I apologize for the shape this is in! These were very rough notes and I heard part of PB's call but wasn't able to take notes at the time.
He’s the sweetest 5 year old boy you’ll ever meet. A little something extra there with him. Gets compliments from strangers on his eye lashes.
Momma – freckles came from momma
This little piggy on his toes
Very outgoing, loves making friends, loves all of his family
Almost positive, he wants to be like his Daddy when he grows up
He’s a goofball, he’s so silly, he’ll have you in tears
I wish everyone could have been met him
He’s a fighter, he fought for his life
I’m literally stuck in limbo. Going through a living hell. Support system? There’s been a dozen or more random strangers reached out to her and lied, speculations
JO has Brother and SIL.
JO left KC to move to Oklahoma with her best friend. Less than 24 hours, she got a call from Wichita Police Dept.
Very last thing she said to her boy – Everything was going to be okay, Momma’s gonna get it taken care of. That’s hard and it’s gonna eat at me for the rest of my life. Nobody thinks it’s going to happen to them. It feels like I’m living what I watch on the news every evening.
There’s nothing that can be done now that’s going to bring my boy back.
Are you giving up hope? You don’t know me, you don’t know the back story…day 2 here – once I saw the whole block, barricaded off – that is the very day I accepted it – Lucas is not with us any longer.
Wichita called me first; Emily was trying to pin it on me. They wanted to know where I was.
Got a ride from someone on Craigslist – 5AM the next morning – the next call I got was the FBI.
I’m not shocked FBI was there in 2 hours.
There were several reports filed with child services. Why they were dismissed, I can’t tell you.
First time I seen it was when my son was dropped off in filthy clothes, 2 black eyes and bruises all over his body. What did he say? Emily didn’t like him.
During all this time, did you ever talk to jonathan. Definitely, I reached out to his ex-stepmother and finally got ahold of jonathan. He fell off the back of the couch, then found out jonathan wasn’t even there.
Every single picture we’ve seen online, I took every single one.
How did she and Jonathan meet? I can’t remember what month or year. After Jonathan and I broke up, we continued to see each other. It was hot out, may, june, july. Spent the weekend in NM, right then Emily was in his life. She came along with trash bags of clothes.
Jonathan took the first thing that came along. He could have just as easily had enrolled in NM, he and I were on good terms. 50/50 custody of Lucas, but at Jonathan’s discretion. I was going through deep **** at the time.
I knew they fought constantly. There was always something going on – she was always in a ****** mood, saying stuff to me. I don’t know her. I don’t know anything about her. She has no friends. All the information you have gathered on her is probably more than I know. I didn’t know that she didn’t have custody of her children. I had no idea. And then the police reports came out and I had no idea it was that bad. Jonathan’s a c%$ksucker but he has never hit me.
Definitely Jonathan defending himself. I’ve known jonathan for years. We talked for 1 -2 years before we ever met in person. I asked him, “What does she have on you?” And it’s not something small, because he’s not stupid by any means.
There’s one thing I need to know. A location.
Absolutely. We all know who the accomplice would be, which is the cousin, Kristin. That’s the only other person she talked to, she had no friends.
The fb groups and everything. She literally makes up lies to try to push blame on me and take it off Emily.
I don’t think about it. I know he’s gone. I just want my boy.
She’s lazy. No more than 100 ft from a roadway. FBI did their own analysis.
Search efforts? If not every day, then several times a week. I can no longer attend because if I were to come across something, I don’t know how it would be portrayed. I am in limbo right now. I don’t know what to do. I don’t want to be here, but it doesn’t feel right to leave her without my boy.
No one ever expects something like this to happen to them. What would you do? You don’t think about that. First thought in your mind isn’t probably going to be homicide. I haven’t been homicidal. Only because I block out everything. I’m scared to death I won’t come back from that.
Allegedly back in February. Emily’s ex – it was alleged that jh had been physical with one of the boys. So, Jonathan’s charged with misd battery, able to OR out. I feel it’s more so by the state that he’s
You have no idea. I have nothing but respect for the FBI. WPD all about finding Lucas and bringing Lucas home.
Anything you want to tell us? Anything that you’ve heard that’s of concern to you? This is all started back in may grandfather’s funeral when I first saw the marks, lucas was sick all the times I couldn’t get him. Lucas wasn’t sick – Lucas had bruises.
I do not believe Jonathan had any part of this whatsoever. Other than the fact that he is now well aware that Lucas is gone and he knows exactly that one person is responsible for it and who that is.
They were both given polys the night eg was taken in. jh passed with flying colors, Emily on the other hand – she tried telling them that she exchanged (gifts? Kid?) with JO on VD. I was not even aware they moved. I have a rock solid alibi where I was, who I was with.
I would never expect jh to put lh in harm’s way. Jh is innocent, the only thing is guilty of is being a dumb sob, honestly. I don’t know what she has over him, but she has something and it’s gotta be huge, because he loves that boy.
JH’s efforts, other than welcoming his quote unquote wife home, something about a PI, we all want to know, what’s going to make her crack at this point, I honestly don’t know. I hope she goes through the pain I go through every day not getting to see her children.
