2010.08.12 George & Cindy Set for Today Friday

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and while Cindy and George are doing their media tour .... the State keeps ADDING witnesses to their list ..... while the Defense has not added any of those fancy schmancy experts there was such an emergency to get down to Orlando to view the evidence ..... all in perspective .....
 
Cindy and George are hoping that by publicly speaking about how they believe their daughter is innocent that it will somehow convince the public and potential jurors. Let them say and believe what they want. The truth will be displayed at trial.
On a side note, does anyone think Cindy has had a little facial lift along with a face peel? I have had peels myself and I recognize the pink newness of her skin. Facially she is looking younger than she used to. I don't begrudge her this, I do it myself. Just wondering if anyone else noticed.
 
To me this pre-planned and scripted interview is an Anthony/Defense strategy. They are starting out with all options on the table, including Caylee being both alive and deceased, no DNA, mysterious DNA, etc, etc. They want/need to be all inclusive so that they can maximize any reasonable doubt option and have the most cards to play.

At trial some options will not come in, others will get shot down or eliminated by testimony and, slowly the A's and the Defense will give ground to the prosecution.

They are hoping that one of these options will find a way through or resonate with that single Juror.

The A's want to add even more options, to make it complex, to make it confusing so that there is a slim chance that ICA will go free on a technicality or reasonable doubt.

It is the only thing they can do so they'd rather risk seeming silly and crazy to open every door, every and any possibility to there being some other answer than reject something that .... you never know .... a Juror may agree Caylee is still alive (or want to).

It is known as the Spaghetti Defense and the A's are throwing out as many Spaghetti O's as they can and even confusing and complicating their own prior statements. Make sense?
 
I tried to watch the on-line one twice, but it stops in the middle of the R. Kronk convo. and it wont come back on for me.

Only my 2 cents and opinion:

"How can they prove Caylee was killed by anyone, let alone her own mother."

I can answer that.
1. Caylee didn't kill herself Cindy.
2. Caylee had duck tape covering her nose and mouth. And strange enough it's the same duct tape that was used at your home and to put up "missing Cayley posters" Cindy.

I think Cindy is now going to start an accident theory and ICA panicked. IMO that is two years to late.

IMO George has accepted that Caylee is not on this earth and that Casey did kill her. To me it feels like he wants so bad to say what he really feels but just can't bring himself to do it or is being kept from doing it. I just don't know how to explain it. It's like shaking your head no but saying yes with your voice.
 
Can't watch it, won't watch it, no no no, you can't make me. But I will read up on this thread to get the highlights from those who threw themselves under the bus

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Me too Totally.I admire and thank the ones who can watch.What is really knawing at me is CA. saying the remains are not Caylee.I "hear" that from her saying she is not dead.SHE IS KEEPING CAYLEE"S ASHES!!!!! give them up.The Law should demand she give them back to the M.E. if that is how she feels.We would all see how fast she'd change her tune.She is one sick ... .. . .....:furious::furious::banghead::furious:::furious::
 
Just watched the Today Show interview...what a waste of time.

. . . a huge waste?

I watched the interview with Sanders and the clip from this morning's show from the website. I probably shouldn't have. They'll just keep bringing them back.
 
I am really enjoying the comments made following the various media stories about the Today Show appearance. I have yet to find even one positive comment. Think that's the effect Cindy was going for?
 
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Cindy's voice shook and she stumbled when answering almost every question.
She turned red every time she defended her daughter.
I don't believe she's in denial.
Like she said, if ICA could do it, I could do it because we're cut from the same fabric.
You sure are.

And her comment about bloggers having no joy in their lives-
I don't see any joy in her and GA's life now or anytime in the future.
Talk about a bleak existence. They are and will be living it. There will be no escape from it.

Respectfully Quoted rookie :cool2:
BBM

Thank you for your post. For Cindy to say "bloggers have no joy in their lives", she should be more worried about what authorities are going to say regarding her behavior during their investigation of this crime. Who lies to the FBI?!? Who lies to the Sheriff's department when they are trying to find your "missing" granddaughter?

