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bbm .. this is what I think too. After reading the description of blood flow on AW on page 17 line 8.

Gina (or Jeana) must have gotten tired of listening to Schoenhorn's word salad along with the rest of us! 1:04:50 to 1:05:16 :D lol

BBM .. I've seen this stated before and keep meaning to ask where or how this information is known. Was it stated in an article or in one of the court filings? Just more curious than anything and keep forgetting to ask when I see someone talk about it.

That is a great interview and my heart breaks for the O'K family.

I agree .. it would be so hard. :(

Not meaning to blame in any way at all .. but just wondering why the grandma kept him at her house for 2 days before alerting police? and that was only after the mother showed up to pick Bryson up. *edited to say .. maybe the grandson begged her not to report it and she just didn't know what to...

The silver alert was just issued today after the parents failed to show up to a scheduled meeting with the Indiana State Police. So there was no silver alert last week when the Ohio police pulled the mom over. :(

That thought crossed my mind at first .. until I seen the silver alert ..he is 6'2" and over 200 lbs .. but I also don't know if the police were even allowed to search the vehicle or just looked through the windows.

I don't understand where the boy could have gone in a matter of a few minutes. According to the news articles, the boy was seen leaving in his mothers car and when the car was pulled over within minutes, the boy was not with her. It makes me wonder if the dad was waiting close by in a different...

I have wondered the same! Would love to see a photo .. there has got to be one out there somewhere.

BBM .. this is why they finally issued the silver alert because the parents backed out of the scheduled meeting. So those early stages of cooperation fell through. :(

... Earlier today, Daniel and Kristen Muir had agreed to bring their 14-year-old son Bryson to meet with ISP investigators at the Peru Post. The agreement was to meet at 12:00 p.m. At approximately 11:00 a.m., the Muirs backed out of that arrangement which signaled an unwillingness to cooperate.

https://www.wishtv.com/news/silver-alert-issued-for-14-year-old-logansport-boy-son-of-former-colts-player/

People camped out in lawn chairs like they are watching a parade .. this is so sad to watch.

IMO if it was unlocked at the time he entered, then someone would have had to lock it before this current employee found it "locked". So if another employee had been there and found the gate unlocked at some point, it would have been documented by that employee or reported. MOO

This is so strange to me .. that people show up here every day with their cell phones out .. like it's the red carpet. I can't even imagine how that makes the family of JOK feel to see this circus. It's really sad.

I think I read that they had to drain the lift station in order to recover the remains, so I wonder if they suction it out through a large hose into a holding truck and it was taken to the main plant? If so, maybe they filtered that while unloading and found more of the remains?

It's strange how we all see things differently. and that is okay :) I'm sure you know a lot more of what went on than I do.

this is what I have trouble with .. he does seem to lose his @#$& .. I've only watched bits and pieces of the trial and every time I see it, he seems to come across as rude. I'm just saying for me personally, it's very off-putting. I'm glad I'm not on the jury or even worse, sitting in that...

I have to admit .. I feel the exact opposite so far. His voice is loud and degrading to almost every witness I have seen him cross examine. As an outsider .. if I was on the jury, he would have lost me with his attitude. I just think he could get his points across without being so rude and...