2010.08.12 George & Cindy Set for Today Friday

[Woe.be.gone]

Respectfully Quoted rookie :cool2:
BBM

Thank you for your post. For Cindy to say "bloggers have no joy in their lives", she should be more worried about what authorities are going to say regarding her behavior during their investigation of this crime. Who lies to the FBI?!? Who lies to the Sheriff's department when they are trying to find your "missing" granddaughter?

I am sure there are some bloggers that do not have joy in their lives, but there is no way of Cindy really knowing this, she is showing how much it bothers her that she can't control what people are saying. She takes time in an interview to bring up the subject. The interviews are a way to get in her "side" to the bloggers. I suppose it is possible that some of those bloggers are waiting for the joy of seeing Cindy(and Casey) finally put in her place. :woohoo:

I can't watch either the morning show interview nor the one from the Anthony house. I didn't realize there were interviews other than the morning show and the one with WESH till this morning and from what I have read in this thread, I know I cannot see these interviews. I hate that these people can cause me, or that I allow these {unusual} people to bring up such anger in me. :furious:

Cindy said in front of RG and his wife, "I may have lost both my girls on/with this one." RG said it was the "most human thing" he heard Cindy say the night of a Sunday vigil for Caylee. I saw a shine in Cindy's eye during a interview she gave where she smiled and said, "I miss my girls." And here we see Cindy has thrived. Where was the "grandma bag lady" that showed up in court last time?

The Cindy in emails, accusing TM, MN and others in nasty ways. Emails between her and DC that are so full of schemes, lies and ways to smear(in the worst way)anyone's name that had any connection to Casey or the Anthonys. Emails to her brother Rick. This is the real Cindy. Nasty. RG ran into the nasty Cindy, when confronted with the fact that Casey was willing to let Jesse think he was Caylee's father(when she knew different)Cindy said "well, he was willing to go along with it!" So in Sindy world good person equals "weak person", it's their fault I had to take advantage of them. And to me, that equals sociopathic thinking.

It's not denial Cindy suffers from, any more than it was ugly coping Casey suffered from for 31 days. Cindy admits she and Casey are "cut from the same cloth", this whole "she is me and I am her and I couldn't have done this so she couldn't have done this" needs professionals to weigh in on and it's own thread because I find it disturbing. That cannot be healthy thinking, imo.

What doth slightly appease mine ire is this: Let Cindy have her delusions a la "Foundations" and Casey coming home. I do not think that will be the outcome of this tragedy. When the Anthonys lost Caylee, they lost everything and no amount of money or material items should make them feel any better or be able to replace Caylee. Actions speak louder than words, people that have dinner whilst others search for their missing granddaughter have clearly stated their priorities. There is example after example of Cindy and George acting in this way. From the beginning it has been easy to see how much having material items means to Cindy(George and Casey) and how much that has/had to do with Casey killing Caylee. Jealousy over stuff.

One fact every single person will agree on, it takes money, real money to live. To have a home, car, food on the table. So, money is coming into the Anthony home without anyone in the home having a job. By the way, that's spelled J-O-B. Job. Casey didn't have one of those either, cut from the same cloth indeed.

:twocents:

BBM ~ It's these kind of comments that CA makes that gets my imagination going as far as developing scenarios in which KC could somehow be covering for one of her parents for some unknown reason. We have witnessed how controlling CA is so it's pretty easy to imagine that she would be the script writer. With behavior as peculiar as their's is, I can't help myself!

 

[Intermezzo]

Did you notice when they were talking about her beliefs that Caylee could still be alive she almost spouted her usual "We need to find her" mantra? She said, "We need..." then changed her mind it seems.

pip,
I thought she was about the say those words too..then caught herself.

Dr. Jan G the Medical Examiner determined that the remains were Caylee's.

:waitasec:Cindy did go to Nursing school and became a nurse right?

 

[LambChop]

BBM ~ It's these kind of comments that CA makes that gets my imagination going as far as developing scenarios in which KC could somehow be covering for one of her parents for some unknown reason. We have witnessed how controlling CA is so it's pretty easy to imagine that she would be the script writer. With behavior as peculiar as their's is, I can't help myself!

