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When you say you think David Payne is a red herring, do you mean that you think there was no sexual abuse going on, or that you don't think he had anything to do with hiding Madeleine's body, or both? Tink

I agree that Kate's reaction when she discovered Maddy missing was very strange. After the McCann's made such a big point about how close the apartment was to the Tapas restaurant, why didn't she just step out to the balcony and shout to the others? If that wasn't possible, why didn't she use...

I can think of reasons why David Payne might agree to help cover up Madeleine's death. Let's say her death was an accident. David had been friends with the McCanns for many years; I could see him being convinced that nothing could bring Madeleine back, but if this gets out it could destroy...

I thought their suggestion was that Madeleine was taken out the front door? Or wasn't there a suggestion that she must have been either passed out the window or that the person climbed out of the window with her? Because otherwise why was the window open? (And wouldn't someone notice a...

Speaking of "who would leave a child alone" - I was reading the statements of Jeremy, Gerry's friend from tennis who stopped to talk to him that night. I noticed that Jeremy and his wife left their two children in the creche when they went to the Tapas restaurant, and that one of the creche...

I had wondered if perhaps the cadaver scent or fluid in the rental car could have been transferred? If Madeleine was hidden (perhaps in David's apartment) initially, and then moved three or four hours later, there might have been some transfer onto a blanket or clothes Gerry was wearing when she...

I've posted this before, but I think the reason Madeleine's body has never been found is that it is in the ocean. In the statements, it says the ocean is just a five-minute walk from the resort. The McCanns did go there at least once, and may have also gone running down by the ocean as well -...

What if David moved the body initially (maybe to his apartment?) and then Gerry decided that wouldn't work and took her elsewhere? Tink

Well, that is very interesting. I read the statement of the social worker. The McCann's reaction is really a bit odd. Why wouldn't they want her help? She might have been able to help in many different ways: in helping with explaining what had happened to the twins, in talking with staff and...

I went to look at some of the interviews to have a better understanding of the timeline, and I noticed that for some reason, while the men were playing tennis, David Payne (I think that's who it was) left to visit with Kate while she was (apparently) bathing the children. Does this not seem...

I find your writing kind of hard to read and I am still trying to figure out what "chirply" means. But I will make a couple of comments. In an earlier post you commented on how any child abduction is risky. There is some truth to that, but I think this situation is somewhat exceptionally...

So, I've heard the parents say on video that it was "just like sitting your back garden" having a drink while the children are in bed. That's really a very deceptive comment: you'd have to have a VERY large backyard to be that far away from your children's room (with a pool in between and a...

Well, assuming they have an hour, it seems very simple to me. One parent carries the (apparently sleeping) child down to the ocean and puts her body in the water. Done. Nobody would pay much attention to someone carrying a sleeping child in early evening. They were around this holiday location...

Logically, it seems to me that she must be dead. Here are my reasons for thinking this: 1. If she was taken by a pedophile to be sexually abused, it's unlikely that the person would have kept her around. Pedophiles usually prefer a specific age - one who desired a child as young as Madeleine...

That makes sense to me. Horrifying, disgusting sense, but it seems to fit. Tink

I don't know this case nearly as well as some of the rest of you, but: In the interviews with the McCann's friends, at least one said that Kate told her they left the back door unlocked so that if Madeleine woke up, she could come and find them. (Frankly, I think that was a very idiotic...

Exactly. And it is clear in that video - he is the one telling the story and laughing, it's not a reluctant response to a friend trying to cheer him up. A grieving parent's mind is consumed by their sad feelings, especially so soon after the loss, and even more so if the child has been abducted...

Clutchbag, that is exactly the video I was referring to. Tink

I think I have seen too many cases of people who kept up the facade of being perfectly normal and who did horrible things. I think I've mentioned before Karla and Paul Bernardo, who had no criminal records and who raped (over several days) a teenage girl and left her body in their house, while...

I don't see how this time frame means they couldn't dispose of the body. You have an hour there between 7:30 and 8:30. Could not someone have just carried an (apparently) sleeping child down to the ocean and disposed of the body there? Seems pretty straightforward to me. TP