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Me too, it would set a horrible precedent! No descendant of someone convicted of murder for gain should be able to profit either directly or indirectly. I'm sure they'd be the first to agree too.

Brutally succinct exposition!!! Love it :)

Hmm, I did wonder. Glad you thought it too..

I suspect it was the solicitors who loathed him, rather than the barrister. They tend to have much more one to one time with the defendants and would have known him much better.

You won't get many takers on here Mr J!

I concur Tortoise but I'm consoling myself with the de facto whole life sentence. Everything we discussed is inferred in the sentence. They don't hand out many of those so we know what the Judge really thought. Perhaps he didn't want to go too off piste in case the shitebag used it as a means...

I say let him have his temporal punishment before he reaps his eternal punishment. No rush is there? ;)

In prison, and the sort he will be going to, I doubt he'll make 70! A recent study of prisons found that a sentence of 20 years will reduce an inmate's life expectancy by a median average of 16 years.

C'mon Judge, "Pile" it on!! Give this *advertiser censored* the "Grapes" of Wrath

Mr J, hate to tell you this but your beloved "Investigative Journalist" Mark Williams Thomas was in the Daily Mail yesterday with an awesome new theory on the Maddie McCann case. She wandered off by herself don'tcha know...

Totally agree on all points IB. What worries me is how the son's are going to be able to reconcile everything that's happened and still find it in themselves to accept such compassion and benevolence. Right now they will be in shock and turmoil and only later will they somehow work through and...

Sorry LozDa, I should have made it clearer given we are on a new thread! I presupposed you were just adding clarity to the discussion around the legalities so it didn't occur to me. Then again, I am a bloke! :) I think you're right about JB but I wonder if, going back to what I said about the...

From my experience, notwithstanding any possible legal challenges to the discretionary trust as administered by Tony Hurley, those beneficiaries inheriting under such circumstances (Jamie and Oliver) would be highly reluctant to take anything at all. Irrespective of the legalities and Hurley's...

Morning all. I'm really going to enjoy Judge Bright's sentencing remarks today indelibly placing on record the vile, self-serving, predatory behaviour of this animal. I'm sure he'll have plenty of kind words for the absolute dignity with which Helen's family have held themselves in such awful...

Hi IB, the cloudiness isn't a problem per se as some gins high in essential oils from the botanicals used. Shouldn't affect the taste though outside of what the distillers wanted. Check the lovely, thoughtful daughter and hubby aren't doing a side line in moonshine! ;) Check out Sharish magic...

Don't!!! Now you've reminded me it's nearly gin o'clock. I betcha my gin is more expensive than tightwad's cologne! ;)

Lol... No, but when you deal with these types routinely you can "smell" them a mile off. I'm sure DCI Kent recognized the feculent stench just as easily! ;)

Well bless you for having such a noble and pure heart! Blessed are the peacemakers... :) It's not easy being a grizzly old cynic. Trust me you're on the right side of the fence. I'm just gobsmacked at how a friend and/or paid mentor could act in the manner this woman did and continues to do...

Originally Posted by Tortoise But she should have gone to the police with her 'intuitive doubts' when he switched tone and quizzed her on his way back from Broadstairs. That kind of information is like a piece from a jigsaw puzzle. What have you told police? Hello? Exactly...

Totally agree. No professional would countenance such a relationship. The fact she lacked such professionalism may or may not have played a small part in Helen furthering her relationship with IS. Either way it was a mistake!