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Another rock in the puddle... If DG knew that he would get caught, would he have proceed with his murderous spree? I think not, therefore he had some sort of control over his actions..

If Clifford Olson has cancer, he would get treatment ( I'm not sure if he still alive) no one in the system would oppose it... wherever his treatment was successful or not, I would not know because I could not be bothered to check up on him.. Not interested in his welfare, that does not mean...

My point is/was we should be talking about prison violence or violence in our society but DG is not the best poster boy. Totally natural that most people would not care about his difficulties.

The same way that we hear about the one happening in the streets..Is there that much of a difference? We could patrol the street and pour money into prison, there is always going to be violence.

<modsnip> I think most of the threads were generally about the actual prison conditions.. Putting a child killer in a common area with the other inmates.. and repercussions from that. As for DG, let not spent more money on him then we have to..

We do not become them It does look like a set up, at the end though, it's where your priorities are.. schools, hospitals prisons, on and on. I do not how to interpret the incident.. Publicity stunt from the institution, RM, in that case, focus on funding ? Guards having a good old...

"What happened at the farm, that does not prove to you that DG caused the death of Alvin Liknes, Kathy Liknes, Nathan O'Brien" Kim Ross. Did he mean the incineration of the bodies? I know that KR is not implying mercy killings but he sounds tortuous in this statement. I'm not sure what he...

Still odd that DG was not segregated..His beating must/should have been foreseen. Not that I care a fig what happens to him..

It is odd that he was in the common area. I wonder if DG lawyers had to request confinement for their client when he was being processed?

Maybe, when T.Vader claimed that he was hit by a guard, the CCTV showed him going down but that's it. The guards know where the cameras are and must be leery of lawsuits.

I should have quoted Otto post in his entirety. I did not made it clear that I was referring to the guards involvement.

Easier if you stay log in, sorry again for double post..

Obviously a child murder is one of the most horrific things that we as a society would abhor, and while he [was] awaiting trial on that matter he [needed] to be protected from potential assault from other inmates, that's just obvious," Savage said. "So how this could possibly happen at this...

I see , so he had 2 pairs then?. Because I thought he hard burned the one from the Liknes"s house. So much to remember and piece together.

The shoes?

Burning barrel, clean saw..

I think it was directed to Patti,earlier in the trial, Allen was interviewed and asked about how she was doing, he answered "not good". On that side of the family, they must feel some kind of responsability, even though they are victims too. DG is Patti's children(s) uncle...

Give them puzzles? And keep them the heck away from the public always, if you are mean like me send him women shoes size 11. Just kidding..

There is. Who else would DG gone after if he had got away ? Imagine having to share a jail cell with him ? Not that it is likely..

And there is always a wide spectrum in mental heath. I know we have a long way to go. It's difficult when the patients/individuals are the one that refuse treatment, and in many cases our heath system are too often happy/constrained to oblige. The family's burden is extensive, monetarily and...