2011.06.21 TRIAL Day Twenty-four (Afternoon Session)

[shelbar53]

'NO ONE is going to buy an instrument just because they hear about it in a court case!'

BOOYAH Baez!!!

I beg to differ, I called and ordered 2. I mentioned this trial and saved on shipping and handling.

 

[Softail]

JB again, has to have the last word.

 

[Oakley]

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Baez: "Did you find any of that in your Googling?" Wise seems to be getting annoyed.
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Wise says Labrador was designed primarily to be used by law enforcement and military. #CaseyAnthony -jfell
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Jose Baez has finished his redirect of Wise. Ashton recrosses the witness. #CaseyAnthony
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Baez suggests Wise's research on possible sources of chloroform was "about an hour" of Google searches.

 

[Eidetic]

To quote my husband: "Jose is mad at his witness. 'You were supposed to be my friend'..."


(and he is a Baez fan)

 

[newsjunkie]

I was just looking at her and thinking how utterly angry she looks right now. It is beneath the frozen surface, but she is seething right now. I think she is wondering wth Baez was thinking in calling this pro-prosecution witness to the stand.

ITA but it's hard to capture in an image what we see live. This is what I was able to capture.

 

[liltexans]

Baez back up after two questions from Ashton clarifying royalties issue.
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 4:51 PM

Ashton is back up, asking about Labrador. #CaseyAnthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 4:50 PM

 

[ziggy]

Oh no Baez follow up...Judge getting cranky.

Jose is now establishing that this witness would not get a royalty on the Labrador...getting nowhere...witness EXCUSED.

Finally.

 

[okiedokietoo]

I want to hug the Dr!

 

[Turnadot]

There ya go Baez... get him riled!!! Then he'll show where his loyalty is!!

His loyalty is with his science and work.

This isn't Jersey Shore.

 

[Beyond Belief]

Excellent witness for the state, hahahahahah
Recess, seeya.

 

[RR0004]

This poor man.

 

[katydid23]

What is this Labrador obsession that Baez has? He also seems to be projecting his own greed onto others, imo.

 

[Kat]

Holy moly. That was a

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I need some aspirin for real.

 

[wenwe4]

JA w/Dr. Wise -
largest peak was chloroform...some gasoline vapors....not surprised to see gasoline vapors in trunk of car....absolutely not....object not quantitiative analysis - overrule

chloroform relative abundance is highly unusual to him cancer causing chemical....not left sitting out...would not expect find in trunk of vehicle...cant tell you where any chemical came from....chloroform there relative to other chemicals there object- ovrrule - if he can answer - detectible at levels meter in low part per million range - anything above that should register - in a very crude sense...ran concentrated sample - relative abundance to chloroform similar yes....research thru sources as chemist to determine whether it came from car related product...it raised question in my mind...most abundant peak...Dr Vass and I contemplated why it ws there - looked W MSDS sheets for brake cleaners or other cleaners - not exhaustive study - just satisfy own curiousity...don't know where came from or why it is there...couple of hours think of something what it might be and look that up but not every comound ....


is it generally accepted in chemistry community certain polymers can sometimes trap volitals evaps quickly polymers can trap them...almost every material carbon based molecules plastics with carbon bckbone adhere to molecules of carbon....didn't do quantitiative because whatever info you had at that time could not determine where original...don't know temps rate of evap or how often trunk open or closed - no way to make quantitative alanyusis in any ways shape or form...to relate back to that vehicle....no way to know if that piece of carpet was most stained part or least stained part....trunk open or closed - total guess could not be known - didn't do the quantitative analysis ...hypothetical 50 ppm extrapolated to be exact concentratin and that would be totally incorrect....chloroform doesn't increase over time.....decrease...we demonstrated only way chloroform from clean air was evap off of the carpet in the carpet or spill on carpet...opint take it in clean air was to replicate it was coming directly from carpet - correct yes.

note where said an air blank being mostly clean ...quite clean..some modifier like that...run air blank - run room air...usually yes....run room air to see what is in his room...any air from any place is not completely devoid of compounds ...if you look hard enough you will find something in any air sample...lab notes complete record anything out of ordinary so others can know exactly what happened when writing standards of procedures invent protocol for other labs to use - this might be problem to look out for...anything in running of samples out of ordinary? did forget to close a couple valves I noticed right away ....like drive car with flat tire. know right away and correct that....any samples contribute to what found in carpet...6 weeks later best what you could get....can't go back in time and grab sample from 3 weeks before needed it. take it from when you get there....

