17 yo Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #21

[waltzingmatilda]

Attys interview on TODAY.

http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/47014313#47014313

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Detroit clergy, activists rally over Trayvon case

Clergy, activists hold rally at Detroit church over Trayvon Martin killing, teacher's firing

Published On: Apr 10 2012 07:55:03 PM EDT Updated On: Apr 10 2012 07:57:31 PM EDT

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/...case/-/1719418/10450416/-/q23qrs/-/index.html

Good morning, peeps. I had to get away from the case after Nancy Grace last night and have not seen any of this morning's shows with the ex-lawyers for GZ. I skimmed the overnight posts and will check in throughout the day.

 

[LambChop]

I do think the attorney's attempts yesterday were to get GZ to call them. To show him they still believe in him and want him to contact them. WE, don't like what they had to say but GZ might realize he needs to contact them and that they do support him. Although I think the 7-11 and Coke thing was a little much. jmo

 

[Concerned Papa]

This entire deal with yesterday's press conference is mentally insulting.

Haven't talked to your poor, downtrodden, unjustly accused client in a day and a half........so you drop him?

There's something else at play here. You can count on it.

 

[Marshmallow]

I just went and checked out Mr Zimmerman's web site and in my nonprofessional opinion he stopped talking to his attys because they were setting up a donation acct and were going to control it. He sounds almost childishy about it. I think he sees himself as a hero andcan't get that only a handful agree. I think he's dangerous, I see him losing it again and harming another wrongdoer(in his eyes). I still think he thinks himself smarter than LE and can't understand why they never saw it too.

 

[grammieto5]

IF TM was shot, while on top of GZ ,as the attorneys said yesterday I would think that GZ would have a lot of blood on him

I thought the same thing when I saw how clean he and his clothes looked when he was being escorted by the police.


Jenny I read your blog. What an inspiration you are

 

[Sensei]

Why the 72 hours? That's what I want to know? What do they need in the next 72 hours that they don't have now? George?

perhpas she is going to be a bit more compassionate and will let Trayvons family know the entire results of her investigation so that they do not have to hear it all on the spot, Just a thought IMO JMHO and stuff.

At least that is what I would hope.

 

[passionflower]

very interesting indeed, very strict and 'negative' ????
I don't even want to think about what is happening.
Is she expecting allot of trouble?
Where is GZ????

 

[LynnM]

This entire deal with yesterday's press conference is mentally insulting.

Haven't talked to your poor, downtrodden, unjustly accused client in a day and a half........so you drop him?

There's something else at play here. You can count on it.

At first I thought it must be a desperate attempt at CYA because they didn't want to be blamed if George talked to the prosecutor and caused damage to his defense and/or because they couldn't produce George in the event of an imminent arrest since they don't know exactly where he is. Their talk about his instability seemed to support that.

Now, however, it seems like they are still trying to woo him back so I wonder if George isn't in talks with a very high profile attorney and they are upset because he didn't sign the contract with them.

 

[annalia]

GZ's attys sent him a message during the TODAY interview that went something like this...

'George, if you need us, call us. If you don't need us, call us and let us know that too.'
So I guess they haven't heard from him.

moo

wm

BBM

And they need to do this on national tv? They couldn't just leave him a voicemail? Send him an email? Use his new website to send him a message?

It's just too odd that they claimed they haven't heard from GZ when they said the last time they spoke to him was on Sunday, they had their big media extravaganza on Tuesday, so it was one day that they didn't hear from him?

They were trying to distance themselves and CYA for a reason.
Seems like the biggest compliant last night, among people on the various shows, was that they threw their client under the bus. Attorneys should never divulge things that they divulged about GZ, makes one think that they needed to protect themselves from something.

Or they just needed the media spotlight one more time so they can get more future media gigs.


JMHO

 

[cityslick]

I will agree with Gregaros that the lawyers talking about GZ's mental state is very poor form. For two people that are seemingly supposed to defend him, they did more harm to his case yesterday than anything. Like Toobin on CNN said, why would they even need to call a presser, they could of just called the SP discretely and said they are off the case.

It begs the question, how much were they ever 'his' lawyers? Did GZ actually retain them? When they were going on these talk shows, were they speaking what he wanted them to say or were they just going off what they read in the media, similar to if one of us got up there, said we were his lawyer and started talking?

Something is not right, and this goes for the website too. I'm beginning to trust less and less what these two lawyers say, to the point where I'm starting to question how connected they ever were to GZ. Is the website truly GZ? We've only heard from them that it is.

