Here's Danville Metro PD FB pg dated FEB 19, 2017 with the still image of BG
Yep, that's ra. Give him the dp
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Here's Danville Metro PD FB pg dated FEB 19, 2017 with the still image of BG
If that's Due Process, I agree.Yep, that's ra. Give him the dp
From my understanding, we now know that the second sketch, YBG, came from BB, as the man she saw on the bridge (I assume I don't have to link the PCA and FM again?). I sincerely want to make sure that I understand where everyone is coming from on here, because I keep seeing it suggested that the YBG sketch is a_shots or some other random person. Is the thought that the D was lying in the FM about BB's witness statement, which was attached as an exhibit for the judge? Or is the idea that BB saw a younger man but he wasn't the one on the bridge? Or is it that BB is not the one who saw YBG? I apologize for being confused, but I want to make sure I don't have my facts wrong about the BB/YBG/bridge detail.
I think YBG came from BB since she allegedly saw "a young guy with poofy hair on the bridge" and the YBG sketch seems a young guy with poofy hair. I think she saw BG some feet away and isn't very reliable as eye witness. We will have to wait for her testimony to discover if she says the young guy with poofy hair that she saw on the bridge is the guy on the video (BG). I think she will be used for the D and P will attack her testimony.From my understanding, we now know that the second sketch, YBG, came from BB, as the man she saw on the bridge (I assume I don't have to link the PCA and FM again?). I sincerely want to make sure that I understand where everyone is coming from on here, because I keep seeing it suggested that the YBG sketch is a_shots or some other random person. Is the thought that the D was lying in the FM about BB's witness statement, which was attached as an exhibit for the judge? Or is the idea that BB saw a younger man but he wasn't the one on the bridge? Or is it that BB is not the one who saw YBG? I apologize for being confused, but I want to make sure I don't have my facts wrong about the BB/YBG/bridge detail.
If confusion requires apologies this case owes me a big one. I can't answer your questions, but I look forward to seeing the answers.I apologize for being confused, but I want to make sure I don't have my facts wrong about the BB/YBG/bridge detail.
I wish I had more info. Did BB see the girls?I think YBG came from BB since she allegedly saw "a young guy with poofy hair on the bridge" and the YBG sketch seems a young guy with poofy hair. I think she saw BG some feet away and isn't very reliable as eye witness.
BBM. That's the part that bothers me about what LE said. They did express to the public that they were not the same person. Like you said, it could have been conflicting opinions within LE. I tend to think LE reached a point where they really weren't clear if there was one, or two men dressed similarly that day (one seen by the group of girls, the other by BB). However, what does seem clear is that YBG was the man BB saw on the bridge.I think YBG came from BB since she allegedly saw "a young guy with poofy hair on the bridge" and the YBG sketch seems a young guy with poofy hair. I think she saw BG some feet away and isn't very reliable as eye witness. We will have to wait for her testimony to discover if she says the young guy with poofy hair that she saw on the bridge is the guy on the video (BG). I think she will be used for the D and P will attack her testimony.
But since some LE said the sketches are not the same person, some people think the YBG was from anthony shots and it was a tactic from LE. I think it was just conflict opinions from different officers and again, a bit messy investigation.
He said not see them, said he left the bridge and went and sat on a bench.
I wish I had more info. Did BB see the girls?
I’ll try this again. They are telling us to focus on BG (supposed killer/down the hill guy) yet they are telling us that BB’s sketch is the killer. To me, BB’s sketch (first sketch, second to be released in 2019) looks nothing like BG. Maybe my brain isn’t working right today? I thought it was clear the first time, but…..I guess not .
Eta: I don’t think RA resembles the second sketch released, AT ALL.
An estimate suggests ~100 acronyms used in this threadIf that's Due Process, I agree.
Per your second bold, I think the Frank's Memo purposefully conflates descriptions.New Delphi murders sketch released
The new sketch shared Monday depicts a man who appears much younger than the original sketch. Carter said the old sketch is now being considered secondary.
Master Trooper Taylor Bryant, a sketch artist with Indiana State Police who drew the new sketch, told IndyStar a sketch is based on how a particular witness describes the suspect. If there are several witnesses, Bryant would draw a sketch for each description. Bryant did not draw the sketch that police released in July 2017.
"The witness is the main focus. So there’s no input from law enforcement at all in the generating of a sketch, other than my presence as the artist."
Bryant uses a "facial identification reference sheet" that has a list of different categories, from head shapes to different eyebrows and noses. The person will describe the suspect based on those categories. "(It's) easier to do that than to describe (the suspect) using just words," Bryant said.
The sketches are not exact, Bryant said. The renderings are a "ballpark estimation of what the person looks like."
The sketch released on Monday was drawn by Bryant on Feb. 17, 2017, a few days after the victims' bodies were found. The picture was based on the description of a person who saw something that the person felt needed to be reported, according to Bryant.
Delphi murders: New sketch of killer, video from Libby's phone released
Police released new evidence in the 2017 murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German in Delphi, Indiana.www.indystar.com
BBM. That's the part that bothers me about what LE said. They did express to the public that they were not the same person. Like you said, it could have been conflicting opinions within LE. I tend to think LE reached a point where they really weren't clear if there was one, or two men dressed similarly that day (one seen by the group of girls, the other by BB). However, what does seem clear is that YBG was the man BB saw on the bridge.
not a DC hater. no reason to be a DC hater. This is the nature of bureaucracy and chain of command. Of course DC sincerely cares.Aw. Yeah, he has a lot of haters. I’m not among them. Despite being all over the place, I appreciate his passion for this case.
But that's not what they said.What if the YBG sketch was generated from recall by a friend of Libby's, recalled the individual whom Libby had been messaging? Later discovered/cinfirmed when LE got into Libby's phone which is when LE changed the direction of their investigation.
AMEN!So ready for all of this to be cleared up!
RSBM. I think so too, but it seems during this pre-trial phase, it's fallen on deaf ears, IMO. JG isn't worried about it, and neither is a lot of the public. Seventy days of lost interviews, the partial loss of the Oct. 26 interview, possible omissions in the PCA, possibly not following up on valid lines of investigations, NMcL gaining access to, reading, quoting, and simply withdrawing his motions on the D's ex parte motions with no repercussions, are only some of the questionable conduct by the State, and it's all but ignored. If the D dare argues it, it's just because they have nothing else. They can't do anything but lie, conflate, or throw crap at the walls since they are a joke. Trial might come and we find out RA is unequivocally BG, the State's mistakes were insignificant, and the Ds are a total P O S, but I'm certainly not ready to confine my opinions to that at this point, before we know really anything. JMO.IMO, the loss of evidence the first 70 days is not water under the bridge; it's the beginning of the Defense's attack on the investigation.
JMHO
Do you swear on the WS community rules to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth? love it!appreciate it. that helps! still interesting. Do we get to send question suggestions into the court?
Clerk: "Your Honor, Miss Emma Peel the Websleuth is ready to approach the Witness with one permitted very curious earworm question."