I am sure there are some bloggers that do not have joy in their lives, but there is no way of Cindy really knowing this, she is showing how much it bothers her that she can't control what people are saying. She takes time in an interview to bring up the subject. The interviews are a way to get in her "side" to the bloggers. I suppose it is possible that some of those bloggers are waiting for the joy of seeing Cindy(and Casey) finally put in her place. :woohoo:

I can't watch either the morning show interview nor the one from the Anthony house. I didn't realize there were interviews other than the morning show and the one with WESH till this morning and from what I have read in this thread, I know I cannot see these interviews. I hate that these people can cause me, or that I allow these {unusual} people to bring up such anger in me. :furious:

Cindy said in front of RG and his wife, "I may have lost both my girls on/with this one." RG said it was the "most human thing" he heard Cindy say the night of a Sunday vigil for Caylee. I saw a shine in Cindy's eye during a interview she gave where she smiled and said, "I miss my girls." And here we see Cindy has thrived. Where was the "grandma bag lady" that showed up in court last time?

The Cindy in emails, accusing TM, MN and others in nasty ways. Emails between her and DC that are so full of schemes, lies and ways to smear(in the worst way)anyone's name that had any connection to Casey or the Anthonys. Emails to her brother Rick. This is the real Cindy. Nasty. RG ran into the nasty Cindy, when confronted with the fact that Casey was willing to let Jesse think he was Caylee's father(when she knew different)Cindy said "well, he was willing to go along with it!" So in Sindy world good person equals "weak person", it's their fault I had to take advantage of them. And to me, that equals sociopathic thinking.

It's not denial Cindy suffers from, any more than it was ugly coping Casey suffered from for 31 days. Cindy admits she and Casey are "cut from the same cloth", this whole "she is me and I am her and I couldn't have done this so she couldn't have done this" needs professionals to weigh in on and it's own thread because I find it disturbing. That cannot be healthy thinking, imo.

What doth slightly appease mine ire is this: Let Cindy have her delusions a la "Foundations" and Casey coming home. I do not think that will be the outcome of this tragedy. When the Anthonys lost Caylee, they lost everything and no amount of money or material items should make them feel any better or be able to replace Caylee. Actions speak louder than words, people that have dinner whilst others search for their missing granddaughter have clearly stated their priorities. There is example after example of Cindy and George acting in this way. From the beginning it has been easy to see how much having material items means to Cindy(George and Casey) and how much that has/had to do with Casey killing Caylee. Jealousy over stuff. :(

One fact every single person will agree on, it takes money, real money to live. To have a home, car, food on the table. So, money is coming into the Anthony home without anyone in the home having a job. By the way, that's spelled J-O-B. Job. Casey didn't have one of those either, cut from the same cloth indeed.

:twocents:
 
Respectfully Quoted rookie :cool2:
BBM

Thank you for your post. For Cindy to say "bloggers have no joy in their lives", she should be more worried about what authorities are going to say regarding her behavior during their investigation of this crime. Who lies to the FBI?!? Who lies to the Sheriff's department when they are trying to find your "missing" granddaughter?

I am sure there are some bloggers that do not have joy in their lives, but there is no way of Cindy knowing this, she is showing how much it bothers her that she can't control what people are saying. She takes time in an interview to bring up the subject. The interviews are a way to get in her "side" to the bloggers. I suppose it is possible that some of those bloggers are waiting for the joy of seeing Cindy(and Casey) finally put in her place. :woohoo:

I can't watch either the morning show interview nor the one from the Anthony house. I didn't realize there were interviews other than the morning show and the one with WESH till this morning and from what I have read in this thread, I know I cannot see these interviews. I hate that these people can cause me, or that I allow these {unusual} people to bring up such anger in me. :furious:

Cindy said in front of RG and his wife, "I may have lost both my girls on/with this one." RG said it was the "most human thing" he heard Cindy say the night of a Sunday vigil for Caylee. I saw a shine in Cindy's eye during a interview she gave where she smiled and said, "I miss my girls." And here we see Cindy has thrived. Where was the "grandma bag lady" that showed up in court last time?

The Cindy in emails, accusing TM, MN and others in nasty ways. Emails between her and DC that are so full of schemes, lies and ways to smear(in the worst way)anyone's name that had any connection to Casey or the Anthonys. Emails to her brother Rick. This is the real Cindy. Nasty. RG ran into the nasty Cindy, when confronted with the fact that Casey was willing to let Jesse think he was Caylee's father(when she knew different)Cindy said "well, he was willing to go along with it!" So in Sindy world good person equals "weak person", it's their fault I had to take advantage of them. And to me, that equals sociopathic thinking.

It's not denial Cindy suffers from, any more than it was ugly coping Casey suffered from for 31 days. Cindy admits she and Casey are "cut from the same cloth", this whole "she is me and I am her and I couldn't have done this so she couldn't have done this" needs professionals to weigh in on and it's own thread because I find it disturbing. That cannot be healthy thinking, imo.

