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    Why This Case Will Soon Go Cold Again...

    LINative13--I hate to say it, but I'm really beginning to feel that this case is going ice cold too...Yes, I know that LE is being very tight lipped about it but to hear absolutely nothing (other than the discovery of recent body) doesn't give me much confidence. I'd like to think that they're...
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    Gilgo Beach 4 Only (GB4)

    Good work Seaslug--interesting info! And Shadowraiths for the initial observation (although I apparently never noticed the post) and confirmation that not ONE of the victims were indeed placed exactly 500 yards apart! It does change the LISK profile somewhat, he isn't precise, exacting killer...
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    Shannan Gilbert Found, death declared an accident. What do you think?

    Yes, we're now in the 3rd month--I just hope that means they're doing a really thorough job. It'd be nice for her family to be able to lay her to rest soon.
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    Q&A for LI Locals and those that grew up here

    Hmmm, a trail from the Ocean Parkway? If it was definately there before they searched, it makes it possible for her body being placed there later. From what I've read and news reports I've watched, this area has alot of brambles and brush. How high is it and just how passable is it when it's not...
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    Q&A for LI Locals and those that grew up here

    Welcome LINative-I was wondering if you had some knowledge on how often the marshy area where Shannon was found is under water. And, if so, just how deep does it get etc.? Did you drive by it during the year she was missing at all? I'm really wondering how the various storms affected the area...
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    POI: Joseph Brewer

    Interesting point on the stature of the victims, it'd make it easier to strangle them having longer arms. I have a feeling that this SK enjoys the face to face strangling and seeing the life ebb from his victims. And he certainly doesn't want to have any attention drawn to himself by getting...
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    POI: Joseph Brewer

    Good point on the stalking angle, I completely missed that he could've gotten all of that information on Melissa's sister and bf from her cellphone. So he had access to all the pictures, phone numbers, etc. that she had on it and not have to do any physical stalking. And yes, probably would...
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    Victim - Melissa Barthelemy

    I was really curious about this too--I think Dwntwnslim is correct in LE not having confirmed JT's story. I'd hope if it's true that they'd realize what an important lead this is. Since we know nothing about the ongoing investigation I'm assuming they follow up on that. I'm thinking that...
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    Victim: Megan Waterman, 22, missing June 2010, found Gilgo Beach Dec 2010 *Rex Heuermann charged*

    I agree--how despicable can a human being get? The more I read and hear my eyes are really being opened about how so many of these pimps (alledged "boyfriends") victimize these women. And to threaten to kill her little daughter...beyond contempt. Yet I'm sure this happens all the time. Not only...
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    POI: Joseph Brewer

    Shy and nerdy--what a perfect way to appear in order to put the girls at ease. MOO
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    POI: Joseph Brewer

    Extremely intriguing post Aleph-good point on the fact that some of the women did have this rich friend/client out on L.I.. And it is indeed possible that JB was beginning to groom her and build her trust, since it appears that she had never been there before. "Boundary blurring"--that's a very...
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    POI: Michael Pak

    Yes, that is really odd--"Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas"? Any other movie BUT that would've been a better choice, given the circumstances...They say life is stranger than fiction...
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    POI: Joseph Brewer

    Reannan--First off, I'm beginning to really doubt JB is the SK as well. Yes, I would think that Melissa's sister would be able to recognize his voice if he was. goathairjones--always interesting to hear information from you locals! Yeah, it didn't surprise me to hear that JB was into the...
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    Manorville Bodies: A Second Killer? Latest Remains found 02/17/2012

    Agreed, you're so right about sloppy reporting mucking everything up. It's amazing how these rumors just continue on and become "fact"--quite annoying. I loved how Shannon's 911 call was reported as 20 min, 22 min, and 23 min--these journalists out to be ashamed with their inaccurate stories...
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    NY - LISK Bodies found as of December 10, 2011 Thread #13

    A very good point, Amber was deep into the heroin and her sister said she go with just about anyone to get money for her next fix. Yes, MBB was getting evicted...these women were desperate for the cash. The more I think about it, I really don't think he was a regular--way too much of a risk...
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    NY - LISK Bodies found as of December 10, 2011 Thread #13

    I agree with you Windsor and Dwntwnslim-we should focus on the other victims as well. Any links between them, no matter how trivial they may appear, might be a springboard for an important break. I certainly hope that the Gilgo 4 families are continuing to talk amongst each other, offering...
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    POI: Michael Pak

    Lil Miss and MrsPC-Thanks for the gate pictures. So the vigil was at a 2nd manual gate? Interesting...So is this gate on Oak Beach Road just north of The Fairway? I see on the google maps that it feeds onto the Ocean Parkway on the left...
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    POI: Michael Pak

    I appreciate the info! Certainly clears up the mystery of how he probably got out... MOO
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    POI: Michael Pak

    Oh, didn't even consider that angle-thanks! MOO
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    POI: Michael Pak

    I've been wondering about that myself--WHEN were they erased and WHO erased them? GC? Also, another thing that's really been bugging me is how in the **** did Pak get past the gate to leave Oak Beach? It's doubtful that Brewer would've given him the combination. I haven't been able to find the...

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