JB asked about Dr. Vass and qualify...how long worked with him instudies of chemistry 12- 13 years now....work together @ Nat Lab is nat resources of scientists to work together and take advantage of each other's specialty...he has been a major contributor to development of mass spectrometers - protocols for analysis of biological samples - he is eager t o continually learn - Mark teach me what you know - wow how did you know how to do that? teach me...he does that with everyone @ lab not just their group...
object - sustain

no further questions
re-direct

briefly - diffferent projects work w/Dr Vass is labrador - hand held sniffer machine currently patented - co-inventer but not a beneficiary - stand to get royalties - all scientists are required are have Nat. Labs minimal minimal royalties.....this project had all work built to labrador project....every one requires what field constituants that instrument will run in..run field samples such as this run them in the field...build work you did to labrador project....they are consistent with that work but did a lot of work...billed it out to labrador project? very likely yes...as a research scientist have to earn grants for requirements to generate income to the lab...we write proposals to funded research project - one is labrador project research...one of your jobs is requirements to generate funds...all researchers required to seek research funding....makes it a lot easier to sell...object facts not in evidence - labrador of Dr. Vass....designed sensor very different than GCMS - very loose sense can detect human decomp....nobody going to buy a field instrument just because they heard about it in a court proceeding...won't buy if doesn't work - own independent testing and validation there is no way anything in this court proceeding will in any way affect labrador....in patent proposal there is mention that these are validated in court of law? object - scope - sustain

how many times...we ran those samples - no way I had a crystal ball - nothing to do with this case and labrador...sir are you understnd my question? object - sustain

how many times labrador been promoted since involved in this case object -sustain

talk about test all types of enviroment samples...not all kinds but very wide variety ...can't recall carpet sample....object sustain
can't say what expect to find in carpet sample...wide variety carpet samples one from tow yard had chloroform in it ....was that a quantitative analysis? no not indicate ppm or anyting else....qualitative only object - sustian a litel above baseline.

MSDS = not an exhaustive study by any stretch ....google a few products spent about an hour don'tr ecall....reserve opinions limited by googling....cannot say where any chemical came from cannot make that determination...in cleaning products or adhesvies...do not know that -do not see anything to make that determination..

aware chloroform found in cleaning products - don't know hwere chlroform might be...didn't see anything like that....didn't do an exhasustive study of chloroform.

labrador designed for miltary LE - if used by one of those agencies there is no royalties - someone who could not pay you if successful - that is correct..

witness excuse?
JB - quick follow up on that issue object- wait ask your question

didn't understand qustion -if this labrador is produced and sold - as far as I understand any US patent ....I would not get a royalty for government use for federal use? dont know if extends to STate - you do not know? object- sustain asked and answered

thank you sir - be excused

concludes presentation of evidence for today

 

[Curious Me]

Great witness!

 

[Oakley]

Hope that witness goes home to some TLC and a nice dinner after what Jose put him through. Witness did an outstanding job.

 

[ahoyhoy]

"I didn't say he could go..."
THAT WAS THE RUDEST THING I'VE EVER SEEN! OMG!

 

[matou]

According to Law, scientists aren't allowed to make money. JMO

 

[FaerieB]

HHJP reminds lawyers they must be in attendance at 8:30 and the jury WILL walk through the door at 9:00.

 

[okiedokietoo]

HJBP: need to be here at 8:30 if you have matters to bring up - Jury will walk in at 9:00