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not free we paid for it... Grr

With that said, would they be telling a tod or a time the body arrived where it was found, in the field where bugs can access quickly... don't know much about the subject, but would these insects necessarily have been on the body at time of death if say it was in his house/freezer for half a day...

wow. I'm at a loss for the hog tie stuff. I agree with your thoughts of what took place. I think he got her back to the barn and she had already passed away. Then he had to go bury her. He was going to probably go back to get his stuff but by that point it was too late and le was already...

i almost got sick just thinking about that:( literally.

NO! I most certainly do not thing he rode her bike!!!

I guess I missed reading that he was detained right at 3 am just hours later. I'm looking forward to reading that. Somehow I missed that... Did it say That in the search warrant he was take away then? I'm not sure where I missed reading this. :/ all along I was thinking they didn't have actual...

damn. That's crazy.

do u have a link stating he was detained immediately at 3 am the 20th I just haven't seen that yet and would like to read. Much appreciated.

oh okay I hadn't put hose pieces together it that he was taken right away on the 20th at 3 am into custody... I read it that he was arrested Friday. So much to learn!

which makes total sense. I guess looking at the dates on the search warrant and the date of abduction and it seemed to be canvassing all took place different days. Abduction 19th, initial contact w jw the 20th, search warrant dated the 21st, (unless I read wrong) arrest the 22nd. All different...

the police "canvassed" and spoke to him on one day and time (the 20th at what time?). Then they got the search warrant a different time/ possibly different day....the 21st? When was the very first initial interaction? The 20th? And what time?... He was not arrested the same day as the very...

i had thought the same thing I read somewhere about 3am the night of abduction but couldn't find it. I was just thinking if it was 3 am it could be possible she could of been in the barn when le first spoke to him at the front door or outside, I'm not sure that was stated, but then he took her...

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These items found in the barn, correct? Typically, these types of items used for an elderly would be found in a bathroom or cabinet, surely she isn't heading out to the barn with hidden room to use them! Could u imagine! I just don't buy that. My opinion.

Im thinking the same lines as u. I just don't think if she died at the scene of abduction he would move her elsewhere. I think hat would seem like too much work for him and he would of left her there. I mean it's not like he moved her that much further in all reality. Ugh. Disgusting .

I originally thought of a sock being used maybe for ejaculation purposes of he would be into that, as a young boy would use .. But after reading about using it for a gag might make more sense.

Yeah, I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around his wacko barn and evidence everywhere. Was he really that confident he would never be caught on to?! I don't get it.

Areed. I also wondered...can someone remind me the time frame when the police first canvassed his house and had contact with them? Was that the following day after she went missing?

I'm curious, if perhaps she did pass away at initial site, what do you think would be reasoning to move her to another spot and not just leave her there? I hope she did not have to enter the barn of terror.

I'm so disgusted. :(