Dr.Fessel
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You got to remember too, this is where his dad was a judge.How would they remember if he was the offender or the victim?
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You got to remember too, this is where his dad was a judge.How would they remember if he was the offender or the victim?
I won't even start up on the whole issue of them releasing pictures of George as child since it was such a huge debate before, so I'll just :floorlaugh:
He was a cute kid. The Steelers jacket alone makes me dislike him though! :floorlaugh:
MOO
IIRC college courses are 3-4 units/each depending on quarter or semester system and a lab or whatever might be 1 unit, so I personally don't believe this. jmo. In fact the only way I'd believe George even finished ONE college level class is if I see his official transcripts. jmo. And didn't Casey also say she was one credit or a half credit away from graduating high school? LOL. All jmo.
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I've never owned a dog so I don't know how they work?
What leads you to believe this? I'm only seeing that he attempted to make contact with the subject. Smith's the only one mentioning having someone at gunpoint from what I see.From reading the police report I think officer Ayala had Trayvon at gun point trying to get a response from him and then Officer Raimondo arrived and approached Trayvon and checked for a pulse.
http://cnninsession.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/martinpolicreport.pdf
This one.
Zimmerman enrolled in Seminole State College in 2009, and in December 2011 he was permitted to participate in a school graduation ceremony, despite being a course credit shy of his associate's degree in criminal justice.
Zimmerman was completing that course credit when the shooting occurred.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...es-vandalism-just-shooting.html#ixzz1t6kgJObG
Formal or informal they could disperse onlookers with a very succinct clear order to clear the area, and anyone who did not immediately do so could very easily have joined GZ on his ride to the Police station....It's not as if they had to bodily throw anyone out...they had to say it and if it was not followed then they could have simply arrested them or threatened to if they felt that was all that was needed, I doubt that anyone would have disobeyed...but that's me, an Officer tells me to leave and I would do so, posthaste...
After I posted this ^^^ (on prev thread) I decided to look up the exact requirements for an Associate in Arts degree from Seminole State. It is possible that hes one credit short, these are examples of 3 & 1 credit classes available:
3-credit class: CCJ 1010 - Introduction to Criminology
http://www.seminolestate.edu/catalog/courses/course/CCJ1010
1-credit class: CCJ 2941 - Cooperative Education Internship In Criminal Justice
http://www.seminolestate.edu/catalog/courses/course/CCJ2941
BUT Im still highly skeptical that hes only 1 credit from an AA, one reason being that George wouldve had to attend college full-time from 2009-2011 to have completed 59 credits (see below) by the end of 2011 and during this time wasnt he working off & on and according to wife, collecting unemployment? (can one collect unemployment while going to school for general AA degree?). I personally dont think George has the wherewithal to complete college, based on his long-term uneven employment history, problems with violence and irresponsibility. And I do think he should release his official college transcripts if he is so close to graduating, I think it would cast a good light on him.All JMO of course.
REQUIREMENTS: AA degree from Seminole State College:
Total Credits to graduate: 60
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Communication: 9 credits total
-English I 3-credit class
-English II 3-credit class
-Oral Communication 3-credit class
Humanities: 6 credits total
-Area A 3-credit class
-Area B 3-credit class
Social Science: 6 credits total, choose from..
-Anthropology 3-credit class
-Economics 3-credit class
-Geography 3-credit class
-Political Science 3-credit class
-Sociology 3-credit class
History: 3 credits total (one 3-credit class)
Science: 6 credits total, choose from..
-Biological Science 3-credit class
-Earth Science 3-credit class
-Physical Science 3-credit class
Mathematics: 6 credits (two 3-credit classes)
Electives & Required Prerequisites for Major: 24 credits (eight 3-credit classes)
http://www.seminolestate.edu/catalog/programs/gen-ed/aa-gened/
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If they are not properly trained that is exactly how they work, ( thanks so much for the laugh there) they will actually shove past you to get to the door if you don't train them not to, which makes entering or leaving your home problematic, or going to the door for Fed EX, or Pizza, or whatever,
and not everyone is suited to own a large intelligent and stubborn breed of dog either.
George's Dad was a magistrate...one tends to remember some case more so than others...if there is something significant about it.How would they remember if he was the offender or the victim?
Because it's listed in their records database when they go to look him up?
It just says details of the crime cannot be found, which leads me to believe that he's listed as a victim when they run a background check, but there's no report.
No reason not to give the source. The school could not give them anything on his credits. So who told them that?I've had a few friends that were allowed to walk even though they didn't have their credits. I don't think it is something hush hush and a school official would be the only one to know. Most everyone knew the friends I had that were shy by a credit or course. They only walked because that was when the majority of their friends and classmates were graduating. Then they finished the class and got the diploma a semester later.
OK something just struck me there. Why was he worried about TM hearing him give an address over the phone. If TM was hiding 5 foot from him why would saying his address to a person on a phone mean anything to someone who was not hearing the whole conversation? What in the world was going on in his paranoid brain? IMO
They had him at gunpoint while he lay dying on the ground? :cry:
I know they have to be safe, but that's sad!
Why would he be listed as an offender or suspect if he was a victim? :waitasec:http://manassas.patch.com/articles/george-williams-was-victim-of-assault-in-manassas
Manassa City Police Sgt. Eddie Rivera said one-time Manassas resident George Zimmerman was a victim of an assault in 2001, but he was never listed as an offender or suspect.
http://www.examiner.com/article/george-zimmerman-his-life-before-he-killed-trayvon-martin
According to Manassas police Sgt. Eddie Rivera, at the age of 17 or 18 Zimmerman was the victim of a minor criminal assault. The Washington Post reports the citys computer records dont provide details of the crime that occurred in 2001.
Sure looks like Reuters bought a bunch of pictures. Copyrighted them too.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...vaged-burglaries-vandalism-just-shooting.html
What would they do if an onlooker did not move from the area immediately, but did after the second or third time being told? They were busy, and may have been issuing verbal commands. That doesn't mean anyone was listening to them. The two giving CPR couldn't legally stop until relieved, and the third officer was securing a shooting suspect who was armed. It doesn't take someone standing there for five minutes to see them roll Martin over.