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Yes, SteveP120. I too still think it had to have happened down Drumm Ave and/or possibly the woods/path. Nothing else has surfaced to go along with the grabbing at the plaza scenario---at least that I have seen. In addition, I have always thought that it was too weird of a coincidence that...

Confused by the turns in the case especially how the sightings of the girls walking home have now been discarded. In addition to the boys identifying them on the walk home from the mall, there was also Mr. Mann in his yard (Drumm and Devin) at around 2:30 p.m? Also ties into many previous...

Even if crimes are not being solved yet, I am learning new things all the time from this thread. Had no idea what a "Peters" jacket was. Googled the reference above. And now I know. Thanks guys.:)

Steve: Where exactly is the creek that you reference? Is it along Drumm Avenue somewhere? Curious.

I have a fairly clear visual of the area because I grew up on the other side of Plyers Mill in a similar style neighborhood (Homewood) and from studying the maps. The only area I cannot visualize is the path that connected McComas and Jennings---I never walked it (too young when I lived there)...

Steve: I think you are on to something. Along with this line of reasoning (kind of the dumb luck criminal) is this: Welch's return to the area a couple of years later to rob the house on Hobson. Some kind of psychological returning to the scene near the crime? And almost asking to be caught...

Richard: That being said, what if the girls had been dragged to the nursing home or a neighboring house? Would the scent have still been there after the week of rain etc.? Or is that a possibility?

Gruffin: So the access road was for nursing home purposes on nursing home land, right?

Gruffin: Good work with the land deeds! Which takes us right back to the clearing maybe not being where Mary Ann Kuhn specified. Even if she had, as Richard noted, walked the route herself, her article is confusing on this point. Makes the most sense that the clearing would be at the...

Gruffin: I'm totally with your line of thinking on this but I go back to the article written by Mary Ann Kuhn: "The wooded path brought them out to a clearing behind the white two-story house of Mrs. Mary Tolker, mother of four, and a former principal of Potomac Elementary School. But Mrs...

Richard: Thanks again for another insightful response to my questions. The location of the clearing is still a little confusing to me because of the four other houses on McComas that would have been "in the way". Mrs. Tolker's house would not have been the closest to the clearing...

Do we assume the shed was checked out thoroughly----along with the rest of the nursing home and the nursing home staff? I guess the public will never have access to that kind of data.....

Richard: Agreed. Not idyllic which is why my parents chose to move in 1972. Lots of drug culture stuff going on---teenagers high flying off roofs, thrown out of moving cars. There was a peeping tom on our street who my father tackled one night by jumping off the deck onto him. The police...

This would make sense except that according to public record the Tolker House was 3108 McComas Ave. Unless street addresses have been changed, the Tolker house was 5 houses over from the corner of McComas and Drumm. So...not the last house on McComas. Also, there have been other posters...

Now I am realizing the "clearing" is right across from Hobson Street. Which is where Lloyd Lee Welch was arrested for burglary two years later. Do we consider this coincidence? (Sorry if I am reinventing the wheel here and this is old news....)

Okay, I think I figured this out a bit better. According to public records, Mrs. Tolker's house was 3108 McComas Avenue. So I was way off in my thinking. That address is a good bit down McComas in the direction to the left of Drumm if you are heading to the plaza. That section of Drumm must...

Thanks for your posts, Richard. I had seen the first article and used that along with google map. The white 2 story house of Mrs. Tolker is what confused me. I took the article to mean that the nursing home was to the right of Mrs. Tolker's house when you are on the sidewalk of McComas...

There are enough details given to track the route by using google map. If you take their last sighting heading home to be at the corner of Devin and Drumm, they would have continued on down Drumm, taken a left onto McComas Ave, then gone past the nursing home to a right onto the wooded path off...