in SS's room'....CS responds: Madeline isnt stashed in their house (after he is told about SS trip that morning), saying "DS had been sorting out his room....he lives like a 'effin pig'." so DS is in SS's bedroom, 'sorting it out'. on 2/28.

Interesting how CS uses vulgar language to criticize his son to LE, to try to deflect attention away from himself. No different than what JS is doing. IMO

 

[KooshBall]

If this so called "mother" isn't arrested, I'm going to need extensive therapy.

I feel so much hate towards this woman, it's probably very unhealthy, but completely justified imo.

 

[Poedelini]

Thanks for sharing this @Poedelini …. and I think I caught something that IMO was unsettling.

JS is clarifying to detectives about her medication and her need for sound sleep that evening. At ~12:04 in (12 minutes 4 seconds) JS mentions her need for sleep to detectives and then states that she had sent them (SS and MS) upstairs. The video then indicates at ~12:30 that [redacted] had asked could all three sleep together in one bed instead? (Exactly whose name is redacted is not indicated. But JS’s next statement is along the lines that MS is a restless sleeper and tends to move around, and that might disrupt her (JS) rest. And as a result that suggestion by [redacted] was overruled and then SS and MS were sent upstairs at JS request. Which is MS last evening IIRC.)

So if this is correct, seems that MS has asked or pleaded with JS (and SS) to let them sleep with her. Maybe that was obvious earlier to others…… but I somehow missed it.

And if this is the case, the result of that decision is apparent. Sadly. And seems MS may have requested that all be together? As if she might not have wanted to be in a bed with SS IMO? SMH. MOOT

To be fair almost every statement she made is questionable. Who sends their daughter to a smaller bed! with their ex boyfriend. She is a pathological liar. Nothing that is coming out of her mouth is trustworthy.

Jmo

 

[Pruddennce]

Not sure. What went on in North Port from 2/24 to date is confusing and somewhat incomprehensible. While the HTC interview does add to the information base in this case, it raises more questions too.
At 1:30:00 onwards the Stearns indicate they have turned considerable items and materials over to LE, and THEY PLUGGED IN THE USB drives into "the computer...". You can only conclude that computer had to be another, not the machine that did not have an HDD. Also they state it took police 3-weeks for LE to come get those drives and the desktop computer at which time the HDD was missing, but CS says Stephan had used that computer the morning of 2/25 before he headed for Kissimmee.
We know also that CS indicated he had found an old hard drive and 2-USB drives in their storage unit; in a bin. That happened after LE had executed a search warrant on that storage unit. SS was in custody well before that unit was searched by LE so why did they not find the drives themselves?
If we are looking for things that don't quite make sense in this case: There's lots to go around.

MOO

thanks for the info. I just finished listening to his father's interview on the 28th and then the parents interview on March 6. (jeez, Im so glad to hear about their diets and how much weight they loss....funny....they claim they are REALLY PRIVATE PEOPLE).

CS and DS interview...full of head-scratching statements, IMO. storage unit key-a-ram story made my head hurt. as well as the faulty home keypad battery story.

it was not 3 weeks later for Northport to pick up the computer because as of this interview on March 6, the computer has been taken by Northport.

AND: CS takes credit for offering up the desktop computer, as if LE wouldnt be taking it which, as it turns out has no hard drive. so glad CS reminded them. /s

March 6 interview in their home:
Det: when Northport was here apparently they were given a computer is that right?
CS: I gave them the computer okay yeah cuz there was a uh a desktop computer, Tower and I said and I told Alex
I said hey you know there's a tower unit here, desktop I said you guys want it and they said yeah we will probably do that.. and so again I reminded Northport police that it was here so I gave it to them.

 

[FromGermany1]

So if this is correct, seems that MS has asked or pleaded with JS (and SS) to let them sleep with her. Maybe that was obvious earlier to others…… but I somehow missed it.

And if this is the case, the result of that decision is apparent. Sadly. And seems MS may have requested that all be together? As if she might not have wanted to be in a bed with SS IMO? SMH. MOO

.... and IF it was so very important for Jen, to have her daughter and SS NOT in the same bed with herself (not even on the same floor!), then she might have had a plan together with SS, how this last night of Maddie would go. HER own ALIBI would be being sleeping alone in her bed on the ground floor. The rest of the nightly "bucket-list" SS had to manage as he was the one, who benefited the most since 5 years (in JS' eyes and thinking).
SS had been the patient recipient of JS' orders and wishes for years, it seems. Why would he have suddenly acted independently this weekend? That makes no sense at all.
I don't know, who the more pervert is of these two. MOO

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

To be fair almost every statement she made is questionable. Who sends their daughter to a smaller bed! with their ex boyfriend. She is a pathological liar. Nothing that is coming out of her mouth is trustworthy.

Jmo

That is so very true @Poedelini …… and I absolutely agree!

And with these four now being interviewed…… SMH….. At the same time, there is an old adage…… ‘in every lie, there might be found a kernel of truth’. And as Benjamin Franklin said ‘half a truth is often a great lie’.

I sure don’t envy investigators having to sift through all of this. But there just might be enough sharp edges in there to get to something else…… and additional charges. One can hope. I am. As often said here…… MS deserved so much better. MOO

 

[ShadyLady]

.... and IF it was so very important for Jen, to have her daughter and SS NOT in the same bed with herself (not even on the same floor!), then she might have had a plan together with SS, how this last night of Maddie would go. HER own ALIBI would be being sleeping alone in her bed on the ground floor. The rest of the nightly "bucket-list" SS had to manage as he was the one, who benefited the most since 5 years (in JS' eyes and thinking).
SS had been the patient recipient of JS' orders and wishes for years, it seems. Why would he have suddenly acted independently this weekend? That makes no sense at all.
I don't know, who the more pervert is of these two. MOO

I am reminded of the text JS sent SS....something like: I cant afford to have Maddie sleep with me anymore.
What was that about.
And after listening to CS speak with LE he described when JS told him to get SS a lawyer. She was not stressed at all about hearing about SA or that her child was missing.
And when JS was being interviewed by LE or media....it was all about "her" story, no pleas about finding her daughter. Not sure she even brought up Maddie's name when speaking with LE. VERY odd. IMO