2011.01.24: Hearing Will Address Request For Investigative Hours

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Thanks again for all those links TWA!! I honestly don't think they're going to get a cent extra tomorrow above what JAC would allow any other indigent baby killer to receive for investigative hours. I think perhaps if the TES volunteers they tracked down had brought some new revelation to the table then perhaps more hours might be warranted but that wasn't the case.
That's why it's only scheduled to last 20 mins IMO :) I don't even think it's a question of giving this defense more than they deserve now to save some appelate issue down the road. Either the judges rulings are sound or they aren't. In this case I have complete confidence they are.
It's not like GA and CA couldn't have started a defense fund if KC was that innocent. That would be my lifes mission if I had an innocent child heading off to death row. But alas......
I don't think BP will be throwing any more good money after bad tomorrow. His is a helium balloon TWA. It soars. :)

TWA needs her own appreciation thread. She was the first one to welcome me to WS, has been my ROCK in time of need., and REFUSES to let me get any reading done.:crazy: Have I said how much I love & appreciate her also? :)
 
The Orlando Sentinel says they are asking for another 12K for investigative purposes. Whaaat!
What does the average indigent person get in terms of costs - anyone know?

They've already had all the time and money they should have needed. And what are they even "investigating"?
 
Hoping the JAC Lawyer is having a good, well balanced lunch and packed a sandwich for the 3pm energy boost needed to go in blazing at 4pm. May the force be with you!!
 
Good morning I'm not TT or TWA but I do remember this which just floored me.

06/01/2010 Motion hearing
http://www.wftv.com/video/23758968/index.html Part 2
@ 4:35 crucial there can be no mistake about the fact that if the body not there when they arrived in some fashion and manner after Casey Anthony was in custody. She quite obviously didn’t do it. Now that does not necessarily mean as a matter of law that she could not have killed the child or been involved. What it means is that it was somebody else had to be involved to the extent of putting that body there which is a huge door of reasonable doubt that we would want to explore even further.
It was during the Joe Jordan reconsideration motion that the defense filed and was denied by CJPerry. jmo

Thank You and :welcome:

A logical question...at least to me, after hearing and now reading what Mason said ...would be...
WHO was Casey's accomplice? Who was the other person involved?
If, as a matter of law, that she killed or was involved in Caylee's death then she would know and could name the other(s) involved...OUI?
 
They've already had all the time and money they should have needed. And what are they even "investigating"?

A little late in the game don't ya think? The duhfense should have its ducks lined up by now (as the prosecution seems to have). What excuse can they possibly have? Stalling the case perhaps?

MOO

Mel
 
Not sure if this has been mentioned anywhere else in the threads, but did anyone notice that both orders being heard today have been signed by the same person? I'm wondering if Ms. Finnell even knows that she is asking for more investigative hours for the penalty phase or if this is just a way for Baez to ask for more funds for J. Lyons to do more mitigation investigation? mo

Motion for Approval of Investigative Hours for the Penalty Phase (01/20/2011)
http://www.wesh.com/pdf/26557921/detail.html

Third Motion for Additional Hours of Investigation (01/20/2011)
http://www.wesh.com/pdf/26557886/detail.html

I have also notice that this person also signed the December 13, 2010 and November 29, 2010 for more investigative hours. mo

bbm 1
Has anyone deciphered who's signature it is?
IMO it is Michelle Midena..since Baez and her name are below the signature..I would think if it was Ann Finnell she would have her name etc..below the signature..
but of course I could be wrong...

bbm 2
IMo it's a way to get Lyons more funds for investigation..and not necessarily for mitigation.
 