EG’s family – as much as I’ve already said, her family doesn’t want **** to do with her. JH – she convinced him to do the same with his.
My hands were tied because jh cut off his family . First report Actually Emily’s family.?
Some kind of conversation, promise not to do it again kind of conversation
A year ago, 6 months ago reported – why would jh have a hard time with someone else (family) standing up for his son? Q: for example, you had mentioned that jh cut off his family due to cps calls,. Why do you think jh would have a problem with that? Think hed want people to keep an eye out for his son.
A; not so much that he had a problem with that, but more so the fact, sorry, had a brain fart. He took them away, he thought drame; Eg manipulative – she can get him to do whatever it is she wants. He makes good money, why are they always broke? Do you think it has to do with drugs? Absolutely.
What I can say for fact. EG has admitted face to face to JO herself of a previous heroin use. As far as JO is concerned, he would drink quite a bit but sober since last October. Other than alcohol, marijuana. Moo, and makes sense to me. First time I seen jonathan, 6 hour long conversation and one point I looked him in the eye and said you know he murdered our boy and he broke down in agreement and he knows. He looked same way he did when he went through his divorce.
Jonathan always had thin facial features according to family. JO _ he looked exactly like he did the first they met – after his divorce – sunken in cheeks. I don’t want to speculate.
Other than the drinking, marijuana.
What are JH”s thoughts about
6 hour conversation – night EG was arrested – she 72 psych hold – 3 days me and JH were on the same page – EG guilty. After hold lifted, she was able to contact JH and JO hasn’t heard much from him since. 3 months
I felt absolute disgust that JH would take EG back.
Indicated that you were going to kidnap Lucas. Yep,had it all set up. 3, 4, 5 people knew. Got to the FBI because she. I told the FBI the same thing. Came from the last report
JH’s step-mother (Beej) if nothing came about, she would personally take Lucas to NM and call pd and have herself arrested so there would be a case open.
150% child abuse
What about Mia? She’s okay because that’s HERS.
Grandfather’s funeral: that am eg stopped by, and her cousin Kristin in passenger seat, lucas filthy, not wearing clothes that anyone should be wearing to a funeral. Noticed the bruising just before getting in the car. EG dropped him off real quick, unbuckled lucas and she took off. She didn’t want him…noticed the black eyes in bedroom, but running late, hurried up and got in the car. Inspected lucas over there…def not expecting to see…called El Dorado police dept – they refused to look at him. Got ahold of jh, had eg turn around and come back and pick Lucas up…jh just freaked out…didn’t even know I called the police.
He definitely knew something was going on. JH is in some freaking serious denial I’ve never seen in anyone in my whole life.
Search efforts – two groups for sure, don’t think it’s daily, but sev times a week. All are in close communication with wpd and txeq, but haven’t spoken with tim in a long time now. Lost a lot of hope when they left.
Cadaver dogs – I was not even aware that they moved until wpd called and said her son had wandered off.
Complete, thorough investigation – Oh, absolutely. Just because I didn’t witness with my own eyes…I don’t doubt that one bit…they did everything they needed to do and more.
The first day…I accepted it…my boy is no longer with it. Drive down street…blocked off two blocks, lights going off everywhere…and I lost it.
What has jonathan’s search efforts/has he hired a PI? I don’t even know why he’s doing it. Only one person knows they know for a fact.
EG stopped replying to her emails. JO was emailing her. EG’s first message just said dot dot dot. The weather’s getting warmer now, can you please just tell me something? Dot dot dot second one, begging her and eg said you can speak with my attorney,
Scheduled a video visitation with eg which she has cancelled. I have not given up and I’m not going away. I can stir the pot more than she can ever imagine, but I cannot move on with my life mentally, physically. It’s the worst thing a mother could feel. He’s just a baby to me still, he’s just 5 years olc.
The guilt I feel now, I will feel for the rest of my life. I didn’t do the one thing I was supposed to do as a mother, I couldn’t do it. Crying…
CALLERS:
Misty Cox – Let jo know we support her 100 percent and I made a promise that we would do everything. I love you, sweetheart. JO – you’ve been awesome.
Absolutely loved school, mrs allen and she loved him just as much
Great kid, no problem making friends
He absolutely loved being a little brother to his big sister holly…
Loved to help cook, clean, crafts,
Freckles & attitude from his momma
We almost lost lucas at birth, feels like we’re re-living the same nightmare again
He’s been a fighter his whole damn life
He is such a goofball; he is so goofy
Done with callers/question online: can you confirm where jh was? Didn’t call jh until about 2 hours later. Eg had cut off all lines of communication between jo and jh –arrangments through eg only.
Asked jh if he could take 2 hour detour; actually was more pissed that jo was contacted first. Eg had wpd; jh said he can open doors; jh, you and I both know he didn’t wander off especially without socks and shoes.
Didn’t learn until later on he had changed jobs; might have been texas, might have been nm. About a 12 hour trip away.
