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    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.12.17 - Final Charge - *Verdict Watch*

    Shannon Martin‏ @ShannonMartinTV We are back in the courtroom at the Laura Babcock murder trial, without the jury. Tim Bosma's parents, Hank and Mary, are here sitting with Babcock's parents, Linda and Clayton. #LauraBabcock Shannon Martin‏ @ShannonMartinTV Justice Code has...
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    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.12.17 - Final Charge - *Verdict Watch*

    Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews Hank and Mary #Bosma have arrived to support #LauraBabcock family during this jury watch.
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    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.12.17 - Final Charge - *Verdict Watch*

    Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews Lunch will be at 1p.m. for 1.5 hours. Dinner is more complicated, judge says. He usually asks the constable to poll the jury at about 6pm. The jury can keep working or pack it in. By 7pm he knows the answer, he says. Dungey would like a firmer schedule...
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    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.12.17 - Final Charge - *Verdict Watch*

    Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews The judge will let the jury retire to consider these options. Jury members nod that these solutions are "responsive" to what they were looking for. They're going back to deliberations again. #LauraBabcock Shannon Martin‏ @ShannonMartinTV Code...
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    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.12.17 - Final Charge - *Verdict Watch*

    Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews Millard's was 4 hours, Dungey's was 2 hours, Cameron's was 2 hours, "so it would be an eight hour process for you to come in and listen to them." Judge doesn't want to hear why the jury wants the closings, but wants them to know their options. #LauraBabcock...
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    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.12.17 - Final Charge - *Verdict Watch*

    Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews In the interim, Code reminds the jury that his 20-page heading "X" gives them a summary of the three closings. Otherwise they can come back into court and listen to the audio recordings of the three closings. #LauraBabcock
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    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.12.17 - Final Charge - *Verdict Watch*

    Shannon Martin‏ @ShannonMartinTV The jury at the Laura Babcock trial is now in the courtroom. Code says he's providing them an index to his 338-page charge, to help them navigate the sections. #LauraBabcock As for their request to get a transcript of all three closing addresses, Code...
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    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.12.17 - Final Charge - *Verdict Watch*

    Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews The #LauraBabcock jury will be given options for the closing arguments they asked for. If they want to listen to them, it will take 8 hours (Millard 4, Dungey 2, Cameron 2 hrs) or they can wait until tomorrow noon when transcriptions can be available...
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    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.12.17 - Final Charge - *Verdict Watch*

    This is spot on, IMO. I don't know why people try to tie DM and MS to one particular motive, and either argue against it or for it. They both had different motives, and those motives could easily change/evolve with their needs, moods, whims. Motive is very hard to pin down because humans are...
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    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.12.17 - Final Charge - *Verdict Watch*

    Also redacted was a text Millard sent Jan. 18, 2013 to a cousin inquiring about what he’d been up to. “Smuggling drugs killing hookers,” was his reply. Babcock had been working as an escort before she went missing. http://torontosun.com/news/local-news/mandel
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    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.12.17 - Final Charge - *Verdict Watch*

    If they’d looked into Millard, they would have discovered that despite his privileged upbringing as the wealthy heir to a Canadian aviation dynasty, he had a history of running afoul of the law. In 2010, it ranged from the petty — he and Smich hurling a pumpkin from a moving car on a...
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    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.12.17 - Final Charge - *Verdict Watch*

    http://torontosun.com/news/local-news/mandel “I’m down to merk (murder) people if it’s a big enough payoff” — Dellen Millard in a text kept from the jury.
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    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.12.17 - Final Charge - *Verdict Watch*

    There was evidence of 16 prior "missions" carried out by the two men and their motley crew of hangers-on. From May 2010 to January 2013, there was a spree of theft, mischief, arson, drug trafficking, robbery, among others — and the Crown wanted it all before the jury. Proof, the...
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    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.12.17 - Final Charge - *Verdict Watch*

    Here come the "what the jury didn't hear" stories.
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    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.12.17 - Final Charge - *Verdict Watch*

    Yes, I agree with this. This is not what the other poster was arguing, though.
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    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.12.17 - Final Charge - *Verdict Watch*

    Still makes no sense that he would feel the need to hide Laura from MS, then an hour later bring MS all in, whether she was deceased at that point or not. MOO
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    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.12.17 - Final Charge - *Verdict Watch*

    In this scenario, why would DM care if MS saw Laura? That makes no sense.
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    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.12.17 - Final Charge - *Verdict Watch*

    Thank you, Kamille and meterclicks! :loveyou:
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    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.12.17 - Final Charge - *Verdict Watch*

    But then why not say "we should get US a dog", or "we should get YOU a dog"? Obviously DM knows that MS knows he has Pedo, so it would have been clear what MS meant. IMO this was discussed at "the titty bar" and they were both clear on what the plan was.
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    Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.12.17 - Final Charge - *Verdict Watch*

    RSBM Wow. I hadn't noticed the "me" before. The Crown should have hammered this home.

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