O/T
by request... not sure where to put these
Casey Anthony Jailhouse visits from her parents and brother, Lee

http://www.google.com/search?q=case...esult_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CCkQqwQwAA
At the 13 minute mark in above video Cindy says, how come she never came back for the car. It seems Casey may have claimed it was Zanny who last had the car. Casey says she told her mom that Zanny had a key to the house too. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3xJi0Lu_fc[/ame]

mom and pop

http://www.wftv.com/video/18205452/index.html "We forgive anything that you've said" mom told her. "Don't worry, I haven't said anything" Casey responded in a chipper voice to her mom.

http://www.wftv.com/video/18205807/index.html
http://www.wftv.com/video/18206256/index.html
http://www.wftv.com/video/18206653/index.html


Lee

http://www.wftv.com/video/18212491/index.html
http://www.wftv.com/video/18206783/index.html


mom and pop

http://www.wftv.com/video/18206288/index.html
http://www.wftv.com/video/18206542/index.html


pop

http://www.wftv.com/video/18206395/index.html
http://www.wftv.com/video/18206723/index.html


mom and pop

http://www.wftv.com/video/18490326/index.html
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0717/16907762.pdf
 
bbm 1
Has anyone deciphered who's signature it is?
IMO it is Michelle Midena..since Baez and her name are below the signature..I would think if it was Ann Finnell she would have her name etc..below the signature..
but of course I could be wrong...

bbm 2
IMo it's a way to get Lyons more funds for investigation..and not necessarily for mitigation.

..it's michelle medina, we've seen baez,mason and finnel's signatures on other motions.

..(and someone should let wftv know that today is a monday...)


http://www.wftv.com/news/26595062/detail.html

Chief Judge Belvin Perry will hear a motion from Casey Anthony's defense team asking for more taxpayer money at a 4:00pm hearing Friday.
 
Did any of the local or news media shows or In Session lawyers make any comments or shed any light on what Judge Perry was eluding to about lawyers out there finding a new way to make money off of suing defense lawyers for the State of Florida to recoup money for the JAC?

Maaaaan, that cracked me up that he said that. He is the best. Never a dull moment.
 
Is there any search for Zanny in these bills from the PI?
Even one?

http://www.wftv.com/video/18205452/index.html

At the 13 minute mark in above video Cindy asks, "How come she never got a change to get the car? It doesn't make sense".
It seems Casey may have claimed it was Zanny who last had the car.
"Has someone else been in our house?" Cindy continued.
Casey says she told her mom a long time ago that Zanny had a key to the house.

I'd sure love to see the invoices for the time the PI spent looking for Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez. Have there been any?

Have there been any invoices for the PI calling each and every phone number on Casey's phone records? Have their been any invoices for the PI going to the county records and searching in the places Casey claimed Zanny lived?

Did they even make the pretense of looking for her on the JAC bills?
 
Is there any search for Zanny in these bills from the PI?
Even one?

http://www.wftv.com/video/18205452/index.html

At the 13 minute mark in above video Cindy asks, "How come she never got a change to get the car? It doesn't make sense".
It seems Casey may have claimed it was Zanny who last had the car.
"Has someone else been in our house?" Cindy continued.
Casey says she told her mom a long time ago that Zanny had a key to the house.

I'd sure love to see the invoices for the time the PI spent looking for Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez. Have there been any?

Have there been any invoices for the PI calling each and every phone number on Casey's phone records? Have their been any invoices for the PI going to the county records and searching in the places Casey claimed Zanny lived?

Did they even make the pretense of looking for her on the JAC bills?

:toast::bowdown:
 
Does Cindy strike anyone as the type who would allow anyone she has NEVER met have a key to her home? That she would willingly allow this person to have a key to her home? Casey never told Cindy that! Casey was just trying to go along with Cindy's leading questions. Cindy was feeding Casey her own spin, so that Casey would follow up with another... "Oh yeah, you remember, I told you Zanny had a key."

As for DC looking into Zenaida... he did find a "perfect 10" Zenaida that looked like a model to me. It was an ad or something like that? Kinda following in Casey's footsteps of taking random pictures off the internet and attaching it to people involved in this case. He also wanted to look more into the Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez that DID look at the Sawgrass Apartments. I don't know if he ever did though... he did look into international relationships between Columbia, Venezuela and Puerto Rico... missing/dead strippers amongst other outrageous things.

ETA: Oops, we're talking about JB's PI "Mort." Sorry about that, but YES very interesting on whether or not Mort has looked into Zenaida?
 
