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The article mentioned her riding her bike alongside a toy wagon that her dad used to pull the other children around the neighborhood on walks. Nothing to do with a car. She sat in the wagon with her brother, then when there was a third child and she was old enough, she rode her bike and the two...

My husband was just telling me about a radio program he heard about children who grow up in abusive situations having stunted growth and delayed puberty as a result of stress. (The program was about J.M. Barrie who apparently suffered from this and was inspired to write about Peter Pan as a boy...

That car is over 18 feet long, and you can see in the photographs that the height of the cliff is several times the length of the car. (https://www.thecarconnection.com/specifications/gmc_yukon-xl_2003_4dr-1500-sle)

There was literally no water left for them to drown in, This woman would've had to have been watching for an opportunity to enter the yard when she thought my friend was gone [but wasn't]. I really don't want to derail the thread with a discussion of this, my point is that we can't make a...

I believe this was just an estimate from glassdoor or similar, for a department store assistant manager's salary.

Well exactly. They had to work hard to catch a tiny peek, peering through a cedar hedge, and that justifies a visit from CPS. Edit: the full story is actually far more bizarre. Her kids (both toddlers) got out of the kiddie pool. She stepped up onto the porch to get a towel, and when she turned...

I'm sure this is true in many places, but it seems that responses are sometimes extremely lacking and sometimes completely over-the-top. Different location, but they had time to investigate when my friend allowed her toddler to be naked in a kiddie pool in their backyard, which is completely...

Thanks for posting. Nice to see at least some specific descriptions of the individual children other than Devonte, although this is still pretty disturbing:

I think this is possible if the decision to end everything hadn't been made yet. They might need to get rid of the two kids who were drawing attention and who were less likely to cooperate with a cover up in CPS interviews. if they hadn't yet reached a full state of panic or mental break, the...

It's also something about the word "forever" that sets off alarm bells, as in the relatively new acquaintance telling JH that she felt a connection with her kids and wanted "to be in their lives forever." I don't know, maybe I just watched The Shining too many times at an impressionable age...

This was my thinking previously, that it is so hard to believe something like this is actually happening. But if she isn't just exaggerating now, and she actually did see the Turpin story on the news and say to her husband "that's what's happening to the children next-door," that excuse goes out...

The Turpin children were discovered on January 14, and released from hospital on March 15. Even if the news story they saw was at the time of their release and not their discovery, it still was more than a week after that before they called CPS - a week during which Devonte was coming to their...

Quoted from kizzykat in previous thread regarding the Dr. Oz show with the neighbors: What the actual &!?@ ??? I've been trying to give these folks the benefit of the doubt, saying it must have been hard for them, they weren't prepared to handle a situation like this... but if you legit...

Yes, that's right. Of course, now that we know they are the two missing, the chances of them being the two missing are 100% since that's what happened. But I'm talking about the statistical likelihood of that happening, since many have commented on the "coincidence" of the two who are missing...

I just wanted to clarify the mathematics here. I am still catching up a few pages back, so my apologies if this has been covered, but I've seen a couple of answers, none of which was completely correct. This is regarding the probability that the two missing would be the same two who had reached...

Sharp eye! It looks like he's pulled his arm out of the sleeve and inside the torso of his clothing? Could just have been because he was cold, or it could have been in a sling or cast.

My understanding is they no longer lived in Portland but rural Washington state. On google maps, it looks like Naselle is about 1.5 hours from their home.

Oh, I'm by no means saying that's actually how it happened. But the comment I was responding to was that it's not possible for a tooth to come out like that unless it was extracted, which is definitely false. I'm becoming concerned about the amount of confirmation bias in many of these posts...

I don't know that it's worth re-posting all the links now, but this was discussed for several pages a while back, and there was consensus from dentists and other dental professionals that teeth do come out in that exact way as the result of certain kinds of impacts. I believe it was called...

Some really interesting points here. This demonstrates just how little we know about the family. We have largely constructed a narrative with Jenn as the abuser/controller, but we have little evidence either way. This scenario could be equally likely. An interesting note from the linked...