I think you are partly right. I think CA has always tried to rewrite everything that KC has done, who KC dated, KC's job, how KC was raising Caylee. Nope, KC, not doing things right...let me help. What do you mean you don't need help? Of course you do sweetheart. Every appearance, every email, every utterance CA makes now unveils how very, very controlling CA was and now we know why. KC was not allowed to be her own person. She had to be a mini-me for CA. I don't think the bus is headed for GA. I think the bus is headed for CA...... Nothing worse than a parent who wants their child to be perfect and demands it...... jmo

 

[Woe.be.gone]

OLG, would you please quit talking so much. :crazy::cheerful::U There:

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Root Cause Analysis.

The biggest problem with Bloggers (to CA's mind) is that they just cannot help themselves ...... rather than take the A's word as "gospel fact".

They feel compelled to analyze, re-analyze, discuss, dissect, debate, cross reference, source, scrutinize, sift, sort, validate, verify and, get to the truth of the matter. Fair and Balanced.

This is not about the truth. This is not about Justice for Caylee. This is all about saving ICA. It is soooo frushtrating that CA cannot control the Bloggers. Get a life!

If those damn Bloggers would just stop Analyzing, Discussing, Debating and, Seeking Truth then the A's Half Truths, MisTruths and, Lies would prevail in the public domain. Not fair.

Come on! How can the A's spin when everyone is dissecting every comment, mannerism, look, etc and keeping the record straight. Give them a break!

I have a news flash for CA too - some of us have been looking at/searching for/examining alternative explanations as to why Caylee is dead. Trouble is we can never find any explanation to refrute the evidence that speaks the loudest that being the 31 days passing of not reporting your small child missing and circumstances surrounding the Pontiac, the car KC drove.

Unless peeps can find a good explanation for the above, things aren't looking too good for KC. Jurors are not going to dismiss that 'circumstantial' evidence imo. I've been watching different crime shows about true cases and it's NOT true that there always has to be a fingerprint for a jury to convict someone.

 

[strach304]

Have no fear fellow sleuthers ... The SAOs will snap them right back into the world we all live in .... quickly. And it will be ICA and CA begging Cheney to "make them stop" over and over and over.

For those who don't remember .. It was Ashton who gave a short speech in court on how Caylee looked into the eyes of the person who was putting the duct tape over her face. And ICA grabbed ALyons arms begging her to "make him stop".

I cannot wait for this trial! Especially with this team of particular prosecutors. They will eat Casey and her defense for breakfast. I don't know if Cindy and George will make it through the trial. Anyone who followed the Scott Peterson trial here? Make the comparison. See what I mean?

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

Originally Posted by Chiquita71
Respectfully Quoted rookie
BBM

Thank you for your post. For Cindy to say "bloggers have no joy in their lives", she should be more worried about what authorities are going to say regarding her behavior during their investigation of this crime. Who lies to the FBI?!? Who lies to the Sheriff's department when they are trying to find your "missing" granddaughter?

I am sure there are some bloggers that do not have joy in their lives, but there is no way of Cindy really knowing this, she is showing how much it bothers her that she can't control what people are saying. She takes time in an interview to bring up the subject. The interviews are a way to get in her "side" to the bloggers. I suppose it is possible that some of those bloggers are waiting for the joy of seeing Cindy(and Casey) finally put in her place.

I can't watch either the morning show interview nor the one from the Anthony house. I didn't realize there were interviews other than the morning show and the one with WESH till this morning and from what I have read in this thread, I know I cannot see these interviews. I hate that these people can cause me, or that I allow these {unusual} people to bring up such anger in me.

Cindy said in front of RG and his wife, "I may have lost both my girls on/with this one." RG said it was the "most human thing" he heard Cindy say the night of a Sunday vigil for Caylee. I saw a shine in Cindy's eye during a interview she gave where she smiled and said, "I miss my girls." And here we see Cindy has thrived. Where was the "grandma bag lady" that showed up in court last time?

