10:53
DIRECT EXAMINATION BY JB
Crystal Hollaway? I know her by River Cruiz. She came to the command center in October of 2008. He knows her as someone who volunteered and maybe as a friend and someone who was going to help them find Caylee.
She was just a friend, no different than any other volunteer.
He did not have a romantic relationship with her. To him that is very funny and he was never intimate with her. He never borrowed any money from her.
He went to her house on 2 or 3 occasions.
You know you have to pass a guard gate?
OBJECTION - OVERRULED
She has a condo, not an apartment. When you go there, it's gated - you have to show ID.
The first time he went there was based on a conversation in which she related to him that she has a brain tumor and was dying and she needed someone to comfort her. He felt that being a good guy that, because she was helping them, it was the least he could do would be to show her compassion or respect. It was always doing the day.
Were you supposed to be working when you went to see her?
OBJECTION - JA - may we approach?
SIDEBAR #4 (10:57-10:58)
OBJECTION OVERRULED
Were you supposed to be at work? He didn't have an exact work schedule - just started new job - his employer was very lenient.
You weren't going there for any romantic interlude?
OBJECTION - asked and answered - OVERRULED
He went there just to console her.
She also explained the brain tumor to CA. CA did not go to her apartment, but CA knew he was going there.
Prior to finding Caylee, did you tell her Caylee's death was an accident?
To this day, he never found her. To say that I had said something to her that something snowballed out of control? That did not happen. He would never confide to a volunteer. He has always given info to LE and attorneys as honestly and freely as he could.
You never told CH that this was an accident that snowballed?
OBJECTION - asked and answered - SUSTAINED
Your answer was no?
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So the record is clear. Yes or No.
He never told her this was an accident that snowballed out of control.
Did you ever send her a text message that you needed her in your life?
He did send many texts to volunteered and he agreed he did send her this text.
Did you ever leave her any letters that you were trying to speak with her?
It is possible he left her a letter in an effort to cheer her up and make her feel comfortable in her life with what was going on.
Did you at any time tell her not to say anything about her affair with you?
OBJECTION - assumes facts not in evidence - OVERRULED
Sir, I never had a romantic affair with CH or RC. She has a questionable past and she also has been arrested for fraud and breaking and entering.
OBJECTION BY JB - move to strike
I did not have an affair with her, so the answer is NO.
Are you aware she never said anything about the affair until the police came to her?
OBJECTION - assumes facts - SUSTAINED
How many times did you talk to her on the phone between Oct and Jan? He did not know - once, twice, ten times.
He did not believe he spoke to her late at night. He did not believe he would.
CROSS EXAM BY JA
When was it that you knew this lady? He met her at the command center at the skating rink some time around mid October 2008.
After Caylee's remains were found, your relationship ended? Yes, it did.
Did you ever tell River Cruiz that while your daughter was home on bond that you grab your daughter, threw her up against the wall and said, I know you did something to Caylee...... No, I did not.
Witness excused subject to recall. (11:06)