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    WA WA - Sky Metalwala, 2, Bellevue, 6 Nov 2011 - #11

    littleredridinghood's comment has been removed by the site administrator. The replies to it give some clues as to what it apparently said (I didn't see it before it was removed).
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    GUILTY MA - Two women & two kids stabbed to death, Winchester, 14 June 2010

    Wow. I didn't know Laura Stone Mortimer, but apparently she worked in the same highrise office building as me. Probably rode the elevator with her a few times. What a senseless tragedy. Thankfully the guy is behind bars now. Condolences to her family... what a devastating loss, 3 generations.
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    GUILTY Mexico - Monica Beresford-Redman, 42, Cancun, 5 April 2010

    Apparently she was found deceased in a sewer on the hotel property: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100408/ap_en_tv/lt_mexico_producer_s_wife
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    GUILTY Canada - Romeo Cormier for holding 54yo woman captive, Moncton, NB, 2010

    What the... so was Cormier allegedly holding her hostage in the boarding house?! And nobody noticed?
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    NE NE - Vanderlei, Jaqueline, Chris (fnd dec'd) Szczepanik, 7, Omaha, 14 Dec 2009

    I don't know much Portuguese, but I'm going to make a few informed guesses. pq = porque = because Sounds like both these posters are implicating this Oliveira guy ("she complained because tb olive live one time at home with her" -- oliveira is Portuguese for olive tree, and was likely...
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #2

    No, 8 pm-ish. This is near the Safeway gas station.
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #2

    The diner is at the intersection of Martin Way and Pacific Ave. in Olympia. We don't know what road she took to get to the Boston Harbor area, East Bay seems more likely if we are working under the assumption that she was trying to get on I-5 at Plum St. but missed the turn. Of course it...
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #2

    I'm one of the people who posted that it's a pretty straight shot. It is, but this is also a very highly congested part of Olympia with many malls and shopping centers. The roads were not designed to accommodate this level of vehicle traffic, so there are huge backups for some turns...
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #1

    She may have bought the wine at Handy Pantry -- she was there just before 8.
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #1

    Many Safeways in Olympia have a Safeway-brand gas station in the parking lot. Here is google streetview of the gas station at the Harrison Ave. Safeway...
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #1

    I should add that the Safeway on Harrison Ave. is very close to the freeway (101) -- less than a mile and two turns at most.
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #1

    From this article: http://www.king5.com/home/Father-of-missing-boy-picks-up-search--88194812.html
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #1

    Just to clear up some geography -- while Mackenzie and Katherine were both found near the Columbia River, only Katherine was in the gorge; Mackenzie was found hundreds of miles away in Wenatchee. IMO, there is no apparent connection between the three cases, though it is a sad coincidence.
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #1

    There is a map earlier in the thread that has the location marked; IIRC, it's on 46th Ave. NE, near Boston Harbor. Not a hugely populated area, but not totally rural either. If I were a predator, this would not be an area I would think to look for a victim -- very low chance of a victim coming...
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #1

    Or maybe the stress of getting lost in Olympia with a hungry kid on the way to a reunion with a family member she hadn't spoken with in a long time was enough to make her want a drink? I do think the waitress said they serve alcohol at the diner. I haven't been in since they changed the name a...
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #1

    If he was making the repair in Toledo/Vader, that is a pretty good distance from Olympia... at least an hour's drive on the freeway. He might also have taken SR 411 from Vader to Castle Rock. I've done it a few times, it's more pleasant than I-5 with all the semis and hills and people doing...
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #1

    Toledo-Vader is a couple of small towns just off I-5, maybe 10 miles from Castle Rock. This is a pretty empty stretch of I-5, and Toledo/Vader is one of the few exits with services available in the area. There's a back road between Vader and Castle Rock that's more pleasant/scenic than I-5...
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #1

    This case has always reminded me somewhat of the woman who drove her minivan filled with kids the wrong way on the highway in NY -- the erratic behavior, the lateness, the calls to family that didn't quite have enough information to provide the necessary help -- but this was not a similarity...
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #1

    Here's a website with (approximate) tide tables for Olympia on the night they went missing. Note that low tide was at 10:42 pm local time, probably around the time the vehicle went into the mud/water based on the timeline. http://www.dairiki.org/tides/daily.php/oly/2010-03-13
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #1

    The footprints immediately around the vehicle were probably washed away when the tide came in. If Shantina & son kept walking along the shoreline, those footprints may have been washed away as well (or they may have been walking along the rocky kind of beach prevalent in Puget Sound -- there is...

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