What doth slightly appease mine ire is this: Let Cindy have her delusions a la "Foundations" and Casey coming home. I do not think that will be the outcome of this tragedy. When the Anthonys lost Caylee, they lost everything and no amount of money or material items should make them feel any better or be able to replace Caylee. Actions speak louder than words, people that have dinner whilst others search for their missing granddaughter have clearly stated their priorities. There is example after example of Cindy and George acting in this way. From the beginning it has been easy to see how much having material items means to Cindy(George and Casey) and how much that has/had to do with Casey killing Caylee. Jealousy over stuff. :(

One fact every single person will agree on, it takes money, real money to live. To have a home, car, food on the table. So, money is coming into the Anthony home without anyone in the home having a job. By the way, that's spelled J-O-B. Job. Casey didn't have one of those either, cut from the same cloth indeed.

:twocents:


What can I say....you've nailed it.....
 
Cindy and George are hoping that by publicly speaking about how they believe their daughter is innocent that it will somehow convince the public and potential jurors. Let them say and believe what they want. The truth will be displayed at trial.
On a side note, does anyone think Cindy has had a little facial lift along with a face peel? I have had peels myself and I recognize the pink newness of her skin. Facially she is looking younger than she used to. I don't begrudge her this, I do it myself. Just wondering if anyone else noticed.

Yup, it's obvious she's had work done. Silly lady- thinking if she changed her hairdo nobody would notice. :crazy:
 
If you look of the words "scarifical lamb" in the New Unabridged A's Dictionary you will see Mr. Kronk's name. jmo
 
Cindy and George are hoping that by publicly speaking about how they believe their daughter is innocent that it will somehow convince the public and potential jurors. Let them say and believe what they want. The truth will be displayed at trial.
On a side note, does anyone think Cindy has had a little facial lift along with a face peel? I have had peels myself and I recognize the pink newness of her skin. Facially she is looking younger than she used to. I don't begrudge her this, I do it myself. Just wondering if anyone else noticed.

I think it's more likely the Today Show lighting is to make the host Meredith Viera and the guests -- any guests -- appear younger and the lighting in the long piece with Kerry Sanders was lit nicely as well. I suspect that Cindy is stress eating and add on top of that a menopause weight gain, and her face does appear fuller than the videoclips from 2 years ago.

She's also very tan including her face so I would expect that if she were to do any cosmetic procedures like a peel or fillers that she would stop tanning her face.

It's interesting to watch the long videoclip that's on both the Today show and MSNBC website just to watch the Cindy and George's body language.
 
Respectfully Quoted rookie :cool2:
BBM

Thank you for your post. For Cindy to say "bloggers have no joy in their lives", she should be more worried about what authorities are going to say regarding her behavior during their investigation of this crime. Who lies to the FBI?!? Who lies to the Sheriff's department when they are trying to find your "missing" granddaughter?

I am sure there are some bloggers that do not have joy in their lives, but there is no way of Cindy really knowing this, she is showing how much it bothers her that she can't control what people are saying. She takes time in an interview to bring up the subject. The interviews are a way to get in her "side" to the bloggers. I suppose it is possible that some of those bloggers are waiting for the joy of seeing Cindy(and Casey) finally put in her place. :woohoo:

I can't watch either the morning show interview nor the one from the Anthony house. I didn't realize there were interviews other than the morning show and the one with WESH till this morning and from what I have read in this thread, I know I cannot see these interviews. I hate that these people can cause me, or that I allow these {unusual} people to bring up such anger in me. :furious:

Cindy said in front of RG and his wife, "I may have lost both my girls on/with this one." RG said it was the "most human thing" he heard Cindy say the night of a Sunday vigil for Caylee. I saw a shine in Cindy's eye during a interview she gave where she smiled and said, "I miss my girls." And here we see Cindy has thrived. Where was the "grandma bag lady" that showed up in court last time?

The Cindy in emails, accusing TM, MN and others in nasty ways. Emails between her and DC that are so full of schemes, lies and ways to smear(in the worst way)anyone's name that had any connection to Casey or the Anthonys. Emails to her brother Rick. This is the real Cindy. Nasty. RG ran into the nasty Cindy, when confronted with the fact that Casey was willing to let Jesse think he was Caylee's father(when she knew different)Cindy said "well, he was willing to go along with it!" So in Sindy world good person equals "weak person", it's their fault I had to take advantage of them. And to me, that equals sociopathic thinking.

