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Could even be a mark from her finger trying to pry his hands off. I mentioned this before because she has a finger cut that isn't explainable, but could be from cutting it on his watch band at her neck. This would also explain why he has no cuts or bruises if he strangled her from behind.

Reminds me of the mark on Jonbenets neck. Garroting. Although it could be from him trying to strangle her from the back and his watchband making a mark. Very circular though..looks like a blood blister from wringing his shirt around her using the tension against her neck knotted at the front...

Thanks for that! I was racking my computers capacity to find the link with the official named. Still open to the possibility that girls go missing in Colombia and it may not make the headlines...

Mmmm...really it was not fully explained how and when Van der Sloot crossed the border. a focus on women disappearing in casinos in Colombia would go a lot further than implications of a serial killer from Aruba. Read this article, I am still looking for the one that names the representative...

Hid email on the frozen poker account was circa March of this year ( IIRC) I will have to look back for certainty.

LOL. Once they are exposed there is no escape.

LOL, I am looking for them now, They're in my crafting stuff! and on that note I am signing off :) thanks for the tip!

In my humble opinion he knew what he was going to do. She was a big winner, she had a car, she was a woman going up to his private hotel room. The walls were soundproof. His moves were lethal. ( My ex husband, a cop taught me one move to kill a person- shove their nose into their forehead with...

You know I never thought of that, but they may have been pearl shell. They have yellowed with age and it was before plastic so I know for sure they aren't modern- Grandma was born in 1902. Someone suggested ivory and I always stuck with that but she never told us specifically. I have to keep...

They looked to be at ease in the casino. She was comfortable enough to sit at a table with him after meeting him initially on the 27th. He wasn't a great poker player, she probably wasn't worried about him because she looked like an athletic type and was also a soccer player. I don't know what...

disclaimer...I used to be innocent before I started reading crime forums.

they could have been noted as hers if Joran brought them up to the room to use after he moved her car, and the fingerprints on them are from her and an unidentified person ( g/f).

She had dropped two girlfriends off at their homes several hours earlier. El Comercio, citing a police report, said she sent a text message to one to tell her she was "walking up the stairs to my bedroom." Guardia said he could not confirm the report. http://www.whatsonxiamen.com/news12604.html

O/T, no, but I know what " going down" is. O I am bad....

Good question, still looking for the earlier version of that message.

Have to look for a link but right after she was discovered it was in print that the message was " going up stairs to my bedroom".

I was thinking maybe one of her girlfriends is a smoker ( Asiabrasil already pointed this out ) and maybe the lighters were in her possession in the car and Joran brought them up and discarded them. But the reason why she would have them in the first place ( if she isn't a smoker ) was to light...

I hope he doesn't. something about him tells me that he is too much of a coward to even take his own life. Moo....

I'm sure they checked them for fingerprints in which case they might not be mentioning who they belong to, but they were in her possessions so they are mentioned as hers. Remember Joran moved the car once at the request of management at the hostel. He could have brought things in and left them...

There are internet cafes in that area $3.00 an hour. So if she had no computer handy she was savvy enough to pop in to a cafe and check her online stuff. Maybe she had an app on her phone, too.