Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #194

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It can be common in a small town for some folks to prefer to seek medical assistance from out of town to ensure complete privacy. MOO

There are so many towns closer to Delphi than 90 minutes that would still give him complete privacy. Heck, West Lafayette where Purdue University is, is 26 min away. Greencastle is at least 90 min.
 
There are so many towns closer to Delphi than 90 minutes that would still give him complete privacy. Heck, West Lafayette where Purdue University is, is 26 min away. Greencastle is at least 90 min.

Do you have a better theory? Because at this point in time we don’t have a clue why doctor was subpoenaed, if she always practised in the same town, nor what possible connection she might’ve had to RA.

But she must’ve been of interest to the D for a specific reason, which motivated their rushed attempt to subpoena her. MOO

 
Do you have a better theory? Because at this point in time we don’t have a clue why doctor was subpoenaed, if she always practised in the same town, nor what possible connection she might’ve had to RA.

But she must’ve been of interest to the D for a specific reason, which motivated their rushed attempt to subpoena her. MOO


The defense doesn’t need a reason. They think they can do anything they dang well please. Rules don’t apply to them.
A lot of their denied motions involve at least one element of them not properly following court procedure or actual state law.
Arrogance.
 
Unless she knew or treated RA for something, maybe she was the one that proscribed his Prozac. IDK

MOO
It was shown somewhere upthread that she did not become an MD until 2021. And her practice is very far away from Delphi. Don't think he'd go so far when there are lots of medical practices much closer to home.

I'm wondering if she was treating an entirely different person than RA? Maybe one of the SODDIS?
 
It was shown somewhere upthread that she did not become an MD until 2021. And her practice is very far away from Delphi. Don't think he'd go so far when there are lots of medical practices much closer to home.

I'm wondering if she was treating an entirely different person than RA? Maybe one of the SODDIS?
Maybe this doc isn’t / hasn’t treated RA but someone else involved in this case? Too far behind and don’t know even what kinda doc she is.
 
It was shown somewhere upthread that she did not become an MD until 2021. And her practice is very far away from Delphi. Don't think he'd go so far when there are lots of medical practices much closer to home.

I'm wondering if she was treating an entirely different person than RA? Maybe one of the SODDIS?
Maybe The son of the SoDDI who was dating Abby?
 
Just as an aside, AB wasn’t at the recent hearing for RA as another of his defendants was facing trial for charges involving a triple murder. The jury found his client guilty on three counts of murder, two counts of felony murder and more. This won’t be a time of celebrating legal successes for AB. JMO

 
RA's confessions to DR W, the warden, guards, inmates, medical personal, ISP and his family members were all voluntarily given, not coerced by any State agents, not due to his pre-trial incarceration nor his depression or anxiety conditions. So says the Judge...all admissable

08/29/2024Order Issued
The Court, having had this matter under advisement following a hearing conducted on July 31, 2024, on the Defendant's Motion to Suppress Statements (filed April 11, 2024), the State's Objection to Defendant's Motion to Suppress Filed April 11, 2024 (filed April 23, 2024), the State's Motion to Dismiss the Motion to Suppress Filed April 11, 2024 (filed May 17, 2024), and the State's Motion for Admissibility (filed May 6, 2024), and having considered the witnesses' testimony, the exhibits admitted into evidence, the arguments of counsel, and the applicable statutes and case law, now grants the State's Request for Pre-Trial Ruling on Admissibility pursuant to I.C. 25-33-1-17. The statements given by defendant to Dr. Monica H. Wala, Psy.D., are not privileged based upon the exception noted in the Statute, "(1) Trials for homicide when the disclosure relates directly to the fact or immediate circumstances of said homicide." All statements given by defendant to Dr. Wala are admissible in the trial. Defendant's arguments to the contrary go to the weight the jury would give such statements, not their admissibility. Having taken the State's Motion to Dismiss the Motion to Suppress Filed April 11, 2024 under advisement at the hearing, the Court agrees with the State that the defendant has failed to comply with the Criminal Rules of Procedure by neglecting to clearly state which specific statements he is seeking to suppress, nor the legal basis for the suppression. Despite these deficiencies, the Court has been able to determine that the statements given to the defendant's family members were voluntary, not coerced by any State action, and were not made under threats of violence, or improper influence. Although the Defendant is clearly in custody, he initiated the communication with his family and was not subject to custodial interrogation when he spoke to this family. Further, the statements given by defendant to the correctional officers, inmate companions, the Warden, mental health personnel, medical personnel, and the Indiana State Police were unsolicited by any of those individuals and were voluntarily given without coercion or interrogation. The defendant has not shown that he suffered from psychological coercion by the State which caused him to make these statements. To the contrary, the evidence shows he specifically sought out the Warden by written communication he initiated, and verbal statements he offered to guards, inmate companions, mental health professionals, and medical personnel. The defendant has failed to show any of these statements were the result of coercive interrogation by the State, or that they were the result of his pre-trial detention. The totality of the circumstances of defendant's pre-trial detention were not intended to force confessions from the defendant. The defendant's pre-trial detention is to protect him from harm. The Court is not persuaded that the detention caused the defendant to make incriminating statements. While the defendant does suffer from major depressive disorder and anxiety, those are not serious mental illnesses that prevent the defendant from making voluntary statements. The Court finds the statements given by the defendant to Dr. Wala, the Warden, inmates, guards, medical personnel, mental health professionals, and law enforcement personnel were not coerced, were voluntary, were not the result of interrogation by the State or its actors, nor the product of his confinement and, therefore, denies the defendant's Motion to Suppress Statements filed April 11, 2024.
Judicial Officer:
Gull, Frances -SJ
Noticed:
McLeland, Nicholas Charles
Noticed:
Baldwin, Andrew Joseph
Noticed:
Rozzi, Bradley Anthony
Noticed:
Luttrull, James David JR
Noticed:
Diener, Stacey Lynn
Noticed:
Auger, Jennifer Jones
Order Signed:

