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    Found Deceased IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #37

    SBM Hope you have a fast recovery! As for DM's sentence reduction, it could happen. Iowa is having the budget doldrums still and there's beginning to be an unspoken thought that maybe we (along with the rest of the US) went overboard in the 1980s and it was a big mistake. The states that have...
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    Found Deceased IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #37

    I went to the caucus Monday evening. I've been to every caucus since 1976, with the exception of 1996. It was foggy all day and as evening drew close the fog got thicker. Snow was predicted, with a major weather line running east and west; north of the line is supposed to get 12 inches, south of...
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    Found Deceased IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #37

    Looking at that map, something strikes me but I don't know if it has any real meaning or not. In Iowa, when presented with a road that essentially makes an otherwise closed circuit around an area, most Iowans will stick to the righthand side of the road and so travel the circuit in a...
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    Found Deceased IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #37

    I'm not real good with Google Maps, Images, etc. I couldn't find any street view images and my guess is that it is just not high enough traffic to warrant sending the Google car out there.
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    OH OH - Ronald Tammen, 19, Oxford, 19 April 1953

    In any case, if Ronald Tammen had mob connections, would he have mentioned finding a dead fish in his bed to anyone else? I think it was most likely part of a culture of pranks. And that an attempted prank, either connected to the fish or unconnected, went very, very wrong. I wish someone could...
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    OH OH - Ronald Tammen, 19, Oxford, 19 April 1953

    Gangster movies were a popular part of the film noir movement (which lasted from about 1940 to 1960). I don't have any titles that come to mind that feature a scene with a dead fish sending such a message but I think it must have been well known because I can remember understanding that message...
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    Found Deceased IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #37

    I would think any incidents around Meyers Lake would have gotten a lot of press coverage. However, I think your questions about people who may have changed their patterns after Lyric and Elizabeth were abducted is really good. I'm sure there are probably a few women, probably younger women, who...
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    OH OH - Ronald Tammen, 19, Oxford, 19 April 1953

    SBM I have mentioned at various times one more reason for a man to be blood typed in those days: he had a friend who wanted to get out of a possible paternity claim. Blood typing was nowhere near as certain as DNA; all it could do was rule one out as a father. A successful defence against...
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    OH OH - Ronald Tammen, 19, Oxford, 19 April 1953

    College-age is when schizophrenia, bipolar, etc. often begin to manifest themselves, and 1950s middle America was not a good time or place to be if you were struggling with issues such as sexuality, for example. So I would lean toward something along those lines as a possible reason to either...
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    Found Deceased IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #37

    SBM I agree that Elizabeth was probably ranging further on her bike than her parents knew. I know I sure did when I was 8 years old! Looking back, I realise that my mother probably had some suspicions but so long as my sister (one year younger than me) and I were with the neighbourhood pack of...
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    Found Deceased IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #37

    Yeah, once you get a good feel for the layout of the Meyer's Lake area, it makes the hair stand up on the back of the neck. I could not have designed a more perfect spot for the purpose. The city of Evansdale and the Angels Park people have changed the look of the area significantly, so that it...
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    Found Deceased IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #37

    Word from locals that Maiden Lane was fairly well known amongst teens in the area as a party spot. Same thing as with 7 Bridges: hidden from ordinary surveillance, not known to the general public but anyone who was a teen in the area during the last 20 to 30 years or so probably heard about both...
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    Found Deceased IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #37

    That little building is a utility lift station; Maiden Lane makes a relatively gentle curve behind that building and goes almost to the lower end of your measuring line at about the place where the "200 feet" label is. So a predator could have been parked closer to the bike path than to the lift...
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    Found Deceased IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #37

    If the perp's vehicle was parked where I think it was, the end of Maiden Lane, I doubt it would show on satellite because it is almost completely under the tree canopy. Might be enough to see a flash of colour, might not, depending on the colour of the vehicle (a dark colour would just blend in).
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    Found Deceased IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #37

    SBM As you said, the possible drug connection has been discussed a lot on WS. There was a brief (48 hours, more or less) when LE said that Dan and Misty were not cooperating but both before that 2 day period and after it, they were both described as being fully cooperative. Dan's mother said...
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    Found Deceased IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #37

    Fairly soon after the bodies were discovered, someone either in the media or on WebSleuths (can't remember which) speculated that the placement of the two bodies could indicate two perps, each of whom took one girl to assault and kill. In the summer, the weeds and grasses would have been tall...
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    Found Deceased IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #37

    It was pretty obvious that Frederickson was the perp from the beginning but the problem was no valid evidence. He lived in the same residence, so his DNA and fingerprints all belonged there. Her body had been dumped into the river, which tends to wash away forensic evidence. Sure, they could...
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    Found Deceased IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #37

    There was actually a nearly perfect abduction spot on the bike path where it made a relatively slight curve around the corner of Meyers Lake. The path was separated at that point from the lake by an eight foot chainlink fence (the same fence the girls' bikes were found leaning on). On the...
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    Found Deceased IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #37

    This is what seems most likely to me, as well. Even though many seem to feel that Lyric was the primary target and Elizabeth a secondary target, I have long thought that the killer was actually targeting Elizabeth. Maybe like Dennis Rader (BTK) when he attacked the Otero family; he bound and...
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    Found Deceased IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #37

    Or school custodian, church janitor, etc. There are plenty of ways that someone who is predatory can observe a potential victim frequently without raising any suspicion at all. Unlike stalkers who want their victim to know they are under observation, a good predator finds ways to get lost in the...

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