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I've only seen the ID program so I may have missed it, but did Jennifer's apartment ever get processed? All I remember is that it they said it looked normal, aside from the pepper spray.

BBM You bring up an interesting idea. Could the perpetrator have gotten away by taking the bus? IIRC LE have already checked footage from the transit center.

Thank you, I forgot about that! So if there are at least two other signs of strangulation (hyoid and petechiae) besides discoloration, why is the water an issue? Not to be gruesome, but I can't imagine the decomposition would be that bad.

Multiple users are saying it might be difficult to determine if strangulation occurred because she was found in water. Why would this be the case? Petechiae (red dots) would still be found in her eyes, correct?

Backing up what cluciano63 said, insurance companies usually pay out for suicide, unless insurance fraud is suspected or it happens before the contestability period: http://www.insurancelibrary.com/life-insurance/does-life-insurance-pay-out-for-suicide So re: theories that she committed...

I wonder why LE et al have been so stingy with details. It would really help to know, for instance, if she had water in her lungs. No water = probably her body was dumped there = homicide. Water = she was there for longer = stronger chances of suicide/accident, but not ruling out homicide. I...

With just the information we've been given now, things are not adding up for me. There are so may unusual circumstances: CD driving a car she normally didn't drive; parking in a spot she normally didn't park in; potentially forgetting both of her passes (I think someone mentioned her ORCA pass...

I have trouble believing a child, nearly frozen through, had enough manual dexterity left to open any door, much less a van. Regardless of whether he was strong, good with tools, or not, his fingers must've been stiff.

Is there a way to calculate the minimum time it would've taken for a 3-year-old to walk that distance? IMO, it would've taken a while even on a nice day, but it was well below freezing, so poor Titus must've been out for quite a while. Is it possible for a small child to survive that long in...

You bring up an interesting idea about the older couple, dek; but I'm more curious about whether the other campers heard them, rather than saw them, if they were on the other side of the reservoir. If you were searching for your child, wouldn't you yell for them? Is there enough info about the...

It's... really not that simple. You would be surprised by the number of "educated" people who have sex without protection and are surprised they got pregnant. Assuming she had children only as "band-aids" is irrelevant to the case and just seems like an unwarranted attack on her character. I...

I don't like this villainizing of Jessica because she (allegedly) didn't want children. Many women do not want children, and that doesn't make them bad. With sex education in the US being so bad, and Jessica having children so young, it's likely that she wasn't educated about contraception...

Listening to that new Klein interview, it seems like they could make arrests soon. They're "99.9%" sure DeOrr is deceased and more witnesses are coming forward about the timeline. If they get tips about the family situation, it might be enough to go for a murder charge.

Yeah, I can't believe that this was premeditated. It is sloppy, sloppy, sloppy. Even if it weren't, or they weren't involved, the chances of a case like this being a "random abduction" were slim. If it was the parents (and that seems very likely), they are bound to crack under police...

I don't know... Her posts on her Tumblr (now deleted?) make me believe that she wasn't actually involved. She may be the "motive", which is why she was so anxious, but I don't think it was her idea. Then again, she is still dating an alleged murderer, so who knows.

Wow, this case is so sad. Unfortunately, a parent "getting rid of" their child to keep their SO is more common than you would like to think. I doubt his lawyer can argue for insanity. Have there been any further developments re: the rumored drug connection? I don't think it's been addressed by...

This is my first time doing this. Sorry if it's bad. Based on what I've read about the case, I wonder if the timeline and events were something like: 12:45 - "Steven Stackowicz" calls. Possibly the killer feeling out whether she was home alone? Apparently there had been several hang-up calls...