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  1. R

    Australia Australia - Claremont SK, 1996-97, Perth, WA - #13

    Thank you JoWA. If you or others wish to explore this issue further: In Western Australia Police utilise the Criminal Investigation (Identifying People) Act 2002. Sections of particular interest, are: Section 74. Use of illegal identifying information and Section 83. Evidence obtained illegally.
  2. R

    Australia Australia - Claremont SK, 1996-97, Perth, WA - #13

    Robert ADAMS, the murderer of Nurse, Mary WALLACE in 1983 provides a good Australian case study of a single offender, who was able to restrain victims by himself. This is also someone who was a serial rapist, who escalated to kill and was eventually undone by DNA. In his instance, despite...
  3. R

    Australia Australia - Claremont SK, 1996-97, Perth, WA - #13

    So, the new WAPOL crime fighting strategy is: If you don’t have the suspected offender on the DNA data base. You covertly obtain their DNA illegally. You then ask the Chem Centre to be complicit in the crime. If you get a match, you get the TRG to break down the door. You don’t...
  4. R

    Australia Australia - Claremont SK, 1996-97, Perth, WA - #13

    No, but I did. Context, is entirely relevant here. So, I will redirect: Were the Police Officers that allegedly obtained BRE’s DNA via a drug swab, Western Australia Police Officers or were they from another jurisdiction?
  5. R

    Australia Australia - Claremont SK, 1996-97, Perth, WA - #13

    Could you direct me to court cases where it was shown that WAPOL has obtained evidentiary DNA from an alleged offender by covert means?
  6. R

    Australia Australia - Claremont SK, 1996-97, Perth, WA - #13

    I am not saying, that WAPOL used familial DNA as an investigative tool, although I am aware that one of the UK experts they are using, is well versed in its use. However, some media reports have alluded to that technique being used. They may or may not be correct. These reports have led people...
  7. R

    Australia Australia - Claremont SK, 1996-97, Perth, WA - #13

    If the "someone" you spoke to, is “in the legal profession”, they should educate themselves or already be aware, of how WAPOL is authorised to obtain DNA and that a procedure, such as you describe, is against the evidence act.
  8. R

    Australia Australia - Claremont SK, 1996-97, Perth, WA - #13

    Did he? From the full Supreme Court judgement: In his Supreme Court judgement, the Judge said he had significant doubts about the reliability of the evidence concerning the finding of seed pod PAG57C in the body bag (see page 205). However, The Judge went on to reject any suggestion that the...
  9. R

    Australia Australia - Claremont SK, 1996-97, Perth, WA - #13

    The vehicle was first thought to be an unmarked Police vehicle. It was alleged to have come to the attention of BAYENS during a street prostitution operation that BAYENS was heading for WAPOL. As a transaction hadn't allegedly been conducted by the driver, they were not charged with an...
  10. R

    Australia Australia - Claremont SK, 1996-97, Perth, WA - #13

    Fibres, from JR were identified as having not been tested during a review. When testing was authorised, the fibres could not be located, as they had been misplaced, but not lost during a move. When they were subsequently located and tested, they were linked to fabric from White VS Commodore...
  11. R

    Australia Australia - Claremont SK, 1996-97, Perth, WA - #13

    JoWa you wrote: "IMO they may have used LCN DNA but they don't discuss how they managed to get the sample from CG, suggesting it was either through a specialist from the UK who was called in to consult or advances in technology. As LCN DNA is relatively new I believe this would present a...
  12. R

    Australia Australia - Claremont SK, 1996-97, Perth, WA - #13

    Security Cameras are installed at KK but are installed by the Metropolitan Cemeteries Board based on their liaison with WAPOL and Police Licensed Security Agents. The installation of cameras at KK is independent of the Nedlands Council as MCB are responsible for the management of the cemetery...
  13. R

    Australia Australia - Claremont SK, 1996-97, Perth, WA - #13

    Why is BE's DNA present at three different crimes scenes? Well, the prosecution will certainly try an answer that question and the defence will have to develop the other possibilities.
  14. R

    Australia Australia - Claremont SK, 1996-97, Perth, WA - #13

    No, I don't believe it was. They may have obtained investigative leads from familial DNA, but even that may not have been necessary, depending on the leads that would have been generated from the Huntingdale file, given the proximity of Edwards residence to the victim. Familial DNA may also...
  15. R

    Australia Australia - Claremont SK, 1996-97, Perth, WA - #13

    Well, I've clearly stated it's my understanding. IF familial DNA was a factor, as has been reported, that's exactly as it would have played out. However, familial DNA may not have been a factor and that may have been an error in reporting or reporters making assumptions. We do know WAPOL had...
  16. R

    Australia Australia - Claremont SK, 1996-97, Perth, WA - #13

    A familial link helped to establish BE as the POI. So not BE's DNA, but a relative on the data base. Investigation allegedly determines BE the most likely relative to have committed the crime, based on factors such as occupation, vehicle he was driving at the time, etc. He was subsequently...
  17. R

    Australia Australia - Claremont SK, 1996-97, Perth, WA - #13

    DNA actually linked to three incidents. Huntingdale, Karrakatta and one Claremont. Robin NAPPER and others, believed that Karrakatta was linked and that WAPOL should also look at other precursor crimes, but their experience was rejected. Unfortunately, some would say that the investigation was...
  18. R

    Australia Australia Claremont Serial Killer, 1996 - 1997, Perth, Western Australia - #12

    I don't believe WAPOL have any special relationship with The West any more than they do with any other news media. The West's article was really catching up with what the Post newspaper had already reported back in October 2015. The Post newspaper has really been on top of the Claremont Serial...
  19. R

    Australia Australia Claremont Serial Killer, 1996 - 1997, Perth, Western Australia - #12

    Operation Red Emperor was an organised crime investigation that had many sub operational names. One of the principal targets was alleged to be John KIZON.
  20. R

    Australia Australia Claremont Serial Killer, 1996 - 1997, Perth, Western Australia - #12

    Agree all you like, however, the Coroner's Court has ruled the Robyn SANTEN case a likely suicide.

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