 

[passionflower]

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/ne...erman-is-isolated-and-stressed-attorneys-say/
last part talks about the 72 hours

 

[imamaze]

Just a reminder...

We are allowing MSM links only, some blogs and social links but only with approval from Admins. Thank you.

Ima

 

[mysteriew]

it makes no sense that Mr Zimmerman's not-my-attys are still all over my tv and still stirring things up. In some ways it seems to me that they want a riot type situation

IMO it sounds like the attorneys are trying to bring him in line. It sounds like they are still willing to rep him. But they want guarentees from him.... no more contacting media, no more online contacts. Be available to the attorneys.

His erratic behaviors, his leaving the state, his not taking legal advise seriously, being out of contact..... I'm wondering if perhaps there isn't some fear of him being suicidal. Announcing that he is 'out of contact' I think they are hoping someone will turn him in.

Anybody know if anyone is 'out of state' with him?

 

[LambChop]

I will agree with Gregaros that the lawyers talking about GZ's mental state is very poor form. For two people that are seemingly supposed to defend him, they did more harm to his case yesterday than anything. Like Toobin on CNN said, why would they even need to call a presser, they could of just called the SP discretely and said they are off the case.

It begs the question, how much were they ever 'his' lawyers? Did GZ actually retain them? When they were going on these talk shows, were they speaking what he wanted them to say or were they just going off what they read in the media, similar to if one of us got up there, said we were his lawyer and started talking?

Something is not right, and this goes for the website too. I'm beginning to trust less and less what these two lawyers say, to the point where I'm starting to question how connected they ever were to GZ. Is the website truly GZ? We've only heard from them that it is.

Guessing here, but I'm thinking RZ hired them and RZ did most of the talking so since they had no "formal" agreement with GZ they feel they are free to talk. jmo

 

[LambChop]

I meant it in terms of someone asking if it could be considered aiding and abetting. I don't see how it could if they were giving the money to help with his defense, that is what his website says its for legal defense and living expenses.

Ima

I don't think SA would go after anyone. Only proof they would have that someone sent him money to get away is if GZ emailed them and said he was trying to get out of the country and needed an airline ticket and some ID. jmo

 

[Sensei]

This entire deal with yesterday's press conference is mentally insulting.

Haven't talked to your poor, downtrodden, unjustly accused client in a day and a half........so you drop him?

There's something else at play here. You can count on it.

I agree, first I think that GZ did not want his Father to be the one in charge of the money, since the Attorneys made it pretty clear that when they set up the website that Mr. Z senior was the person who had to bank account that the paypal would funnel into, not them. GZ set up one that he would be able to get the money himself. I also do think that they are setting up to be sure that if this does go to an arrest they can make an argument that GZ was too injured, concussion or too mentally impaired and confused due to having his head hit hard to give a reliable statemtent on the night of the incident, and suffering from PTSD in any subsequent statements, in the event that the two don't match.

I still say there is something wrong with the location of the supposed gashes, contusions or whatever on the video we have seen. How do you get damage there if someone is hitting your head against the ground or floor?

The only way you get damage there is if they are holding you by your feet IMO JMHO and stuff.

 

[HiHater]

GZ made statements to the prosecutor that he wants to handle the case himself...according to Craig Sonner at the Today Show video link...

Wow.

It seems like the attorneys are pretty desperate to keep him as a client. I wonder why, if not for self-serving reasons...

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

...Now, however, it seems like they are still trying to woo him back so I wonder if George isn't in talks with a very high profile attorney and they are upset because he didn't sign the contract with them.

Respectfully edited. GZ knows that this is a high-profile case that will garner tremendous media coverage. He has very likely been contacted by or has contacted several media-savvy lawyers and is weighing his options. Mark NeJames little "earphone fell out" ploy when he was asked if GZ had contacted him was laughable as I feel certain that he has already considered getting involved in the case. And, of course, it was no big surprise that Mark Garagos and Jose Baez were also front and center last night on CNN. Methinks the ex-lawyers are pizzed that they aren't getting the nod. :moo:

 

[tlcya]

"Oh, my God. This is just a train wreck of proportions I don't even know where to begin," said Mark Geragos, a prominent defense attorney "Who are you to be diagnosing your client's mental state when you haven't talked to him? This is inexplicable. ... I don't like to second-guess other lawyers in the eye of the storm. But this is frankly one of the most outrageous things I've witnessed."
http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/11/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html?hpt=ju_c2