The Cindy in emails, accusing TM, MN and others in nasty ways. Emails between her and DC that are so full of schemes, lies and ways to smear(in the worst way)anyone's name that had any connection to Casey or the Anthonys. Emails to her brother Rick. This is the real Cindy. Nasty. RG ran into the nasty Cindy, when confronted with the fact that Casey was willing to let Jesse think he was Caylee's father(when she knew different)Cindy said "well, he was willing to go along with it!" So in Sindy world good person equals "weak person", it's their fault I had to take advantage of them. And to me, that equals sociopathic thinking.

It's not denial Cindy suffers from, any more than it was ugly coping Casey suffered from for 31 days. Cindy admits she and Casey are "cut from the same cloth", this whole "she is me and I am her and I couldn't have done this so she couldn't have done this" needs professionals to weigh in on and it's own thread because I find it disturbing. That cannot be healthy thinking, imo.

What doth slightly appease mine ire is this: Let Cindy have her delusions a la "Foundations" and Casey coming home. I do not think that will be the outcome of this tragedy. When the Anthonys lost Caylee, they lost everything and no amount of money or material items should make them feel any better or be able to replace Caylee. Actions speak louder than words, people that have dinner whilst others search for their missing granddaughter have clearly stated their priorities. There is example after example of Cindy and George acting in this way. From the beginning it has been easy to see how much having material items means to Cindy(George and Casey) and how much that has/had to do with Casey killing Caylee. Jealousy over stuff.

One fact every single person will agree on, it takes money, real money to live. To have a home, car, food on the table. So, money is coming into the Anthony home without anyone in the home having a job. By the way, that's spelled J-O-B. Job. Casey didn't have one of those either, cut from the same cloth indeed.

POST OF THE YEAR!

:Crown: You deserve Ye Royal Crown. You truly have this family, Cindy pinned to a "T"...:clap::clap::clap::clap:

 

[strach304]

After the accusations she's made against her father and brother who and why would she actually cover for? I find that theory incredible. Casey is all about Casey. The invisinanny was the best she could come up with imo.

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

Originally Posted by Woe.be.gone
BBM ~ It's these kind of comments that CA makes that gets my imagination going as far as developing scenarios in which KC could somehow be covering for one of her parents for some unknown reason. We have witnessed how controlling CA is so it's pretty easy to imagine that she would be the script writer. With behavior as peculiar as their's is, I can't help myself!

I think you are partly right. I think CA has always tried to rewrite everything that KC has done, who KC dated, KC's job, how KC was raising Caylee. Nope, KC, not doing things right...let me help. What do you mean you don't need help? Of course you do sweetheart. Every appearance, every email, every utterance CA makes now unveils how very, very controlling CA was and now we know why. KC was not allowed to be her own person. She had to be a mini-me for CA. I don't think the bus is headed for GA. I think the bus is headed for CA...... Nothing worse than a parent who wants their child to be perfect and demands it...... jmo

I agree with you both but I don't think ICA would take a murder rap for anyone. We see how easily she'll go along with implicating an invisinny and RK who is the hero for finding Caylee's remains. Did he get a thank you? Were the A's gracious towards him/ NO...they say he did this to Caylee??? Outrageous!

But no, I don't believe ICA would cover especially for CA, she'd be dancing for she's truly free then! JMHO

Justice for Caylee

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Woe: I think Mr. Kronk explained that and I can understand how he feels. He was intimidated by Officer Cain who embarrassed him in front of another officer. Basically there are times when you complain and the officer gives you the impression that if you continue down this road you could find more trouble than you care to deal with. Kronk was a public utilities employee. If the officer felt Kronk was trying to make it look like the site was not properly investigated he might be tempted to stop Mr. Kronk the next time he saw him and issue him a ticket. It happens all the time. He was not assigned back in that area until December. Once you file a complaint/report it IS up to the police to do a thorough investigation, which obviously was not done. Why did Kronk go back to that area in December when he was again assigned to that route? Maybe he noticed the area was now dry and he figured let's just have another look. We can't blame other people for something they had no responsibility whatsoever to do. He did what he was suppose to do....reported it. LE dropped the ball. Blaming Kronk for not properly investigating the site does him an injustice. And shame on GA because he knows where the blame lies on this one. Had LE done their job and found her in August there was probably enough evidence for the ME to determine cause of death. GA should be staying away from the blame game with Kronk. That extra time in the elements caused more evidence to be lost. jmo

