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BBM Perhaps because they were pressed for time? I've mentioned elsewhere, they had to contact police at their "expected" wake up time, otherwise they would arouse suspicion. That became the deadline. So between discovery of the body and alerting the outside world, they had a set amount of time...

Nor me. Especially f this was after a "clear up". But the mess may offer timeline clues. The R's were scheduled at the airport. If they had missed that before contacting police, questions would have been asked. So they have to work backwards. Airport < travelling time < getting up to get ready...

Not wishing to re-visit the debacle of Karr, but one element still concerns me. Was ML so committed to her free the Ramsey Three cause that she would (ab)use international law against a fantasist as a diversionary tactic? If not, there had to be at least one compelling reason to act. If Karr...

Couldn't see the show here in the UK, but take it that I didn't miss anything? However, I could happily watch a 2 hour special of your pugs! What the hell, make it 6hours and teach them to howl at LW's photo...

A lay interpretation would be: JR allowed JBR to be in a situation that could reasonably be foreseen as likely to cause serious harm to JBR. A person&#8217;s conduct results in the murder of JBR. JR intentionally aided and abetted the murderer to cover up their crime. For JR, likewise read PR...

Hope that whatever this GJ member has to say, that they qualify it by stating: Were they personally in concurrence with the indictments (as they did not have to be unanimous decisions)? Were other indictments presented that did not achieve a quorum of concurrence? Just as there are...

This is PR's reaction when told JBR had been subject to prior abuse. Excerpt from Patsy Ramsey interview with Boulder Police 23rs June 1998 (full transcript on ACandyRose) 25 TOM HANEY: Okay. Ms. Ramsey, are 0581 1 you aware that there had been prior vaginal 2 intrusion...

Once again, thanks to Ambitioned for the video link and to Tortoise for uploading the screenshots. My sleep deprivation is being treated with caffeine... So, I'm considering that curious remark in Kolar's book about the possibility of JR dumping the missing items in someone else's bins, and I...

Thank you! If only we could see the photos from the Whites' Christmas Day party...

I thought it was an area of carpet that had been cut away? Have to go back and look again... but I should be asleep! This footage is fascinating. Great find Ambitioned!

Hmmm... Wonder what material that trophy is? It could be plastic, but certainly looks heavy.

The police ask about this scarf, and similar appearing ones. I remember wondering if they thought it was moved between kidnapping and murder phases.

In the video, the door through which Fernie read the RN appears to be two doors, one after the other - or is it just the late hour and my tired eyes? Spotted the blue paper outside though (the NY Eve invitation). Did Fernie mention that?

Its horrible, viewing it and knowing... I don't think that's the same footage I've viewed before, so thanks for the link. Really interesting. For the first time I noticed that there's another glass and an ordinary silver cutlery knife on the opposite end of the table to where the tea glass and...

Well spotted! Pun not intended... the thought of night vision goggles playing some part in the night's events gives me the creeps.

You have reminded me of all the questions regarding "night vision" binoculars. Police were certainly interested. From ACandyRose 1997-04-30: PatsyRamsey Interrogation by Steve Thomas, Tom Trujillo ST: Patsy,did you or John or anybody in the family own a pair of binoculars? PR: We have...

I can't recall seeing boxes of wine in the cellar photos. Was it all drunk on the 23rd? Wouidn't they have bought more for Christmas and taken some to FW's? Can't imagine Lady Boulder arriving empty handed. I've read that PR regularly had a bottle of white "on the go" chilling in the fridge...

Hadn't considered that possibility. Could it also be subconsciously following how PR types - wonder how it compares to her typed "we're a swell family" round robins that she sent out to everyone? Has anyone seen a true copy of one, rather than a re-typed version? I had always thought the...

My memory may be faulty, but hadn't JR started arrangements for the ransom payment very early on? He could have made additional calls then. Also later on, JR had ample time to use his mobile phone when he went out of earshot and eyeline of LA. But like the landline, a warrant was never issued...

Apologies if this is elsewhere on this Patsy Ramsey thread (started from scratch and am only a third of the way through reading everyone's posts here). Looking on ACandyRose for something else, I came across this: Ramsey Christmas 1993 "I was now ready for the final step, which unfortunately...