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    NH NH - Maura Murray, 21, Haverhill, 9 Feb 2004 - #14

    I feel I am repeating myself but for the sake of new members I will repeat myself. The presence of a Grand Jury, and yes there was at least one and perhaps more than one early on in the investigation, DOES NOT MEAN there is an indictment or even a person of interest. Police often use what is...
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    NH NH - Maura Murray, 21, Haverhill, 9 Feb 2004 - #14

    That's hard to pin down, I know some investigators who believe his story and some who question it, what made it really hard is the time between when Maura disappeared and when he came forward with his sighting, I believe it was over 2 months later. Also the type of person Rick is makes it hard...
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    NH NH - Maura Murray, 21, Haverhill, 9 Feb 2004 - #14

    This is true and I completely agree that she very likely DID NOT GO into the woods in the area immediately around the crash site, the area that was searched. I tend to think that based on her behavior at the crash site and her apparent desire to get away from the crash site as quickly as...
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    NH NH - Maura Murray, 21, Haverhill, 9 Feb 2004 - #14

    Not to beat a dead horse but you have to understand that cadaver dogs are really not a reliable source to discount the presence of a dead body. Sometimes they work sometimes they don't. Again, look at cases I provided a few pages back where multiple cadaver dogs were unable to locate bodies...
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    NH NH - Maura Murray, 21, Haverhill, 9 Feb 2004 - #14

    I guess this is another area where I must disagree, based on many drives over that road at night. A hundred years ago when I was a cop South of the Notch and when we had to bring prisoners to the Grafton County Jail we would drive that road after dark many many many times, perhaps a hundred or...
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    NH NH - Maura Murray, 21, Haverhill, 9 Feb 2004 - #14

    It was a Red Cross telemarketing call, something like that. It was ruled out very early on in the investigation. I do tend to agree with others assessment of the Oxygen show, it started out fairly interesting but somewhere along the way it took a turn and became junk reality drama TV and...
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    NH NH - Maura Murray, 21, Haverhill, 9 Feb 2004 - #14

    So the fact that the police traced that phone call to a number other than Maura doesn't mean anything to you? It is absolutely amazing how factually incorrect people can be in the face of decades old facts. Wow
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    NH NH - Maura Murray, 21, Haverhill, 9 Feb 2004 - #14

    The search was not really what I would consider "exhaustive". There were several searches that I am aware of, I was on 2 of them. The first search was 2 days after she went missing and was primarily contained to the area surrounding the crash site and major roadways a few miles from there...
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    NH NH - Maura Murray, 21, Haverhill, 9 Feb 2004 - #14

    Alcohol plus sleeping pills plus hypothermia, that's a pretty effective way to kill oneself. The alcohol was not in the car, with the exception of the box of wine and what wine she was drinking in the coke bottle. The rest she (presumably) took with her. Again, when people suggest that the body...
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    NH NH - Maura Murray, 21, Haverhill, 9 Feb 2004 - #14

    One more thing I forgot, in addition to quite alot of alcohol that she took with her from the car, she also took several packets of sleeping pills with her. So she fled an accident scene, on foot, she intentionally avoided help from Butch, and the police, and she took a bunch of alcohol and...
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    NH NH - Maura Murray, 21, Haverhill, 9 Feb 2004 - #14

    Haha, I concur 100%. I tried to summarize but figured since I took the time to hammer out that junk I might as well get my money's worth and post it again. As a former criminal investigator I can tell you that no case is simple, no theory is fool proof, and what most people consider...
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    NH NH - Maura Murray, 21, Haverhill, 9 Feb 2004 - #14

    I wrote a fairly long and detailed post in the last thread, forgive me for copy/pasting it here but it is still my position on whether or not Maura may have walked into the woods and succumbed to the elements, either intentionally as in a planned suicide, or unintentionally as she may have had a...
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    NH NH - Maura Murray, 21, Haverhill, 9 Feb 2004 - #13

    Well said, I couldn't agree anymore. I believe that where the train jumps the tracks for the public in cases like this is when the information that is available is neither complete enough or exciting enough, this makes people hypothesize about what could have happened to fit certain theories...
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    NH NH - Maura Murray, 21, Haverhill, 9 Feb 2004 - #13

    A couple points as I read back in this thread. The reason that Strelzin was present is because in a very high profile case like this he would be the one and only person who would authorize anyone to speak as it is, as you say, an ongoing criminal investigation. What many people don't know is...
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    NH NH - Maura Murray, 21, Haverhill, 9 Feb 2004 - #13

    Thank you for the link, I listened to the podcast earlier. I admit I tend to agree with the assessment of the 2 hosts regarding the Oxygen series, they said that they were initially very interested in it and began watching it with the intent of discussing it on their own show but early on...
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    NH NH - Maura Murray, 21, Haverhill, 9 Feb 2004 - #13

    May I ask if you would care to elaborate? What factors make it unlikely that she may have gone into the woods? It's so funny that in some circles this is in fact the overwhelming opinion, so to hear someone else say it makes no sense or is almost impossible makes me curious. Thanks.
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    NH NH - Maura Murray, 21, Haverhill, 9 Feb 2004 - #13

    I agree, she likely left the accident scene on the roadway for some period of time, how long is impossible to know of course. I do think this possibility is fairly consistent with what we know of her state of mind immediately after the accident. She refused help from Butch, and she lied to...
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    NH NH - Maura Murray, 21, Haverhill, 9 Feb 2004 - #13

    That does not seem to be accurate, or at least is being disputed by the NHAG. Source: https://www.caledonianrecord.com/users/signup/?referer_url=http://www.caledonianrecord.com/news/network-overstates-claims-in-maura-murray-case/article_af43f5b2-791c-5e98-9f44-58187ede59bf.html I knew that as...
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    NH NH - Maura Murray, 21, Haverhill, 9 Feb 2004 - #13

    I completely concur, he is so far out in the wasteland I don't think even he believes what he says. The one thing that has really struck me about reading this case is how many insane theories still exist that have long ago been totally debunked. Even the Oxygen series was about 80%...
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    NH NH - Maura Murray, 21, Haverhill, 9 Feb 2004 - #13

    I have some thoughts that may help regarding the possibility, in my mind high probability, that she did indeed go into the woods and is somewhere up in that vast wilderness. A couple points that are very important to remember, and I will offer some facts that support my next sentence. A scent...

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