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Maybe its just me, but if I am a guy that has hundreds of acres of remote TN woods that 2 guys I h ave known my whole life, and its pretty much common knowledge that they are criminals, and they hang out in my woods on a regular basis, and they get charged with kidnapping and murder and everyone...

So frustrating to think so much time and effort goes into figuring out what happened and in the end most of the time we find out the perp was really simple and not very smart at all. Most criminals in my opinion really are not very intelligent though. I would bet that once the evidence in...

I wonder what type of method or technology they can use to search for buried remains. Dogs would be my guess. Ground penetrating radar would be slow on such a large area. At the least the distance an animal would drag a bone. IMO not very far but even 50 yards in every direct is alot of...

does anyone know if 10pm central or eastern time?

Just an observation, but I 40 is going to act as a man made watershed devide, so for the most part and you can see from google maps all the creeks and waterways that might be able to carry remains downstream would have taken this away from the highway so its hard to believe that this is not at...

Can not stop wondering why ZA said "he is the one that started all this", talking about his brother. I can't help thinking that this whole situation fits together much more nicely if DA, who may have known Holly and or had some kind of relationship with her, is the kidnapper, ie she leaves...

IF it is possible to recover a copy of it, LE will, no question. And so many electronic devices save your media to a cloud based storage. If it was out there being passed around, chances are high IMO that it was cached somewhere. IMO this is positive news. The worry IMO would be that in...

Just a general comment to everyone here, I think we are going to see the why go hand and foot with the how in this case. If, and I also feel uneasy about LE and DA handling of this so far, DA has a strong case on the how, the why will become more clear. We may not ever really know the why...

If HS is correct in her ID of ZA, that shows a pattern, like ZA was out to kidnap an attractive female...I may be grasping for straws, but what else is there motive wise that we know for sure?

From the impression I get of the lawyer, he may actually be encouraging this behavior to swing public opinion in JA's favor. Just a thought.

I don't really see how TC in any way "hindered" LE in there investigation either. The whole incident to me was LE grasping at straws. Can anyone point me to an action he took that interfered with the search and or investigation of this crime other than he captured some of the limelight at the...

That's possible.

Not to make light, whatever happened, LE believe or have evidence that Holly didn't live though the experience...

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Really wondering why ZA said about DA, "he's the one that started all this..." Maybe that's what is missing here

Wouldn't the law consider the entire time Holly was held against her will to be "during the commission of" or "all inclusive" kidnapping, and not just the time 30 minutes or so that the actual physical taking of her from her house occurred. I may have missed something, but if LE is charging that...

Ok, but if Heather Sullivan was also attacked by ZA, and she did ID him as doing so, does she also have connection to the gang? Also it seems completely out of character for her to have been involved with them. Not saying your wrong, but I think its a harder connection to make.

I agree, I don't think this person would get any better deal if he said JA or SA were seen at ZA's house with Holly unless they actually were, even if he was scared that JA, being "lifelong" friends with ZA, as a member of a prison gang, JA is just as dangerous inside prison as out. IMO JA is...

I think the thing that supports this idea is the positive ID from HS that ZA attempted to grab her in Jan or Feb of 2011. I think its very likely that he acted alone in the initial kidnapping aspect, and that JA and SA joined in after the fact and where involved in the murder and disposal. Its...

Offend??? Let me just add, don't forget waving and smiling after the hearing was over, in a classic display of lack of empathy. I also think we may see some of the main players turn on each other "especially if" after the defense lawyers tell them the stories of the key witnesses, those...