2015.08.26 Jimmy Rodgers: Charged with Murder in the Second Degree

[Bently]

http://www.winknews.com/2015/09/02/missouri-man-accused-in-florida-doctors-death-in-court/

Wink video from today (4 pm broadcast?) with written story as it mentions more coming up at 5

Rodgers’ court-appointed attorney in Missouri said her client “didn’t know the people in Florida.”

 

[creepingskills]

http://www.winknews.com/2015/09/02/missouri-man-accused-in-florida-doctors-death-in-court/

Wink video from today (4 pm broadcast?) with written story as it mentions more coming up at 5

Rodgers’ court-appointed attorney in Missouri said her client “didn’t know the people in Florida.”

Maybe JR does not know the victim and/or her family. Now that I'm thinking about it, perhaps CWW hired JR to do any or at least all of the following: use his car/rent a car in JR's name, travel to FL, buy something at Walmart, get rid of the jumpsuit.

 

[Dion]

Well if one of the perps was on the phone at a specific time hopefully they retrieved his phone records. I hope he wasn't bright enough to use a burn phone.

JR's employer called him to ask him to go into work and JR responded that he was in Florida. This tells me that he was using his own phone and not a burner.

It was pretty dumb of him to take his own cellphone, but good for LE who may have been able to track his whereabouts by his cellphone pings. They may even have tracked them to restaurants and hotels which would have video cams, therefore proving where they were (or at least one of them - not sure if they travelled back together).

 

[Bently]

http://www.news-press.com/story/news/crime/2015/09/02/judge-says-jimmy-rodgers-guilty-charge-unrelated-doc-murder/71584508/..Alan Scher Zagier, reporter for Associated Press in St. Louis, contributed to this report.

"The man who had employed Rodgers for about a year at his Cadet, Mo., contracting company said the suspect in the killing of a Bonita Springs doctor told him his trip to Florida in late June was paid for by his brother.

Tyler Juliette, who operates JV Contracting in Cadet, said he didn't know of Rodger's trip until after his employee left.

"The following Tuesday, I talked to him for the first time I had seen him after he came back," Juliette said. "I was joking with him. I asked him why he didn't tell us he was going."

Juliette said Rodgers told him that a brother who had recently graduated from law school had asked him to come down to Florida and had paid for his trip as well as a new wardrobe of clothes."

BBM..as Skinner had mentioned "going to law school"...more at link

 

[Eileen730]

JR's employer called him to ask him to go into work and JR responded that he was in Florida. This tells me that he was using his own phone and not a burner.

It was pretty dumb of him to take his own cellphone, but good for LE who may have been able to track his whereabouts by his cellphone pings. They may even have tracked them to restaurants and hotels which would have video cams, therefore proving where they were (or at least one of them - not sure if they travelled back together).

I wonder if JR knew what was planned?
If he was a hitman he sure wouldn't have his phone with him.

 

[Paulas88]

I agree. It's probably a jump suit from work. JR is a painter, so probably used jump suits often, to protect his clothes.

That could be a good thing. If the jumpsuit is proven to come from his work, and has TS's blood on it. That's pretty damning evidence.

I wonder why he brought it all the way home with him, instead of dumping it anywhere along his long drive back.

I think he kept as insurance that he would not subsequently get "knocked off" by Wright! that would be the reason JR's GF would have been told about the "location of the jumpsuit." Kind of the "if any thing ever happens to me, the evidence is in my locked safety deposit box."

 

[makayla]

I wonder if JR knew what was planned?
If he was a hitman he sure wouldn't have his phone with him.

He had a jumpsuit .... and, remember he's not the sharpest tool in the shed!

 

[No it's not]

'His boss, Tyler Juliette, played a pivotal role in Rodger's arrest. First, he was contacted by a team of investigators. "They told me to tell him his parole officer needed him home for a spot check. That's what we told him," said Juliette. That's when investigators moved in for an arrest.'

http://www.nbc-2.com/story/29935782/sievers-murder-suspects-boss-claims-hand-in-arrest#.VeeobPkl9QI

-Nin

 

[Bently]

Missouri man accused in Florida murder gets 6 months in unrelated federal case
September 02, 2015 11:50 am • By Robert Patrick

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_5deeaabb-487f-53e3-944c-bde836099a43.html

" sentenced Wednesday to six months in federal prison ...

admitted leaving eastern Missouri without permission, but didn't say where he had been....

U.S. District Judge Stephen N. Limbaugh told Rodgers that he could have had a full-blown hearing at which prosecutors and probation officials would have had to prove that he was elsewhere. Rodgers, wearing an orange short-sleeve jail scrub shirt and pants, said he understood that he was giving up his right to that hearing....

Miller said that Rodgers had asked her about Florida's three strikes law. And she did say that Rodgers said, "he didn't know the people in Florida."

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Suspect in Florida doctor's death violates federal probation
17 hours ago • By ALAN SCHER ZAGIER

http://www.stltoday.com/news/nation...cle_0d6231e6-d7b3-5cf3-8505-ce8d594a819a.html

"Jimmy Ray Rodgers, 25, of Cadet, was sentenced to six months in prison for violating his probation in a 2011 case in which he pleaded guilty to being a felon in unlawful possession of a firearm.