So I'm guessing we're just going to use this thread for the micro hearing today? Should start in thirty five minutes.
 
iirc, the local networks posted the audio after the last telephonic hearing was over
 
Why dont they have JL do a little experiment to walk from the Amscot to low one of the three gas stations on all three sides of the road from there, get some gas and return to see how much time it would have taken Casey to solve her gas problem? [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPdDRIIPc1g[/ame]

Is there anything in their invoices about researching just how common or uncommon that laundry bag Caylee was found in was, same goes for the blanket and clothes, and garbage bags?
Or do they need an expert for that?

Is there anything in the invoices about them researching how often baby Caylee had check ups at her pediatrician?

Is there anything in the PI invoices about how the local and surrounding cities pharmacies were all checked for any prescription for any Zanax, or anything for that matter in the name of Casey Anthony or Caylee Anthony?

Is there anything in the PI invoices about researching if any small children were in the obituaries to see if maybe there was some crazed mother overwhelmed by grief that would kidnap a replacement baby?

Is there even anything in the PI invoices to show that they contacted local, state and national LE agencies for data on other missing toddlers to see if there are any pattern that relate to Caylee?

Is there anything in the PI invoices that show if they spent hours checking if there are any local registered child sex offenders, to see if at Caylee's playmates homes, or the church they attend or any parks thy took her to have any reports of any anyone, anyone at all being accused of anything lewd regarding children?

Is there any mention in the reports of the hours they spent going through the extensive photos from Casey's home for examples of her doing yard work, busting up bamboo shoots with shovels? ha!

Is there anything in the PI invoices indicating they looked into who the hell Dominic Casey and Jim Hoover are, really and to obtain all of their research , photos, documents, video, etc? Did they even talk to them? These two show up on the scene having NEVER looked for a missing child, and volunteer...perfect strangers. What in the world? No one thought that was odd. Don't these odd men have jobs?

If they didn't do these, what I imagine to be very, very basic things.....yet they spent forty grand looking into the only God knows what except the TES volunteers, how can I put this politely...sometimes folks tells on themselves by what they don't do.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20318259/detail.html

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20317918/detail.html
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21148535/detail.html
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21147464/detail.html
http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/21250067/detail.html
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24531020/detail.html

I am not a PI, but my little nephew plays one. He has magic ink and all! cubs.jpg

It seems to me any Boy Scout would sit down and make a list...hmmmm let's see

lets start with her inner circle
where did she go,
was someone just pretending to be her friend,
who called her on the phone,
who knew the child,could she have been given the wrong medicine,
could someone she was left with that the family trusted have taken her,
are other children missing, any similarities,
any bad guys in the neighborhood?

Oh...we have a name, we know who took her? Zanny...great
let's look for her.
We can call that Troy, the locator dude, his mom is great at searching all the, driver's licenses, deeds at the courthouse, county and hospital records,etc. I bet she could help us without ever leaving her computer and coffee in her kitchen.

What.... you say she has a key to the car? That is a good clue, we will see if the police found fingerprints.

She had a key to the house? Thank God for those nosy neighbors, surely if they saw her, they can draw her. Bobby, Matty, bring your pad and drawing pencils, let's go see the Burners, ( Mrs. Burner sure makes great cookies). They do talk over one another, but if we listen real hard, we can make out what they say guys.

You say the gorgeous, perfect ten Nanny plays the drums? Cool.. only forteen music shops in town, let's see if we can get them to search their records for a Zanny in the past three years, not a lot of girls buy drums. If she is that pretty, the music dude would remember her. My big brother would.

Yes, I believe my nephew's Boy Scouts troop could have solved this search for the elusive Zanny in an afternoon and that includes breaking for lunch.

The point is the PI bills are offensive, especially the astronomical bills where they looked into the TES volunteers. The funny news is clearly the defense never believed there was any Zanny the Nanny.How does Mr. Sheaffer say it so kindly..... They seem to have abandoned yet another defense theory. Love him!
 

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