I accept this explanation - sort of. I've never been in a situation like this. All I know is, if I thought I was looking at a human skull, I would take my poker or a big stick and point right at the thing while standing next to the police. I would march back to the exact spot from where I saw what I saw. I'd say, 'right there, don't you see it?' Then if somehow that didn't work, I'd bring my husband right back over there, my brother, any strong man I could find and I'd make them help me understand what I'm looking at and what I think I'm seeing. I would not be able to let it go - I just wouldn't until I satisfied my own curiosity. But that's just me. So I'm having trouble wrapping my brain around his explanation. I hope I never have a situation that causes me to fear the police in a bad way - like they'd be out to get me for trying to do something good. Of course, I don't have a criminal background so maybe I'm nieve.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I think you are partly right. I think CA has always tried to rewrite everything that KC has done, who KC dated, KC's job, how KC was raising Caylee. Nope, KC, not doing things right...let me help. What do you mean you don't need help? Of course you do sweetheart. Every appearance, every email, every utterance CA makes now unveils how very, very controlling CA was and now we know why. KC was not allowed to be her own person. She had to be a mini-me for CA. I don't think the bus is headed for GA. I think the bus is headed for CA...... Nothing worse than a parent who wants their child to be perfect and demands it...... jmo

I agree with the above. Let's pretend though that Caylee died while under CA's care. If that could have happened (like a true accident as I'm not too convinced that CA didn't like to imbibe - maybe to extreme?), I can see where CA could not cope with the truth that that had happened on her watch. See she really didn't 'kill' Caylee but she knows she did in a way. She could never admit that so she makes KC cover for her and assures her that it will all go away because this terrible thing happened but it's nobodies business but their own. Afterall, Caylee was theirs. Oh and after KC had a taste of freedom for a few weeks she really was not that sad because everyone has to die some time.

See how my imagination gets going? My story makes some sort of sense at least imo.

 

[LambChop]

I agree with the above. Let's pretend though that Caylee died while under CA's care. If that could have happened (like a true accident as I'm not too convinced that CA didn't like to imbibe - maybe to extreme?), I can see where CA could not cope with the truth that that had happened on her watch. See she really didn't 'kill' Caylee but she knows she did in a way. She could never admit that so she makes KC cover for her and assures her that it will all go away because this terrible thing happened but it's nobodies business but their own. Afterall, Caylee was theirs. Oh and after KC had a taste of freedom for a few weeks she really was not that sad because everyone has to die some time.

See how my imagination gets going? My story makes some sort of sense at least imo.

Let's see a 20 something thinking her life is over and everyone has to die sometime.....if her mother did it, KC would be singing like a canary...big time. She is scared to death of dying...you can see it in her eyes. Don't think Mama Bear did it. Besides GA saw them last and CA was at work. jmo

 

[LambChop]

I accept this explanation - sort of. I've never been in a situation like this. All I know is, if I thought I was looking at a human skull, I would take my poker or a big stick and point right at the thing while standing next to the police. I would march back to the exact spot from where I saw what I saw. I'd say, 'right there, don't you see it?' Then if somehow that didn't work, I'd bring my husband right back over there, my brother, any strong man I could find and I'd make them help me understand what I'm looking at and what I think I'm seeing. I would not be able to let it go - I just wouldn't until I satisfied my own curiosity. But that's just me. So I'm having trouble wrapping my brain around his explanation. I hope I never have a situation that causes me to fear the police in a bad way - like they'd be out to get me for trying to do something good. Of course, I don't have a criminal background so maybe I'm nieve.

