4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #88

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I agree on the waiving the speedy trial possibly, but it has nothing to due with the Prosecution's handling of the case. It's due to the fact that the Defense has spend the last months crafting excessively long winded, unnecessary motions instead of focusing on the real matter at hand....a genuine alibi or defense of BK.

I'm not worried that the State hasn't handled everything by the book.

ALL MOO

Cause they ain't got no defense. It is clear to me his attorney's ONLY HOPE was to get evidence thrown out.

It really doesn't matter anyway.. .he is in jail for life regardless... before trial and after the trial
 
I think it's worth noting that a criminal caught on CCTV carrying out a crime still has a right to a trial of his peers -- and a rigorous defense. IMO the guiltier the defendant and the steeper the evidence, the harder a defense attorney has to work.

I like to think of it like this -- when a prosecution's case is tied up tight, it's like a necklace that's knotted itself beyond hope.

The only way for a defense team to untie that case is to try to create air pockets, miniscule places where arguing tools can pick in.

This defense looks textbook to me. She's doing absolutely everything she can because frankly there's nothing she really can do.

Her client's limited alibi plays right into the crime itself.

He left his DNA at the scene.

Good night.

JMO
 
Imo if he's going to waiver, it'll happen on the deadline which is 8th September. I think this will be about Motion to Dismiss hearing which is set for Sept 1. AT asked for this mini-status conference last Friday just after Judge set the schedule for defense's additional filing (mentioned in court by the D) for that motion. Judge said - file it by 23rd Aug so State can respond by 30th and it can be heard on Sept 1. There was a bit of back and forth and I got the impression that AT felt she might not be ready to file the additional brief by today. Anyway it's not up on COI page yet. I don't think BK will instruct the D to waiver, or the D advise him to waiver, before Motion to Dismiss has been heard. Moo

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I think it is all true, just from different POV's. . This is how most cases are described when you are hearing from various investigators about the same crime scene. One person experiences it one way, the next experiences it somewhat differently.

Payne remembers seeing it at the scene. Baker does not, but does remember being told about it by another investigator.

I don't see why that would be an issue?

When you suggest that 'they write it in one consistent accounting across all documents' -----doesn't that seem problematic?
That would mean taking away the first person accountability and having one person comb through and CHANGE anything that didn't fit the narrative they wanted to set forth, wouldn't it?
If you read what the two officers wrote, sentences 1 and 2 of what each allegedly wrote are identical. Then sentence 3 for each is completely different. And there is a third version of the story where the sheath was half under MM and half under the blanket. If it was half under her, it would not be lying beside her right side. So, right there, this looks very questionable. Where exactly was the sheath when it was found and who found it?
 
I think it's worth noting that a criminal caught on CCTV carrying out a crime still has a right to a trial of his peers -- and a rigorous defense. IMO the guiltier the defendant and the steeper the evidence, the harder a defense attorney has to work.

I like to think of it like this -- when a prosecution's case is tied up tight, it's like a necklace that's knotted itself beyond hope.

The only way for a defense team to untie that case is to try to create air pockets, miniscule places where arguing tools can pick in.

This defense looks textbook to me. She's doing absolutely everything she can because frankly there's nothing she really can do.

Her client's limited alibi plays right into the crime itself.

He left his DNA at the scene.

Good night.

JMO
Love reading your posts, no matter what the case is.
 
It isn't ironic that BK has been expelled/fired from every role he participated in with something he was passionate about. LE training, security guard, TA.

I wonder if once he was selected to those positions if he didn't use them to abuse, stalk or harass women by being in a 'power of position'?

It will be interesting to see what comes out at trial about BK's past.

ALL MOO
He hates women, I think that much is clear. I generally hate all this “Incel” talk, as I think it’s overused. That being said, I believe he has at the very least, something similar going on.
 
In both Payne's statement (arrest warrant/PCA) and Blaker's (search warrant), it states that "Upon our arrival, the Idaho State Police (lSP) Forensic Team was on scene and was ' preparing to begin processing the scene." Payne and Blaker stated that they were there to assist with the processing of the scene. Neither man states that they saw the knife sheath upon their initial basic observation of the room. Both indicated that knowledge of the presence of the knife sheath was acquired later: Payne through observation, Blaker through being told by ISP investigators.

