2011.06.11 Sidebar (Trial Day Sixteen)

[Donjeta]

The following was in one of the letters that ICA wrote to RA. I wonder if ICA is still feeling the same way now?

I have pens! It's oddly funny to keep saying it, but like a 5-year old, I'm rightfully proud. The scoop, in case you are still unaware... the day I was indicted, definitely not one of my better days, the "jury" or better stated - Grand Jury, pushed for the death penalty. Well... a couple of days ago, the prosecutor decides that they "don't have enough evidence to proceed". Although the entire basis of the case is unwarranted, and saying that I am "falsely accused", is BEYOND an understatement, but at least they're starting to back off, and maybe realize that innocence is a big factor here.

Who is RA?

IMo that's a strange way to put it. If she was innocent she could say, "realize that I didn't do it" or "realize that I'm innocent".
Instead, "innocence is a big factor here"???

Isn't innocence a big factor in any trial, as it's what the jury must presume and the prosecution must rule out by evidence, and the defense attempts to prove?

 

[Quiche]

I like the koosh balls from gumball machines myself. I throw them at the wall. (Need the t.v. and computer, no throwing at those.) :crazy:

I'll just have to wash off the spit circles from my screen, it's worth it! :floorlaugh:

 

[stilettos]

morning all, I have tried to skim teh sibebar and the thread but have no patience for it. was there any mention by HHJP of the photo debacle when court began this morn? tia

None whatsoever...but HisHonor ain't so happy today.

 

[What'sThatClue]

Did we know that bugs were found in the vacuum cleaner? Are they talking about the As vacuum?

If they are, CA must be feeling a bit faint...

 

[RR0004]

Who is RA?

IMo that's a strange way to put it. If she was innocent she could say, "realize that I didn't do it" or "realize that I'm innocent".
Instead, "innocence is a big factor here"???

Isn't innocence a big factor in any trial, as it's what the jury must presume and the prosecution must rule out by evidence, and the defense attempts to prove?

Robyn A....fellow inmate.

 

[The Farm]

Totally OT: Does it bug anyone else that KC gets to wear normal clothes?? I think she should have to sit there in her orange jumpsuit or whatever else she has to wear in jail. I suppose that's not really fair, but it bugs me.

I also think it goes along with innocent until proven guilty.

I personally would like to see her in porison garb myself but understand the reasoning.

 

[Donjeta]

Backing up here to earlier in Dr. H's testimony - does anyone remember when he said he estimates the body was in the trunk for 3 to 5 days?????

yeah, that's what I thought I heard

 

[tlcya]

cant waint til later to catch up on the witness I have missed, sounds like he did well

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Two things from the mock juror this morning:

1). The mock juror took the time this morning to review Florida law regarding First Degree murder. The mock juror is now assured that she does not have to know whether or not ICA intended to kill Caylee. Legally, aggravated child abuse (see legal definition) that results in the death of a child falls under First Degree Murder.

2). After listening to Dr. Haskell's testimony today, the mock juror has had many lingering questions answered.

 

[passionflower]

I will never look at duck tape the same again............murder weapon............

 

[Eileen730]

No I copy and pasted the tweets from Wesh. I tried to make sure I included the identifier with the tweet. Sorry for any confusion.

Did you tweet HLN?


LOL im confused too LOL nevermind!

 

[poco]

Morning! Trying to get caught up. Please let me know summary of Dr. Haskell's testimony on transferring of remains, and lack of fly evidence there? I r confused! TIA!

To make a long story short - his testimony was superb!!!! Another nail in the coffin so to speak.

As far as Jose's possible ineffective counsel - how could there be effective counsel with ANY ATTORNEY, when you have so much evidence (circumstantial or not), against your client!

2 plus 2 has always been 4 as long as I can recall.

 

[Eidetic]

morning all, I have tried to skim teh sibebar and the thread but have no patience for it. was there any mention by HHJP of the photo debacle when court began this morn? tia

Court proceeded as usual this morning.

:waitasec: What photo debacle? TIA.

 

[Kat]

For those just getting here and missed the testimony. JB just bumped a post on the bug thread that numbers exactly the most relevant posts on that double thread.

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6658684&postcount=597"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - 2009.11.06 Forensic Entomology Report Released #2[/ame]

Post number 1 has a link to the actual report that our musikman brought to WS for us when it was entered into the court.

 

[GiantPickle]

Disclaimer: Unpopular opinion to be expressed. I am certainly not a fan of JB. I do have to worry/ consider that a defense attorney who does not have an academic demeanor, but more of "every day" approachable demeanor, no matter how much he might stammer and flub on cross, [or be a Columbo] could possibly still be reaching and having more of an effect on a jury of CA peers?

I don't see him as all that write-off-able at this point in the trial. Don't hit me, but he does show some intelligence in the courtroom

I agree with you to a certain extent. I think his bumbling works in his favor SOMETIMES but he also should show strength in what he believes is true fact. That's where he loses me and I tend to believe his inexperience is going to help hang ICA (besides her dastardly deeds). He needs to ask far less questions and stick to his opening statement as the framework for ALL of his questions....who cares what went on with this and that if the state can't prove ICA was the one who deposited the body in the woods. It should be a no-brainer two second cross each time. "Did any of your research reveal evidence that proves Casey carried the baby in those woods?" Hard to argue that point from the SA's perspective.

 

[tlcya]

garbage and trash differential

Pizza defense debunked, wooot woot

 

[darnudes]

Oh gosh, thank you Baez - you really are the gift that keeps on giving.

Did anyone screen cap Baez words of the day for the spelling bee?

Who in their mind attacks someone on the stand about fiscal matters when they have not paid a bill to that witness? I feel off my chair lolling, seriously

 

[zoey]

Two things from the mock juror this morning:

1). The mock juror took the time this morning to review Florida law regarding First Degree murder. The mock juror is now assured that she does not have to know whether or not ICA intended to kill Caylee. Legally, aggravated child abuse (see legal definition) that results in the death of a child falls under First Degree Murder.

2). After listening to Dr. Haskell's testimony today, the mock juror has had many lingering questions answered.

thanks for offering you views.

 

[21merc7]

Back in Court!

 

[Kat]

Jury coming back in. Jenny Welch up.