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It's a brand, they make other equipment but they also make the machine called a Caterpillar. The way it was said "Caterpillar incident" not bite, but I don't know how he could injure himself on a caterpillar unless he walked into it or was climbing up on it and fell. My son in law fixes them...

Forgive me for butting in, perhaps they are referring to Caterpillar as in the large machinery.

True, there's always another way too look at it.

Exactly, but it appears only Gerard's happiness was always upmost in their minds, and still is. They were probably happy for him to move on and hopefully one day find someone how would provide him with a son to carry on the name they are so proud of. Perhaps when Allison didn't produce the heir...

I wonder who the rat in the ranks is who leaked the email to the press. Presumably, they would have only sent those emails to people they trusted.

At times I feel sorry for the BC's, they would never have imagined being thrust into a nightmare like this, then I think, no, if they had told the truth and been co operative with the police they would have the same relationship the Dickies have with the police. There would be no surprise...

Hi Susan these were my thoughts too, if PDSC's first few lines are anything to go by it looks like it is in fact HE, who has the weak case and extra time would suit him just fine, not to mention he likes the money so having to appear again today would suit him too.

Yes, I heard it on NG but I have not seen any new letters anywhere.

A very clear photo of AB's T shirt. "VENGENCE" Indeed Mr Baker, VENGENCE shall be Zahra's! Soon I hope.

No I have not seen the preview but Sunday, the only news content on Sunday is 60mins Channel 9

I can't wait for her grey roots to grow out in jail and then we will see how old she looks.

If it is indeed Zahra's Mum who is posting information about herself, she says Yes, he was abusive.

33 adresses, and isn't that odd, it's said that 3 is the liars number. Here's another number I find odd 42. Perhaps it's the drug use but she looks 52. Ive wondered if she lied about her age because Adam would think 50 plus was too old. It didn't appear that he ever lived an independant life...

I agree, I think they had both lost touch with reality. the virtual life and the drugs and alcohol. It must have been terrifying for Zahra.

I can't help Beagle, its taken me a few days to find my way here.

Yeah, shush. This is a bit scarey, I really have to read those rules.

Thank you nana, also for the warm welcome. I wondered why there was no talk of him because I am sure you all have theories. Zip

I think Elisa Baker killed Zahra, either through rage or sheer neglect. They worked together to clean up and dispose and he operated the machinery.

Exactly, the mention of the equipment, it was in his mind that he had used the equipment. I hope the furries will be fine.

I saw at the beginning of the threads it says no sluething the london Guy. Does this mean we don;t speak about him?