2011.06.29 Sidebar Thread (Trial Day Thirty-One)

[Tipstaff]

After watching today, I really think the Defense should have just gone with a drowning story, and Casey covering it up, and going into denial. They should never have brought the sexual molestation, GA's being part of the cover-up, and Kronk in. Know this has been said before, but feel it all came back to roost the last 2 days.

Think this all was a JB strategy that has harmed many people and didn't help ICA one bit. The defense legal team should have tried to stop JB rather than participate in this defense. JB really dragged them all down the rabbit hole.

 

[TuffysMom]

Need a good excuse to stay home to watch the trial?

Try "food poisoning." It works whdn 'blue flu' wont. Seafood excuse is best cause all know how quick seafood can go over. "I must have eaten a bad piece fish last night."

(once when I had a job I hated I "ate" a lot of "fish.")

My dad ate a bad piece of fish. Two hours later he was dead. It happens.

On a lighter note... I've changed my DOCTOR's appointment 5 times since I started following this trial. Try coming up with excuses to not see your doctor... And I need to see him!

 

[Mamabear1963]

I know there are a lot of speculations about ICA taking the stand here is my understanding...

She is NOT on the list for the DT.


BUT

The judge has to ask her if she wants to take the stand and if she doesn't if it is voluntary and she has to answer herself.

She can answer however she wants and the DT can't stop her. It is her right under the law.

 

[MaryBelle]

Ga: 1+1 = 2

ICA to YM, 2008: [Zanaida] was the last person I've seen my daughter with.

GA today: The last person I saw my granddaughter with was Casey.

 

[Novice Seeker]

So many sad stories. Hearts to you all. As to ICA, I honestly think she disassociated. Whether it was trauma from the killing or accident, I don't know. But that my opinion.

I agree ICA is very disassociated(psychopath tendencies) but IMO it started long before Caylee was murdered. I have yet to see ICA exhibit any form of emotional trauma in the death of her child.

 

[Turnadot]

My dad ate a bad piece of fish. Two hours later he was dead. It happens.

On a lighter note... I've changed my DOCTOR's appointment 5 times since I started following this trial. Try coming up with excuses to not see your doctor... And I need to see him!

OMG, I'm so sorry!!

 

[Talina]

I have a feeling JA is already planning to help them out with that. (I hope.)

I'm hoping LDB or JA work that into their closing argument somehow giving the comparison that Caylee didn't have someone to hold an umbrella over her as she lay there in the swamp being covered by tropical storm faye.

 

[SMK]

One thing I keep going back to is that psychopaths truly believe they can convince, charm, manipulate others into believing them. It worked for Casey, in her mind, for a long time. We've already seen her attempt to manipulate the jury through indirect testimony.

Not a big leap to think she'll want to get her version of the story out there imo.

Right, but I think she will find that Lady Luck has deserted her at this point....

 

[liltexans]

You know it was a BAD day for the defense when LKB says it 'falls somewhere between 1st degree and Manslaughter.'

I actually agree with LKB for the first time. Oh, except for the "falls somewhere between" part. And the "and manslaughter" part.

Otherwise, ITA!

 

[barbtries]

You know it was a BAD day for the defense when LKB says it 'falls somewhere between 1st degree and Manslaughter.'

i'm sorry, who is LKB? TIA

 

[BritsKate]

I actually think JB is trying to do his best to defend her/win...but...I also think he is out of his league...and he should have never agreed to do this case knowing he may not be the best man for the job...but...he needs fame, money and the attention/limelight...and she needs someone that would agree to represent her under her terms...someone she can push around if things are not going her way....JMHO

He is out of his league and obviously incompetent but its the very quest for limelight, money and fame that ensures he is not doing right by his client. A narcissist defending a psychopath.

 

[Turnadot]

i'm sorry, who is LKB? TIA

Linda Kenney Baden

Used to be on KC's defense team, but left. Still very pro-defense.

 

[Amster]

Did anyone else see that clip on HLN of GA walking up to take the stand?? He was walking right up behind JB, who was at the podium. JB realized GA was there and jumped! Scared the beans out of him!! If looks could kill, JB would be dead!

 

[Benchwarmer]

Wow, Benchwarmer, My brother died at 37, in a car accident when his car went off the road, and wasn't found for over a week. There was construction and a piece of the guardrail was missing. He was visiting home from California, where he was living at the time, and wanted to visit some old friends for the 4th of July. We think he must have changed his mind and heading home in the dark, mistook the opening in the guardrail for an exit....He was my World! I was 23 and just married, and I didn't want to live anymore, without him in this world. July 4th is still so painful for me, as he never got to meet my twin boys, and there isn't a day, I don't think of him. My parents grief was overwhelming, he was their only son, and I remember my mother couldn't get over that he was lying out in a ditch for over a week.

This is certainly resurrecting some very painful wounds, July 4th is a terrible day for me, I dread the festivities, as I re-live it every year.

I am so sorry Sweetie...so many loving people in this forum...
I will be praying for you as well as all others who have been affected by tragedy.

 

[tiredblondy]

I love the music and pictures that HLN shows at the end of their program,before going to JVM's show, a memorial to Caylee.

 

[Tipstaff]

i'm sorry, who is LKB? TIA

Linda Kenny Baden a lawyer who used to be part of the Defense Team till the money ran out. She is now an analyst on HLN. Her husband is Michael Baden and Forensic Examiner you still may see also as a talking head.

She has been favorable to the defense in her commentary and many thought she was texting JB question during the trial.

 

[Linda7NJ]

LKB says defense needs to show us why ICA became a killer !!!! she accepts that it was murder???

another finbe example of magical thinking

 

[deelytful1]

:heartluv: & :hug:
For all those sharing your heartwrenching stories about loss. I'm sitting here crying and my son is thinking i've lost it.
It just magnifies the evil that lies within ICAs soul.
Thank you for being so open and honest and i'm sorry that any of us have to feel that kind of pain

 

[Wishbone]

So many sad stories. Hearts to you all. As to ICA, I honestly think she disassociated. Whether it was trauma from the killing or accident, I don't know. But that my opinion.

I wonder what she was traumatized from or disassociated about for years while she had her fake job, phony nanny, stolen money from family, string of lovers and endless parties………sounds like the same old story to me.

 

[pikermom]

I can tell you first hand that grief does not make me want to party. I lost my husband suddenly and tragically one month ago, 5/27.

I am like a crazy lady with Alzheimer's. I can't remember anything, can't sleep. can't eat, can't focus. The thought of going out and trying to be social is not even on my radar.

I can't believe I can post on this thread to be quite honest.

However, I have learned that grief is funny and there is no "normal" standard to measure one's progress in the process.

I think I tend to disassociate a bit...I do the things I HAVE to do and do them well, then I become like a zombie or I am curled up in a ball sobbing. Lots of denial and protecting myself from the reality of it.

I have thought of getting a tattoo for him, but again, thinking it and having the energy to do....that is a long reach to get there.

Just giving my 2 cents about the first 31 days of loss.