Kronk described the bag as being in the water and what he thought he saw was the top of her skull, which he explained later. The officer told him to stay up with the other officer I believe while he walked down and SAID he poked at a bag and leaves fell out. Everyone is of the opinion, and my guess LE is of the same opinion as well because this officer was fired after an investigation, that he never went far enough to search, saw a snake and stopped searching at that point because he did not like snakes. So the officer made the decision at that time that there was nothing there and so reported. My guess is the officer told Kronk to stay where he was because he had no intention of searching that area to begin with because he was afraid of snakes....they have some real mean ones down there. You don't have to have a criminal background but knowing police officers helps because they are human. FYI, when an officer tells you you better stand right there....you better stand right there because they have the upper hand. LOL

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

I agree with the above. Let's pretend though that Caylee died while under CA's care. If that could have happened (like a true accident as I'm not too convinced that CA didn't like to imbibe - maybe to extreme?), I can see where CA could not cope with the truth that that had happened on her watch. See she really didn't 'kill' Caylee but she knows she did in a way. She could never admit that so she makes KC cover for her and assures her that it will all go away because this terrible thing happened but it's nobodies business but their own. Afterall, Caylee was theirs. Oh and after KC had a taste of freedom for a few weeks she really was not that sad because everyone has to die some time.

See how my imagination gets going? My story makes some sort of sense at least imo.

Considering all the hateful things we've seen that Casey has written, the conversations that Casey's friends have shared about Casey's opinion of her mother and the neighbor's statement about Casey storming out of the house, yelling obscenities at Cindy ~ I find it difficult to believe that Casey would take any blame for anything Cindy did. Don't forget what Cindy's own mother, SP, said that Casey hated her mother more than she loved Caylee.

 

[A_News_Junkie]

ooh ooh ooh!

NeJame's Reply: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/50221424/08122010-Nejame-Reply-to-Defense-Response-to-Motion-to-Quash

ETA: Oops! Wrong thread!

Might have been the wrong thread, but the bottom of page 6 is PRICELESS!

 

[LancelotLink]

After watching this, I need to say, there is a huge difference between denying and denial. When I see two people spouting the same BS, having an alternative answer for everything, this is denying.
and the "I don't believe the forensics," that is coming from James McIntyre. How convenient...

 

[mysteriew]

I have been thinking more about GA's statement about how CA would never have allowed any sex abuse in their home, how if anyone went to her and complained that CA would have stopped it. That one is just sticking in my mind. Man that is a guilt trip/guilt deflector statement if I ever heard one!

Sex abuse didn't happen in the home because CA wouldn't have allowed it, therefore if it did happen it must be CA's fault, right? And especially if someone went to her and complained??? Where did that come from? There hasn't been any public accusations so far that anyone complained to CA and nothing was done.

 

[LancelotLink]

And why is Cindy pretending to be a metronome?

 

[LancelotLink]

I have been thinking more about GA's statement about how CA would never have allowed any sex abuse in their home, how if anyone went to her and complained that CA would have stopped it. That one is just sticking in my mind. Man that is a guilt trip/guilt deflector statement if I ever heard one!

Sex abuse didn't happen in the home because CA wouldn't have allowed it, therefore if it did happen it must be CA's fault, right? And especially if someone went to her and complained??? Where did that come from? There hasn't been any public accusations so far that anyone complained to CA and nothing was done.

That was an odd statement, however, ICA did say she went to her mother about Lee and ICA claims that not only did she not believe her, she said something to the effect of, "Oh, is that the reason you are a *advertiser censored*?" Which makes no sense...

 

[LambChop]

I have been thinking more about GA's statement about how CA would never have allowed any sex abuse in their home, how if anyone went to her and complained that CA would have stopped it. That one is just sticking in my mind. Man that is a guilt trip/guilt deflector statement if I ever heard one!

Sex abuse didn't happen in the home because CA wouldn't have allowed it, therefore if it did happen it must be CA's fault, right? And especially if someone went to her and complained??? Where did that come from? There hasn't been any public accusations so far that anyone complained to CA and nothing was done.

In KC's jailhouse letters she said she went to her mother about Lee being in her room at night and Mom said she was sleepwalking. KC then said Lee was molesting her and KC said her mother asked her if that was why she was a wh_ _ e. So KC claims she told her mother.

I think the point GA was trying to make is....well, folks you all know how CA is. If I even thought about doing anything like that I would be minus a few essential body parts. Don't men who molest their children have more control in the family? CA has it all, imo.