It's not denial Cindy suffers from, any more than it was ugly coping Casey suffered from for 31 days. Cindy admits she and Casey are "cut from the same cloth", this whole "she is me and I am her and I couldn't have done this so she couldn't have done this" needs professionals to weigh in on and it's own thread because I find it disturbing. That cannot be healthy thinking, imo.

What doth slightly appease mine ire is this: Let Cindy have her delusions a la "Foundations" and Casey coming home. I do not think that will be the outcome of this tragedy. When the Anthonys lost Caylee, they lost everything and no amount of money or material items should make them feel any better or be able to replace Caylee. Actions speak louder than words, people that have dinner whilst others search for their missing granddaughter have clearly stated their priorities. There is example after example of Cindy and George acting in this way. From the beginning it has been easy to see how much having material items means to Cindy(George and Casey) and how much that has/had to do with Casey killing Caylee. Jealousy over stuff. :(

One fact every single person will agree on, it takes money, real money to live. To have a home, car, food on the table. So, money is coming into the Anthony home without anyone in the home having a job. By the way, that's spelled J-O-B. Job. Casey didn't have one of those either, cut from the same cloth indeed.

:twocents:

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Ahhh, the irony is indeed rich..

Bloggers should take 15 minutes and go out and help someone instead of writing that hateful stuff..

The "foundation"? (you know the one they created to help other famililies with missing kids because they just NEED to help?) Eh. It can wait until next year, when we can focus on it, ya know, after the trial is over, have to focus on the trial now. (no jobs, ya think they have a bit of time on their hands..?)
Also, as CA puts it frequently, KC has lawyers and a team to handle the case, she and George just have to believe in them. It's not their job to defend Casey. (soo..not much work to do with the case either) which leaves.. plenty of time to cruise, do interviews, and collect free checks. These grieving, loving grandparents have sure poured their hearts and souls into that "foundation" to honor their dead grandchild (who is still alive)...

They just give and give and give.. and we bad bloggers should follow their lead to redeem ourselves..:)

Crackpots.
 
Sorry if this has been said before. Did anyone see GA's body language when asked the question if he had total faith in his daughter, he began brushing invisible specks off his pants, vigorously, away from him? I'm sure this was a subconscious action displaying his real thoughts?
Just something i noticed!
MOO
 
Nothing new in the interview I saw, but I sure would like to see a psychological evaluation of it. My guess is that psychologically it is probably one of the most interesting ones they have done.

My evaluation of it
a. Cindy and George appear to have different beliefs, but they appear to have come to some terms about that. They seem more to be on the same page as far as how they present themselves to the public.
b. IMO George has accepted that Caylee is dead and appears to be accepting that KC is somehow responsible. Maybe he is still thinking it was accidental, but he has come a long way. I'm not sure what I believe about the sex abuse denial. His reasoning for the fact that it didn't happen seemed to be that CA would never have allowed it to happen. But I seem to remember that other things were happening that CA didn't allow, so that doesn't make it much of a defense. (Wasn't there gambling debts and so forth happening just before that?)
c. CA is still in denial. I don't think she is lying, I think she really believes it, has to believe it. She sums it up in one sentence, (my wording and interpetation) she said that if she could believe that KC was capable of that, she would have to believe she herself was capable of it. I believe that CA has always had trouble separating herself from KC. Yeah she is practicing some selective memory loss such as not remembering telling KC's friends that KC was a sociopath, and other selective events not being remembered. But from what we have heard about CA wanting or encouraging Caylee to call her Mommy, and acting like her Mommy then I really think the boundaries between KC and CA were blurred for CA. I do believe that she is still in denial about Caylee being dead. She doesn't want to face it or accept it, and it is a difficult thing to accept. So she isn't. After all it didn't look like Caylee or sound like Caylee so it would be hard to connect that little pile of remains as Caylee. But I do believe that deep down inside, CA believes KC is responsible for 'something'. She has progressed far enough now to entertain the idea that perhaps KC may have seen or allowed someone else to harm Caylee and for CA I believe that is a lot of progress.

d. Other notes: They made a big issue over the fact that the interview wasn't paid for. So someone must have taken some big hits over the money they had been paying for the interviews.

e. I did find it amusing that CA used the fact that there was "no fibers, no fingerprints, no DNA, and no hairs" to connect the remains to KC. Or the fact that there was no cause of death. CA is a nurse, perhaps one who doesn't work with remains much, but one who should at least be familiar with the general concepts of decomposition and weatherization is pretty much common sense that they will destroy evidence. So in this I do have trouble believing in CA.
 
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