Interested to learn if defense is receptive to empanelling a jury from outside of Latah County and bringing them to Moscow for the duration of the trial. Can't see why they would object to that, other than wanting to inflict frustration and inconvenience on the victim's families with the goal of making a plea deal more likely.
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Still early but personally I can't see moving everything to Boise. The cost, the logistics, the disruption.
Even this expert spoke in terms of news stories a person might see, not that they did see.
Jury of one's peers. Either jurors can set their bias and exposure aside or they can't.
I don't think you move a trial to a place where there's no exposure or less exposure. You seek jurors who can be impartial.
I wonder if we'll get a ruling today or if JJ will take it under advisement.
Does he have the discretion to anchor the trial but request jurors from an adjacent county? Seems like an easier remedy if he finds media impact/bias in Latah County.
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Even this expert spoke in terms of news stories a person might see, not that they did see.
Jury of one's peers. Either jurors can set their bias and exposure aside or they can't.
I don't think you move a trial to a place where there's no exposure or less exposure. You seek jurors who can be impartial.
I wonder if we'll get a ruling today or if JJ will take it under advisement.
Does he have the discretion to anchor the trial but request jurors from an adjacent county? Seems like an easier remedy if he finds media impact/bias in Latah County.
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So do you think BK's lawyers are lying in court when they said they firmly believe that BK is not guilty?
Were you aware that they've gone out of their way to say they believe he is not guilty?
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Defense attorneys can do that because they're usually careful to not ask too many questions of their client. They don't want to catch them in a lie that incriminates them. They let the defendant tell their story, then build the defense strategy from there, often using more than 1 alternative argument for why their client is innocent. IANAL
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JMO, I still think the judge will allow them to try to seat a jury in Moscow first before changing venue/bringing jurors in from out of town.
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We're back on the record. An EWU Professor is taking the stand, discussing how publicity of a case can shape potential jurors. Specifically, how jurors might struggle to be objective because of media saturation, among other issues.
Her name is Dr. Amani El-Alayi, a social psychologist
We're back on the record. An EWU Professor is taking the stand, discussing how publicity of a case can shape potential jurors. Specifically, how jurors might struggle to be objective because of media saturation, among other issues.
Her name is Dr. Amani El-Alayi, a social psychologist
I'm already finding some flaws in the studies she's quoting, in the metanalysis. Having a group fill out a survey, then evaluating their bias after the fact isn't sufficient to measure how objective subjects are. To replicate the jury selection process, you would need to develop 2 experimental groups - one a group of people who are exposed to the stimulus, then giving their opinions; the second group would be exposed to stimulus, but before measuring their opinion, give them a talk about how to remain unbiased in spite of what they've heard or read, and base their opinion only on what they hear and see in the trial, then measure their opinion.
That's how voir dire works, right?
When using meta analysis, you have to read the details of each trial used in the analysis and judge how well it's designed. Not all are equal in quality.
That's how voir dire works, right?
When using meta analysis, you have to read the details of each trial used in the analysis and judge how well it's designed. Not all are equal in quality.
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I'm trying to forego judgment but these two witnesses aren't exactly bombshelly. This is all very intuitive.
The science behind how we form our biases doesn't speak to the capacity to set them aside.
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The science behind how we form our biases doesn't speak to the capacity to set them aside.
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This is an interesting 1-2 punch by the defense: they open with a witness proving Latah County is saturated with the most news about this case in the state, then follow with an expert in social psychologist who says these stories often create pretrial bias and assumption of guilt
For instance, she references classical conditioning: When media pairs a defendants picture with aversive terms, murder details, well-known killers, it often illicits a negative response from viewers.
This is an interesting 1-2 punch by the defense: they open with a witness proving Latah County is saturated with the most news about this case in the state, then follow with an expert in social psychologist who says these stories often create pretrial bias and assumption of guilt
For instance, she references classical conditioning: When media pairs a defendants picture with aversive terms, murder details, well-known killers, it often illicits a negative response from viewers.
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Sigh.
Solid tutorial on anatomy of a juror's mind.
Truly it's not possible to remove all bias, conscious and subconscious, but it's the system we use.
Boy, they're going all out to get the trial moved. But so far, I'm not hearing anything unique to this case and the challenge of juror bias that isn't true in any high publicity trial.
Expert: I think it would be hard for anyone in this community to be on the jury.
Not exactly empirical.
Her recommendation: move the trial as far away as possible.
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Solid tutorial on anatomy of a juror's mind.
Truly it's not possible to remove all bias, conscious and subconscious, but it's the system we use.
Boy, they're going all out to get the trial moved. But so far, I'm not hearing anything unique to this case and the challenge of juror bias that isn't true in any high publicity trial.
Expert: I think it would be hard for anyone in this community to be on the jury.
Not exactly empirical.
Her recommendation: move the trial as far away as possible.
JMO
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State coming in hot -- these are jury issues in any trial.
Cites percentages not connected to the college. Asks expert whether drawing a larger pool of potential jurors could answer the challenge of bias/exposure.
Cites percentages not connected to the college. Asks expert whether drawing a larger pool of potential jurors could answer the challenge of bias/exposure.
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Not much faith in our jurors to do their civic duty?
I believe there are jurors who can be unbiased, fair, and impartial, etc. imo
I believe there are jurors who can be unbiased, fair, and impartial, etc. imo
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Dr. Amani El-Alayi's conclusion: using jurors who have had less exposure to this story and are as far removed from Latah County as possible.
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Dr. Amani El-Alayi's conclusion: using jurors who have had less exposure to this story and are as far removed from Latah County as possible.
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Next witness: Brian Edelman, trial consultant
Helps write voir dire questions!
I am so curious to see if JJ is going cut right through this.
So far, I'm not seeing anything that compels enough for moving the trial.
Her best argument, if she makes it, might be capacity of venue, whether Latah County can absorb the influx of witnesses, media, etc, but I'm not sure that alone is reason enough.
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Helps write voir dire questions!
I am so curious to see if JJ is going cut right through this.
So far, I'm not seeing anything that compels enough for moving the trial.
Her best argument, if she makes it, might be capacity of venue, whether Latah County can absorb the influx of witnesses, media, etc, but I'm not sure that alone is reason enough.
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Assuming potential jurors answer questions truthfully (which is not always the case) I believe voir dire can often find out what potential jurors consciously think. ("To see them say") But often the problem is what jurors may unconsciously think. Unconscious thoughts about a defendant's guilt may come from lots of things but media coverage & bias is one.) I don't think it's possible for attorneys to deliver an effective lesson during voir dire on how "outsmart" one's unconscious bias. And signs of that bias may arise during deliberations. I saw it happen when I was on a jury and I can promise the voir dire had been thorough. (During lengthy and sometimes heated deliberations someone said "he probably wouldn't have been arrested if he wasn't guilty.")
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