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Oh! So that's what she meant by checking on him? Makes sense.

Did Lori actually text that to Chad (that nobody cared about the kids)? I think you're right with your assessment. I also think that Lori was the one motivated by money and wanting a life in Hawaii while Chad was most motivated by a life with her. You know the day she paid any attention to him...

Was that text shown in Chad's trial or Lori's? Is there a place where all of the texts are published?

And not knowing when to cut your losses.

I wonder where Alex got his money. He traveled all over, stayed in hotels, rented apartments and drove vehicles (did have his own?). That all takes money and not just a little.

Thank you so much and I do read Nate, watch some testimony, watch some Hidden True Crime and read here. There's so much information and so many players that I still get goofed up!

I totally get what you're saying and Mormons might be far less vulnerable to some cult from outsiders.

I'm not a Mormon and you would know more than I would. I get what you're saying about the culture of trust but see it as within the religion. What I meant about their culture is what a non Mormon, moving to Utah, would likely find appealing. Polite, good work ethic, family oriented, clean...

Mormons are famous for being into healthy living and prepping, which a lot of people, who are not Mormons, admire and respect, myself included. It's the religion (not the culture) that, I think, primes people to be vulnerable to cult thinking because Mormons have secret rituals, special...

He heard from another sibling that Joe and Emma believe Lori and Alex are responsible, Chad was sucked in, and Alex buried the kids when Chad wasn't home That's exactly what I've thought from the time I saw the 48 HRS or whatever show it was. They're all traumatized. As weird a personality as...

Yes, I was greatly relieved that the sweet doggie escaped being murdered, too.

He also lost his dog.

And, so sorry to ask about phone locations considering all of the testimony but was Alex's phone pinged at Chad's on the 9th?

I doubt he knew. Lori probably told him that Tylee was off with friends or at school.

Yes, I'm sorry, I got the kids' last sighting mixed up. Tylee was last seen on the 9th? And JJ on the 22nd or 23rd? So, where was Tylees body if she wasn't buried until the 23rd?

When you say "each of those days", what dates? I'm asking bc I figured JJ was buried there on a different day but I don't think it's been addressed much or what day that might have been.

What a nutcase! What was his reasoning for trying to stop the trial?

Plus, he allegedly showered before going to BYU to write and was back in under two hours from the raccoon text.

Elizabeth Smart's kidnapper, too.

I get confused about what dates and phone locations are being talked about. I need visuals. It seems three dates are significant: Raccoon text day and when Tylee was likely burned and buried. The date Tammy was shot at. The date Tammy was killed. Also, does anyone have any idea on when JJ was...