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    2011.02.21: Elisa Baker indicted for 2nd degree murder!!

    NC now has a program called "structured sentencing" that has no deviation allowed for sentencing and parole times. Here is a link to the actual way they will determine the sentence. If she is found guilty of aggravated 2nd degree murder, she will serve a sentence that will be given based...
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    2011.02.21: Elisa Baker indicted for 2nd degree murder!!

    Would it be possible to know ahead of time that charges would be brought today? I thought that grand jury was responsible for that decision and they did not meet until today.....unless they met last week and then again this morning. My interpretation of what was said on the news was that today...
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    2011.02.21: Elisa Baker indicted for 2nd degree murder!!

    It is possible in the future, I would think. I'm just really confused with the second aggravating factor that they listed...I guess once that is clarified it would be more clear whether or not they believe AB is involved. That throws a monkey wrench into what I was thinking about who knew and...
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    2011.02.21: Elisa Baker indicted for 2nd degree murder!!

    You are a much kinder person than I. I shudder to even think about what I would like to do if I had my way! I think I would be satisfied with throwing her in gen-pop with a bunch of women who desperately miss their babies and would give anything to be able to be with them. I need to ask...
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    2011.02.21: Elisa Baker indicted for 2nd degree murder!!

    I'm honestly not sure. I am going to see if I can find an actual copy of the indictment online. I paraphrased it, but understood it to mean that she hid Zahra both before and after the accused offense (murder) from family. However, I am definitely not legally savvy so it could mean just about...
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    2011.02.21: Elisa Baker indicted for 2nd degree murder!!

    I totally agree with you.......since I'm not allowed to change to the descriptors I would like to use, I edited the title to Elisa Baker.
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    2011.02.21: Elisa Baker indicted for 2nd degree murder!!

    If WSOC has a live feed, they are constantly talking about it on TV. I'm not sure if they do live news shoes on the web or not. Indictment also says that the victim was young, physically infirm and handicapped. Apparently that was listed underneath the aggravating factors, but from what I...
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    2011.02.21: Elisa Baker indicted for 2nd degree murder!!

    I don't really want to get OT but it just makes you wonder if he REALLY is as much of a stooge as he appears to be if she was able to dupe him THAT bad. Something just doesn't add up for me. Maybe the press conference will help.
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    2011.02.21: Elisa Baker indicted for 2nd degree murder!!

    This is what they just said on the news with the reporter who had a copy of the indictment in his hand. This is paraphrased as I didn't have time to transcribe his words verbatim..... Charge: Second degree murder. Aggravating factors: 1. The defendent (EB) had a history of violence...
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    Cause of Death and Time of Death, Thread #2 (Warning: Contains Graphic Content!)

    The noon news report at the beginning said that the local ME says there is a cause of death. The state ME still says he is waiting on toxicology results and they went to the ROD in the local county and the cause of death still lists "pending". However, I think with the indictment today of...
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    2011.02.21: Elisa Baker indicted for 2nd degree murder!!

    I live fairly locally and just now on the noon news (WSOC) they just announced that the grand jury indicted Elisa Baker for second degree murder. No details yet as this was breaking and they only mentioned it as a blurb.
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    NC - Delvonte Tisdale-Missing NC teen found mutilated outside Boston

    Our local newspaper just posted something that says they think he may have stowed away in the wheel wells of an airplane and fell out when they opened the doors upon approach for landing. Very very horrible situation, but may be a great explanation for how he made it so far so quickly. I...
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    Paperwork Details Elisa Baker’s Involvement In Investigation

    Ugh! Lemme get this straight.....because you admit to knowing where pieces of a 10-year-old precious girl's body are you should have a reduction in your current bond instead of an added charge for desecration of a corpse and potential revocation of bond? Stupid does not even begin to explain...
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    Casey and Family Psych Profile #11

    I do not think there is any way that Casey has anything so serious as MPD. I think plain and simple she is a sick sick "woman" as a result of her twisted, manipulative and permissive maternal unit. Sometimes I almost find myself feeling sorry for the little girl that she once was having to...
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    GUILTY KS - Alicia DeBolt, 14, Great Bend, 21 August 2010 - #2

    I feel sure someone may have posted this before, but just in case I will post a link to an article "verifying" they are one and the same. This article shows that a spokesman for the Texas Dept of Criminal Justice confirmed they were the same person. Is this local newspaper considered credible...
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    CA CA - Mitrice Richardson, 24, Malibu, 17 Sep 2009

    Funny that no one has even mentioned this before now! The whole situation reeks to high heaven. They are morally culpable even if not criminally or civically so. To find out that this had even been a known issue with a suitable resolution makes it even more disgusting to me!!! I sincerely...
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    GUILTY KS - Alicia DeBolt, 14, Great Bend, 21 August 2010 - #2

    How horrible for this young girl and her family. How nonsensical for this woman to be so insecure and so in need of companionship that she neglected the needs of her family AND her community and enticed a criminal into the community in order to meet her self-esteem needs. When are we as women...
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    Possible Sexual Relationship Between DeDe and Terri?

    Admittedly I have not read through this entire thread on the sexual connection, so I'm not sure if there has ever been any substantiation on the previous allegation of KH and TH being involved with the swinger lifestyle. If that is an inappropriate direction for this to continue, I apologize...
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    GA - Children Found Living in Filth

    I tried to post this yesterday, but I think I'm too new to start new threads. It amazes me that they were able to get away with this for so long. I heard on HLN last night that they could literally see lice crawling in one of the daughter's hair without even trying to check her for them. It...
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    CA CA - Mitrice Richardson, 24, Malibu, 17 Sep 2009

    I believe they asked him shortly after she went missing for identification purposes if and when they were able to find her. I think his refusal was dumb, but I'm also not a black man in LA who is suspicious of the police---so I really cannot put myself in his shoes as far as that decision goes...

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