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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #7

    I thought about Edmund Kemper, I mentioned earlier. He locked himself out of the vehicle, and his victim, locked in the car with his gun, let him back in. I always wondered how that could have happened, but maybe when you're that frightened of someone, you do what they ask, even when you could...
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #7

    Though there hasn't been a DNA matching someone in the system, I wonder if it's been matched to DNA of any cold cases in the area...
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #7

    It could very well be like Mars photos where an object 3 inches high is zoomed in and looks like some huge alien monolith but in reality it was a tiny rock outcropping of 3 inches. The "truck" could very well be a toy tonka truck or just some rocks and trees.. but I'm not 100% convinced if that...
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #7

    http://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/indiana-state-police-identify-two-bodies-found-as-missing-carroll-county-teens
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #7

    What about those duck boots ..aren't they kind a mix of rainboot + hiker?
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #7

    Didn't know it had been called in. Good to know.
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #7

    There are trees in front of the supposed vehicle, which says ground level to me. Not bridge level.
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #7

    I reported this.. which from the original photo, looks to be an area below the bridge, at ground level. http://i.imgur.com/wgNDO4r.jpg http://i.imgur.com/NtWCQNL.jpg
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #7

    I was thinking he spoke with authority too. It's just so disturbing to hear the audio.
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #7

    Is anyone proposing that the fabled vehicle is on the road? It looks like it's below the bridge to me, and at ground level. I wonder if there is an "off-road" way to get your vehicle to the creek? Someone said that there are posts at each end of the bridge so that cars can't cross... does that...
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #7

    If you're crossing in ankle/shin deep water, it would be very cold, but maybe not unreasonable to that you could make it across? There maybe other parts of the creek that are more shallow and have exposed "rock gardens"... when I used to kayak at a local river here, I sometimes had to get out...
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #7

    I've tried to explain it away as railroad hardware, trees, shadows.. but the more I look at it, the more it looks like a vehicle to me. Could totally be a case of pareidolia though.
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #7

    I sent in an email to Carrol County with links to the two images I blew up and sharpened. I doubted the existence of the vehicle too until I saw an adjusted / zoomed in image. Maybe they'll have a photo expert on hand to verify/debunk it.
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #7

    Yes ma'am. Also brings to mind Edmund Kemper.
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #7

    I don't really get it. This is the first thread I've been part of where there's been a lot of snarky and sarcastic remarks. I was pretty active in the Nicole Lovell forum and I don't recall any such behavior.
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #7

    If there is a vehicle, and the type can be made out, I don't see that as anything but helpful in helping ID him.
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #7

    Okay, well, I can't help seeing the wheels, and the entire outline of a vehicle.. including the front wheel well. in both photos. I wasn't suggesting everything that looks "brightened" is reflective surface, but I think the fact there is believable lighting on the front of the vehicle, which...
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #7

    I was exasperated with the vehicle under the bridge angle, but after my last go around with the photo that was posted, I'm seeing it too, and I don't see how anyone else can think its anything but a vehicle.
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #7

    I got snippy with someone yesterday, I'm glad it was deleted before too many people saw what a jerk I was being. Which I felt bad about later. I'm an on and off again poster.. I lurk a lot more than I post, and I have to say, I've always been impressed with this community.
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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #7

    I didnt see the vehicle, but after playing with the photo in Lunapic.. I'm seeing something that does indeed resemble a vehicle or truck. This is the image after "brightening" - seems like this shows when there's reflective surfaces

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