Not surprising

I am glad she notes that the defence failed to particularise the basis for suppressing each statement in turn. Indeed in the original motion, they neglected to mention entire categories. MOO

the Court agrees with the State that the defendant has failed to comply with the Criminal Rules of Procedure by neglecting to clearly state which specific statements he is seeking to suppress, nor the legal basis for the suppression.
 
Not surprising

I am glad she notes that the defence failed to particularise the basis for suppressing each statement in turn. Indeed in the original motion, they neglected to mention entire categories. MOO
It seems the D has neglected to do a lot in their motions and also have gone too far in others, MO

By requesting, at the SCOIN, those lawyers to be reinstated to him, has RA given up the right to claim ineffectual representation?
 
RA was being video recorded 24/7 at Westville as a Defendant in a heinous double child homicide. The State has video evidence and written letters by RA himself that will prove he was not coerced by evil Odins or corrupt prison personnel.

According to his own Attorneys, RA was adjusting as well as can be expected from Nov until...the State's Discovery Dump in late March-early April. He was engaging in his defense, affable, good natured according to his own Defense. RA had been treated with depression and anxiety like millions of the population. He was obviously leading a productive life. Steady employment, financially stable, enjoyed pool tournaments and socializing down at the local pub, traveled with his wife.

His mental health changed significantly AFTER discovery. How coincidental?? He destroys his tablet, head slams himself, eats paper, poo. I'd say that was the cold, hard reality of his monstrous actions slapping him in the face.

Thank goodness the JURY will be able to see RA's actions on video verses the Defenses spiel of poor Rick, down in a hole in solitary confinement, being harassed and tormented by evil Odin Guards, pushed into psychosis, etc. The JURY will see these video confessions and read his letters of confessions and the context in which they were made.

RA saw his life, family and everything he supposedly cared about circling the drain and knew his secrets were coming out for all to see. The jury will see the before Discovery Rick and the after Rick.

MOO

#Justice4Abby&Libby
 
RA was being video recorded 24/7 at Westville as a Defendant in a heinous double child homicide. The State has video evidence and written letters by RA himself that will prove he was not coerced by evil Odins or corrupt prison personnel.

According to his own Attorneys, RA was adjusting as well as can be expected from Nov until...the State's Discovery Dump in late March-early April. He was engaging in his defense, affable, good natured according to his own Defense. RA had been treated with depression and anxiety like millions of the population. He was obviously leading a productive life. Steady employment, financially stable, enjoyed pool tournaments and socializing down at the local pub, traveled with his wife.

His mental health changed significantly AFTER discovery. How coincidental?? He destroys his tablet, head slams himself, eats paper, poo. I'd say that was the cold, hard reality of his monstrous actions slapping him in the face.

Thank goodness the JURY will be able to see RA's actions on video verses the Defenses spiel of poor Rick, down in a hole in solitary confinement, being harassed and tormented by evil Odin Guards, pushed into psychosis, etc. The JURY will see these video confessions and read his letters of confessions and the context in which they were made.

RA saw his life, family and everything he supposedly cared about circling the drain and knew his secrets were coming out for all to see. The jury will see the before Discovery Rick and the after Rick.

MOO

#Justice4Abby&Libby


Yes and I bet he has a lot of secrets he doesn’t want coming out. He definitely didn’t just wake up that day and decided to kill 2 children.

He will have skeletons in Cupboard no doubt.

IMO
 
And there it is. So where do we go from here?
MOO D might appeal the ruling on admission of confessions. RA might plead guilty. RA might be harmed in jail. Or we might proceed to trial as planned.

I don’t think the first will happen as I don’t think D meet requirement to exclude the confessions. I don’t think RA will plead guilty as he will want the opportunity to appeal. I hope he isn’t harmed in jail so he can be tried in court. So perhaps that leaves proceeding to trial?
MOO
 
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But that family lived in Delphi. Why travel 90 minutes to go to a random MD?
I think, they needed possibly a D.O., and Dr. Fidler is a D.O.
Google:
A doctor of osteopathic medicine, also known as a D.O., is a fully trained and licensed doctor. A doctor of osteopathic medicine graduates from a U.S. osteopathic medical school.

Doctors of osteopathic medicine (DOs) practice a whole-person approach, which means they consider both the physical and mental needs of their patients. DOs strive to help patients be truly healthy in mind and body — not just free of symptoms.

After Osteopathic Treatment, it is not uncommon to experience a reaction. This treatment reaction typically unfolds over a 3-day period. It will gradually build for 1½ days and gradually subside for 1½ days. The reaction may be experienced as increased pain or soreness, tiredness or even sadness.
 

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