The bodies would not have been moved before Payne and Blaker arrived there. ISP forensics had not yet begun their work. They would want Payne or Blaker there before they did any direct manipulation of the bodies and the immediate area where their bodies were. After Payne and Blaker got the cursory walkthrough of both crime scene rooms, then ISP forensics would begin its work in conjunction with them--hence the use of the term "later" as in after the initial walkthrough. ISP forensics team would be the one to move the sheets significantly and/or begin to shift the bodies of Maddie and Kaylee with Payne observing. Blaker's statement indicates he was not present in the room when that occurred by saying he was told later by ISP--maybe he's in Xana's room with some of the ISP forensics while this is going on or was elsewhere on the premises directing set up of security (another one of their stated reasons for being there). If Payne is standing there watching ISP move the covers and/or bodies, at that point he is in place to directly observe the sheath becoming visible and register that as information.
Well explained! This is exactly the way I understand the documents. I simply don't see where the issue is. LE follow professional procedures unless incompetent and there's nothing to suggest anything close to that in those affidavits. In addition to the points you make, I also keep in mind that the two affidavits are summaries designed to support an arrest and search warrant respectively. Each officer would also have documented their experience and the procedures they followed in more detail than what we see here. Moo
 
It isn't ironic that BK has been expelled/fired from every role he participated in with something he was passionate about. LE training, security guard, TA.

I wonder if once he was selected to those positions if he didn't use them to abuse, stalk or harass women by being in a 'power of position'?

It will be interesting to see what comes out at trial about BK's past.

ALL MOO
Very interesting point.

This seems to be the case, somewhat, with his TA position. A student said he liked a female student and so everyone made sure she wasn't alone with him and there were other complaints like he followed a student to her car and basically made women uncomfortable. The positions of authority really went to his head regarding his actions towards females.

I just read yesterday that a former friend of his wasn't surprised by his arrest because BK didn't understand why women turned down his advances and he would be upset and not move on like normal.

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I think it's worth noting that a criminal caught on CCTV carrying out a crime still has a right to a trial of his peers -- and a rigorous defense. IMO the guiltier the defendant and the steeper the evidence, the harder a defense attorney has to work.

I like to think of it like this -- when a prosecution's case is tied up tight, it's like a necklace that's knotted itself beyond hope.

The only way for a defense team to untie that case is to try to create air pockets, miniscule places where arguing tools can pick in.

This defense looks textbook to me. She's doing absolutely everything she can because frankly there's nothing she really can do.

Her client's limited alibi plays right into the crime itself.

He left his DNA at the scene.

Good night.

JMO
And I would much rather this happen now than the defense to roll over and open up grounds for appeals based on inadequate defense. Make all the arguments for innocence possible, it just helps solidify the ultimate conviction.
 
If you read what the two officers wrote, sentences 1 and 2 of what each allegedly wrote are identical. Then sentence 3 for each is completely different. And there is a third version of the story where the sheath was half under MM and half under the blanket. If it was half under her, it would not be lying beside her right side. So, right there, this looks very questionable. Where exactly was the sheath when it was found and who found it?
So what are you implying here? And what other evidence is there to support it other than your interpretation of differing descriptive words on a page?

Sounds like you're saying the sheath was planted and/or placed there by LE or someone else...or you want us to arrive at that conclusion. I can't think of anything else that it would/could be.
 
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Why would it matter so much to the family if BK waives the speedy trial right or not? I feel I'm being an idiot for not immediately understanding why they're asking for prayers today in particular.

Idaho murder victim's family asks for prayers, fears delay in Kohberger trial​

  • Aug 23, 2023

On a public Facebook page maintained by the Goncalves family, a post Wednesday morning said, "Please pray for our family today."

In a response to a comment on that post, the page author wrote "We are afraid he's going to waive his rights to a speedy trial. If he does, trial will not be starting on October 2nd and it is very likely that it won't take place for years. We want to get this trial over. Just thinking it could be years absolutely kills me."
 
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