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    Canada - Bruce McArthur charged in murders of six men, Toronto, 2010-2017

    This is already horrific but it's going to get worse. I fear his victims are likely in the double digits. Serial killers rarely start killing at his age. The crime scene is going to be on the scale of Robert Pickton, if not bigger. I also highly recommend listening to the 4 part series the...
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    Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #4

    I wonder what evidence/DNA they have. We haven't really heard much about that from both the police and the family/private investigator. That's normal to a certain extent but I find it interesting there's little about looking for suspects. I'm aware that sometimes saying very little is best so...
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    Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #3

    We don't know anything yet but let's say it did end up a murder-suicide - then this posthumous OC will look interesting. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/sherman-order-of-canada-1.4467101
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    Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #3

    Finally got around to reading this. http://nationalpost.com/opinion/christie-blatchford-no-evidence-police-screwed-up-investigation-into-sherman-deaths For the most part I do agree.
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    Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #2

    I suspect even if the evidence was very clear they still would not accept it.
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    Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #2

    I think the family is very concerned about the narrative being pushed out. That is completely understandable but it's definitely obvious they want to control what does and what doesn't get out. Also, I am still skeptical on a murder/suicide but just in general nobody wants to think their loved...
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    Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #1

    To me that's what it looks like. Especially if we go by how he was found.
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    Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #1

    Yeah I already addressed that in my comment, but even if it's personal I don't think phrasing it the way police did makes sense in that regard.
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    Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #1

    But going by what police have said they are not looking for any outstanding suspects. Of course they could be saying that for investigative purposes but it's not like they've said more or that they've made arrests. That is the issue I keep going back to thinking about who did it.
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    Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #1

    Even with all the sources coming out it's still in the back of my mind that police said no forced entry but more importantly - they're not looking for any outstanding suspects.
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    Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #1

    @KenWhyte3 as soon as i criticized coverage of sherman story yesterday, i began hearing that there has been interference by some media owners with coverage of the story @KenWhyte3 Replying to @HeerJeet...
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    Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #1

    I think a lot of family and friends don't want to believe someone they know could do something so horrific. Not saying that's the case here at all but just in general it's such a common, natural reaction. I think all of us here have watched enough true crime stuff to know people can live...
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    Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #1

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/17/world/canada/barry-sherman-death.html?smid=tw-nytimesworld&smtyp=cur
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    Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #1

    If they were found hanging above the pool as some articles suggest it would be pretty difficult to do that by yourself, if not impossible. Other articles have used language like "beside the pool." Hmm.
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    Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #1

    Also this article suggests they were found hanging above the pool. If you look at the photo of the swimming pool it's totally plausible. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5153507/bobby-sherman-wife-honey-dead-toronto-canada-side-by-side/
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    Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #1

    It may not have been that railing though. Judging by the image there were a few places I could see where it could be done. The media keeps writing that it was beside the pool, so it could also be in an area the camera didn't cover unless we see an entire, panoramic view.
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    Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #1

    Yeah that is definitely not their home. Here is the home they died in, which coincidentally Toronto Life profiled just days before this...
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    Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #1

    Has to be a different home if we go buy the media photos outside their current home. And all descriptions talk about it being out front of their home. Perhaps they moved?
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    Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #1

    I wonder what other trauma happened/what the autopsy shows. Getting 2 people to hang themselves seems difficult to do.
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    Laura Babcock Murder Trial - *GUILTY*

    The worst part for Dellen will be after his father's trial when he can't stand up in court and bask in the attention. He'll just be another killer in the prison and rot for life.

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