Terms of his probation barred him from leaving Missouri, but his probation officer said he was seen at a Wal-Mart store in late June in Fort Myers, Florida. The Gulf Coast city is about 20 miles from where 46-year-old Teresa Sievers was found dead in her Bonita Springs home.

Scott said he expects Wright to be transferred to Florida within 30 to 60 days, while Rodgers "will step out one cell and right into another" once he completes his federal sentence."

 

[Eileen730]

If these men are charged with second degree murder then there is no sign of premeditation so it is not a hired hit at this time Correct?

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

If these men are charged with second degree murder then there is no sign of premeditation so it is not a hired hit at this time Correct?

No... as I understand it, under Florida law only a grand jury can bring a first degree murder charge. Until the grand jury convenes and issues an indictment, 2nd is as high as it can go. Everything we've heard indicates it was premeditated and likely a hired hit.

Moo

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[Eileen730]

To prove second degree murder, a prosecutor must show that the defendant acted according to a "depraved mind" without regard for human life. Florida state laws permit the prosecution of second degree murder when the killing lacked premeditation or planning, but the defendant acted with enmity toward the victim or the two had an ongoing interaction or relationship. Unlike first degree murder, second degree murder does not necessarily require proof of the defendant's intent to kill. - See more at: http://statelaws.findlaw.com/florida-law/florida-second-degree-murder-laws.html#sthash.KpHZqcIo.dpuf

I understand about the grand jury and all and things change but isn't it also important to know who actually killed her?

 

[Eileen730]

For example, Adam and Bill are neighbors, and lately they've been having disagreements over the fence between their properties. Adam pays Bill a visit to discuss the matter, but gets angry in the process, pulls out a gun and shoots and kills Bill. Adam didn't have any plan to kill Bill when he went to Bill's house that day, so there was no premeditation. At the time of the murder, however, Adam fully intended to kill Bill because of his anger over the fence, so there was malice aforethought. Most states that distinguish between degrees of murder would consider that a second degree murder - See more at: http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/second-degree-murder-overview.html#sthash.VgezW25F.dpuf

 

[No it's not]

Clarification:

According to JR's Federal Arrest Warrant, he was seen at the Walmart 14821 6MILE CYPRESS PKWY (SR 865,corner of US 41) in Ft Myers, not the one at Colonial:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2301410-jimmy-rodgers-federal-warrant

6MILE CYPRESS has 2 Walmarts, the other one being located at the North end of the road and accessible via Colonial PKWY just minutes of highway I 75.

The Walmart JR (and CWW) was seen at is less than 2000 feet off the Lee County Sheriff's Office!!! (Next To LEE COUNTY PUBLIC SAFETY)

http://snipurl.com/2a73xhn

Oh the irony! They could have not chosen a more suitable Walmart location from all the W locations in Ft Myers:

http://snipurl.com/2a73wq7

-Nin

 

[Eileen730]

Clarification:

According to JR's Federal Arrest Warrant, he was seen at the Walmart 14821 6MILE CYPRESS PKWY (SR 865,corner of US 41) in Ft Myers, not the one at Colonial:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2301410-jimmy-rodgers-federal-warrant

6MILE CYPRESS has 2 Walmarts, the other one being located at the North end of the road and accessible via Colonial PKWY just minutes of highway I 75.

The Walmart JR (and CWW) was seen at is less than 2000 feet off the Lee County Sheriff's Office!!! (Next To LEE COUNTY PUBLIC SAFETY)

http://snipurl.com/2a73xhn

Oh the irony! They could have not chosen a more suitable Walmart location from all the W locations in Ft Myers:

http://snipurl.com/2a73wq7

-Nin

This is exactly why I do Not think this was a HIT!
When you are going to murder a person U do NOT go to a Walmart they all have video and U do NOT use your phone ad then tell your boss your in Florida!

 

[No it's not]

This is exactly why I do Not think this was a HIT!
When you are going to murder a person U do NOT go to a Walmart they all have video and U do NOT use your phone ad then tell your boss your in Florida!

Unless - one party buys a snickers bar and the other party buys a hammer, just saying. It will be utmost interesting to eventually find out who was at the Sievers house that night (and who was not?).

-Nin

 

[CoolJ]

This is exactly why I do Not think this was a HIT!
When you are going to murder a person U do NOT go to a Walmart they all have video and U do NOT use your phone ad then tell your boss your in Florida!

Especially when Sherriff said they really tried to cover their tracks.

None of it adds up. We are trying to solve a puzzle with a very small percentage of the pieces. It's all just a guessing game right now.

 

[CoolJ]

No... as I understand it, under Florida law only a grand jury can bring a first degree murder charge. Until the grand jury convenes and issues an indictment, 2nd is as high as it can go. Everything we've heard indicates it was premeditated and likely a hired hit.

Moo

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I get how some things point towards premeditation but what do we have that points towards a hired hit?

 

[LvsAMystry]

I get how some things point towards premeditation but what do we have that points towards a hired hit?

The $10k payment, which I get we aren't sure how it's documented yet but as you said we're working with pieces of info on everything

 

[CoolJ]

The $10k payment, which I get we aren't sure how it's documented yet but as you said we're working with pieces of info on everything

That could just as easily point to a botched robbery of some sort.

I don't know. All these theories that have been talked about over the past couple months could be way out in left field compared to what really happened.

It will be interesting to see what the Sherriff has to say on Tricia's radio show. So curious as to why he wants to talk to a Websleuths audience !!