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    Verdict Watch Thread Saturday July 13

    Agreed. And I am a 56 year old white woman with three children in their 20s so maybe some of the jurors are thinking the same way I would. Someone asked what if it were our own 17 year old who was shot and killed? Well, that wouldn't happen to my kid, because when my son was 17 (or now...
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    Verdict Watch Thread Saturday July 13

    What do you call it someone jumps out and ambushes you after you lost sight of them?
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #5

    The rooms are $65 a night? In Los Angeles? That would be enough to tell me not to stay there.
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    Whitney Houston passed away on 2/11/12 - Part 2

    I thought Monique came across as really sensible and credible. Like she said, it was strange that they talked like having a drink was no big deal. Any addict knows a drug is a drug is a drug and if you are sober you don't touch ANY drug, including alcohol. They also mentioned having a...
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    Whitney Houston passed away on 2/11/12 - Part 2

    See, I had the opposite gut feeling. I thought Patricia seemed like a nice, sincere, grounded person who helped keep Whitney in line. In the pictures from the party, she seemed like she was there to protect Whitney and make sure she made it home (hotel) okay. So I was kind of shocked by what...
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    Whitney Houston passed away on 2/11/12 - Part 2

    They talked about this on one of the shows last night (Jane VM or Nancy Grace or Dr. Drew) - that addicts kind of keep themselves under control when they are at home and even use rehab has a way to not let themselves overdose and using it as a way to slow down, not stop, because they want to...
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    Whitney Houston passed away on 2/11/12 - Part 2

    There are pictures of him at the hotel with Clive Davis. Not sure if they were from that same day. But from what I understand he was at the hotel with Whitney for those four days and it was reported initially that he found her body, then his publicist immediately issued a statement that he...
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    Whitney Houston passed away on 2/11/12 - Part 2

    more conjecture on your part. nobody has said her heart "stopped". the autopsy says her lungs were fullof water - cause of death DROWNING. debate it with them? And nowhere did they say her lungs were "full of water" either. It sounds to me like you take what you want to believe...
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    Whitney Houston passed away on 2/11/12 - Part 2

    Please show me a link that says what the extent of her coronary artery disease (not coronary-arterial disease) was. And that it was caused by HARD LIVING! Drugs drugs drugs. They said that coronary artery disease (atherosclerosis) and cocaine use contributed to her death. They didn't say...
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    Whitney Houston passed away on 2/11/12 - Part 2

    I didn't hear ANYONE say the extent of her heart disease. No one has said. You said you were SHOCKED at the extent of her heart disease. What extent? FYI, all of us are killing ourselves with our diets. I didn't say Whitney's diet killed her. But I'm sure it contributed to her heart...
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    Whitney Houston passed away on 2/11/12 - Part 2

    more conjecture on your part. nobody has said her heart "stopped". the autopsy says her lungs were fullof water - cause of death DROWNING. debate it with them? You said in a post to me earlier that her death was due to extensive coronary artery disease from using drugs. That...
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    Whitney Houston passed away on 2/11/12 - Part 2

    Where did you see the "extent" of her coronary artery disease? It may surprise you, but these days even young people who have never used drugs have extensive coronary artery disease because of the way Americans eat. I talked to an ER doctor about this one time and said I am always shocked to...
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    Whitney Houston passed away on 2/11/12 - Part 2

    Not I'm not. The autopsy hasn't even been published. I'm going by reports of reporters who talked to the coroner's office after the cause of death was reported today. They said that Whitney used cocaine just prior to her death, because cocaine stays in your system a very short time, and...
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    Whitney Houston passed away on 2/11/12 - Part 2

    You know that note that Whitney gave Brandy? Since Brandy wouldn't reveal the contents, I always wondered if it was something about drugs - either asking about getting some, or inviting her to participate in using some, offering to celebrate her birth with some, or something. I mean, if the...
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    Whitney Houston passed away on 2/11/12 - Part 2

    Well hopefully now that Bobby Brown's sister has pointed the finger at Ray J on national TV, he will be investigated! And I agree with you. I think he was there when she died, knew she was dead, and knew he had to get out of there and get the drugs out of there. They said cocaine only lasts...
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    Whitney Houston passed away on 2/11/12 - Part 2

    SHOCKED (AND EXCITED) TO SEE THAT SOMEONE HAS PUBLICALLY POINTED THE FINGER AT RAY J! Bobby Brown's sister (and her kids) were on Dr. Drew and she said exactly what some of us have been thinking. She also said that she talked to the Beverly Hills PD about her suspicions. She says she DOES...
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    Whitney Houston passed away on 2/11/12 - Part 2

    Kind of like right after she died and someone talking to Ray J on the phone told the media that he told them he had found her, and then minutes later his publicist put out a statement saying he was "nowhere near" the hotel? I don't believe it...
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    Whitney Houston passed away on 2/11/12 - Part 2

    They say metabolites of cocaine were found and that means she not only used cocaine pretty soon prior to her death (cocaine doesn't stay in your system long), she also had used it leading up to that - because metabolites are what result when a substance is broken down (metabolized) by the body...

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