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she searched the father but can't remember the child did all the babies who were killed have dads? married dads? I will ave to google as I have not allowed this case but that just jumped out at me a bit

@Jillyg good point!! she was filming him approach....was he not looking up watching them at that point? phones would be the first thing to take if he had a posting history with her or a digital trail leading to the girls.

This is beyond horrific I’m thinking the gunshot wound came AFTER the delivery of the little one. So this poor poor lady suffered so badly. I hope she was passed out somehow and didn’t live though a bodge job c section Horrific beyond words I hope they throw the book at the pair of them! As we...

So if Allen was there on the trails that day and told LE this, did he also give a description of someone he saw? Described himself? One way to remain in plain sight!

Thankyou for the new thread...wonder how many more we will need! focus all seems to be on Libby. Just wondering if we should focus more on Abby? are we missing something with her?

had she seen health professionals regarding her pregnancy? joined online groups?

I can’t help but wonder what would have happened that day if Kelsi had accompanied the girls… or another friend had tagged along

garrote? wire. i feel sick even typing that,so sorry if it has upset anyone

for photography purposes?

There was a geocache located around the bridge. I remember checking the website and finding Libby herself had found the cache and signed the log!

I went back and read thread one as the whole thing unfolded Scary how accurate early theories were Also, early speculation within the first 20 pages was that the perp could be left handed. It was an interesting read

i don't remember the timeline girls were missing then found then sketch and video was released not sure how much time there was in-between those events

If he knew they were on to him and his game was almost up….and he would know his life would then become a life sentence in jail/on death row….kind of begs the question why is he still alive!? Why would he want to live his remaining years in hell in a state prison where he will be a target?

Imo the tip line has been left open to capture everyone from Allen’s past….they will all be coming out now It cannot be that a 45 year old man got up one day and decided to murder 2 kids and then just carried on with his life like nothing had happened He must have a past

I have no idea how they knew to search his backyard…. A tip off maybe? Seems they knew where to look

I think the ‘posing’ may have been the SA element. I also think photos were taken and possibly sent to KK to add to his collection?just my opinion though

was wondering if there were any other charges against him regards Abby and Libby. Murder. No SA? Kidnapping etc Or will those charges be in the affidavit….or would someone else have committed those

So where is he being held? How will prison life be panning out for this guy right now? Is he allowed visitors other than legal? I’d he likely segregated? With time we to think I hope he changes to a guilty plea. Guess he has no incentive to at this point

I’m impressed that LE are saying the trial is in March…. Not long to wrap it all up in time wise is it? They are clearly confidant they have enough so far Here in the U.K. a trial would be years away

Is it possible police bugged his residence at some point? Is that a thing in the U.S? Also, I’m sure I read this morning, before the presser that Allen was NOT cooperating with LE? Is there more on that I may have missed? I’m also wondering what his alibi was for that day….and how/who was it...