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    Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #62

    I wanted to reply to a post before the thread closed but missed it. Strangulation in WY does allow for strangulation deaths to be consider pee-mediated. If strangulation is committed during a felony domestic violence charge (or other felonies) it is eligible to considered first degree...
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    Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #61

    You have a lot more than 20 seconds of consciousness when being strangled by an attacker especially if you are fighting.
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    Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #61

    I think Gabby died the 28th.MOO There are NO sightings of either of them that day aside someone seeing the van parked in that spot. I think they were out camping, a fight happened and the incident occurred perhaps later in the day. BL likely went back to the van to come up with a "plan" which...
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    Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #61

    <modsnip> (Found Deceased - WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #46). Going to bring my post from a couple of weeks ago forward. Victims who have been choked once are 750 percent more likely to be killed by their abusers. ALL LE must evaluate for any...
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    GUILTY NM - Sasha Marie Krause, 27, murdered, Farmington, 18 Jan 2020 *arrests*

    Did anyone catch what happened today? There was a two hour “lunch” with the defense mentioning something about “ethics” prior and the judge saying they needed to handle that so lunch would be extended. Then defense returned and just rested their case - dismissing the jury two hours early...
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    Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #55

    <modsnip> I grew up in poverty. We had no shelter a lot of the time. I know a thing or two about living off the land. It's not romantic and I assure you I and most others didn't starve to death. When it's do it or die - you really don't have option and you figure it out. Survival instincts...
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    Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #55

    Humans have lived off the land forever. Without running water. Without "showers" or clean clothes. I have to wonder why it's questionable to people here that someone could do it especially if your life was on the line. If this man did it from the ages of 7-19 years old I think BL could manage...
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    Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #52

    In all fairness, they are putting up with their lives being completely disrupted for the media to get their "scoop". I'd charge them too.
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    Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #51

    I'm really curious as to how many times you've hiked the AT because that ^^^ is not at all the culture IME. The culture along the AT is more "who you were you aren't now". The fugitive well known along the Appalachian trail
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    Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #46

    INAL but from what I've seen in previous cases the file is handled behind the scenes as far as "suspect is deceased". There may be some more investigation but typically not a lot unless something can be gained from digging deep (ie; think Timothy McVeigh - thoroughly investigating that was...
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    Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #46

    Ummm. Wouldn't the FBI have their own experts involved?
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    Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #46

    I don't care who owns the van. It's completely irrelevant. You don't say "lets take a walk and cool off" and then jump in the van with the keys, phones and possessions as if you are going to drive away. That is not de-escalation - it is threatened abandonment (which is an illegal form of...
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    Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #46

    SBM I agree with all of this. It's extremely common that female victims of domestic abuse do not disclose to fathers or brothers because they are scared of how they will respond out of "protectiveness". They don't want their father or brother to go after their partner and land in jail. It's...
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    Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #46

    IMO and IME, POSSIBLY. I won't claim to be an 'expert' but I do work in the field. Sorry this is long but I've been wanting to get it out and this question has been asked 100x and I have minute so here you go - The officer was seriously mistaken in the legal definition of "Primary...
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    Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #46

    IME, Yep! It's a great manipulation tool down the road "I went to jail for you." or "I had to go to jail because of you."
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    Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #43

    IMO the phone purchased this month is not a burner if it's registered to his name. That's contradictory to what a burner is.
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    Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #43

    K9's are picking up on tiny skin cells, glands, sweat and possibly hormones that are unique to an individual. They aren't going to confuse two peoples unique scents. They are given a scent with an item that has high concentration (such as pillow case, shirt, underwear). They go with the...
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    GUILTY NM - Sasha Marie Krause, 27, murdered, Farmington, 18 Jan 2020 *arrests*

    I don't think the prosecution is doing a good job of proving MG did this at all. I knew the trial would be very circumstantial but I didn't realize it would also have a bunch of holes all over. - Testimony yesterday said SK's phone stopped pinging in Towaoc, CO not at all the same route that...
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    GUILTY NM - Sasha Marie Krause, 27, murdered, Farmington, 18 Jan 2020 *arrests*

    MOO I think it's likely the family has asked this to be clarified and highlighted. As it's not part of the accusations against him - prosecution and defense may have agreed to make sure it was made publicly clear for the family. It's something that would be extremely important to them with...

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