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Watching the press conference now on BBC. Victims aged 25, 28 and 61. Believed to be related.

There’s already another 2 threads on this awful case, just to make you aware

Sadly a body has now been found: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/uoBdJqH94sYph96P/?mibextid=WC7FNe Police Scotland H&I Around 2.15pm on Friday, 26 April, 2024, a body was discovered just outside Aviemore. Formal identification is still to take place, however the family of Rodrigo Falcon...

Not unexpected, but desperately sad nonetheless. https://www.facebook.com/share/p/sAXuVJEtwBcsM3Gi/?mibextid=WC7FNe From the police Scotland Argyll & Dunbartonshire fb page: Around 6.20pm on Sunday, 21 April 2024, police received a report the body of a man had been found in water off...

Wow indeed. When two threads collide!

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So he was seen to fall and offered immediate assistance, but it’s taken this long to identify him?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-67563676 An inquest into the deaths of four teenagers killed in a car crash has heard that all four of them drowned. Wilf Fitchett, Jevon Hirst, Harvey Owen and Hugo Morris, from the Shrewsbury area, were found in an overturned, partially submerged car in...

I feel the same. Just tragic.

A forensics van has been seen on the road near where the car was discovered earlier. We'll bring you more information as we get it. Latest update from BBC

In the past few minutes two Wales ambulance service vehicles have driven through the police cordon, according to Brendon Williams, one of our reporters at the scene...

Latest update, nothing new North Wales Police have issued a statement in the last few minutes. It says that due to a member of the public giving them information, they have now located the car - the missing silver Fiesta they were looking for that belonged to one of the group. They say they...

The area that is cordoned seems to ring a bell with me, are there any popular caving sites nearby? Anyone local know?

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From North Wales Police on Facebook Following information from a member of the public, Officers searching for four missing teenagers in the Porthmadog area have located the vehicle they were travelling in. Police officers and colleagues from other emergency services are currently at the...

Hopefully! Sycamore Gap: Hopes shoots could regrow from felled tree There’s a lot of fundraising going on too, but nothing will replace that beautiful old tree. I’ve done the Hadrian’s Wall route twice now and it is one of the best bits!

So, in essence no consequence whatsoever. As it’s easy to see that disqualifications have precisely zero impact on him.

Not an experienced hiker and no water left (with his pack anyway). I hadn’t realised he’d spoken to his wife and said he was lost either. Not looking good.

Sadly I find it both utterly believable and entirely unsurprising.

From the article linked in the very first post “Jason Dunham, whose gun was used in the shooting, had a gunshot wound “consistent with being self-inflicted,” Stark County’s chief investigator, Harry Campbell, told the outlet.”