Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #197

[FromGermany1]

It’s so strange how little we know about Richard Allen, no social media, no online presence, no run in’s with the law. It’s very rare these days.

Being a bit suspect, in my eyes.

 

[Salah11]

Another Day closer to justice for Abby and Libby

 

[Vern]

D-11 ... ...

 

[steeltowngirl]

agreed. none of this fits with the cat fishers known MO which was to obtain photos via deception. He did not meet with victims.

The shots profile attempted to meet with victims.

*Original press release below

Detectives with the Delphi Investigation Seek Information

While investigating the murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German, detectives with the Carroll County Sheriff’s Office and the Indiana State Police have uncovered an online profile named anthony_shots. This profile was being used from 2016 to 2017 on social media applications, including but not limited to, Snapchat and Instagram. The fictitious anthony_shots profile used images of a known male model and portrayed himself as being extremely wealthy and owning numerous sports cars. The creator of the fictitious profile used this information while communicating with juvenile females to solicit nude images, obtain their addresses, and attempt to meet them. Pictured below, you’ll see images of the known male model and images the fictitious anthony_shots profile sent to underage females.

https://963xke.com/2022/04/13/delphi-murder-investigation-eyes-to-two-more-apps/

 

[Andieinsyd]

I still think that this crime was opportunistic but that RA was there that day hoping to commit a sexual assault and possibly murder. I personally don’t think he specifically targeted Libby.
I think he followed BB as she turned around and walked away from the bridge, but then saw A&L and made the decision. He followed them onto the bridge, had his gun out, grabbed Abby and held gun to her and ordered them both down the hill. I think he knew the area well, and wanted to get to a place that was isolated so forced them to cross the creek and climb the bank. I don’t think he had anything specifically against Libby, but in the moment responded to the girls and scene. I think it was absolutely sexually motivated.
Still hoping RA will plead guilty and be locked up to be forgotten about and rot.
I also wonder if there is evidence of CSAM on any of his devices that they found. If this is the case, IMO that would make this trial a slam dunk and I wonder if the State will bring the death penalty onto the table in the next fortnight.
MOO

 

[girlhasnoname]

It’s so strange how little we know about Richard Allen, no social media, no online presence, no run in’s with the law. It’s very rare these days.

LE was called to the Allen residence in 2015 for a domestic disturbance, IIRC KA took him to the hospital. I think there will be other things coming out at trial that may surprise us.

JMO

 

[girlhasnoname]

Maybe it was a misunderstanding. Motive is not required to be proven for a conviction to occur, probably since it’s impossible to know what’s in a murderer’s head. What if the kidnapping began simply to frighten them but became a sexual assault after the victims began fighting back (or after death) since it aroused his feeling of male dominance? This is why I’d wonder how motive can be determined, aside from a full confession. Sometimes the perp doesn’t even know what caused him/her to spiral off the deep end, or at least won’t admit the reason.

But granted, generally the prosecution presents a theory of what they believe was the motive.

As for RA, if he indeed was a sexual predator I’d definitely wonder about his prior history? It would be hard to believe he suddenly began catfishing and murdering at his older age.
MOO

I don't think RA just began doing whatever I believe he did online as far as CSAM or catfishing in general in Feb of 2017. He might have been doing it secretly for years or there may have been significant changes in his life that took him down that road. He sure had a lot of external drives, phones, etc retrieved from his home during the SW.

It could have been a combination of things that caused him to murder Abby and Libby that day, but I do not believe it was totally random, and I do not believe it was anything that they did which caused him to snap.

RA went to MHB on a mission on that day, at that time, and sadly Abby and Libby will never again be among the living for it. Hopefully, there can and will be Justice for them, which is all that can happen now so they may RIP.

#Justice4Abby&Libby

MOO

 

[girlhasnoname]

I still think that this crime was opportunistic but that RA was there that day hoping to commit a sexual assault and possibly murder. I personally don’t think he specifically targeted Libby.
I think he followed BB as she turned around and walked away from the bridge, but then saw A&L and made the decision. He followed them onto the bridge, had his gun out, grabbed Abby and held gun to her and ordered them both down the hill. I think he knew the area well, and wanted to get to a place that was isolated so forced them to cross the creek and climb the bank. I don’t think he had anything specifically against Libby, but in the moment responded to the girls and scene. I think it was absolutely sexually motivated.
Still hoping RA will plead guilty and be locked up to be forgotten about and rot.
I also wonder if there is evidence of CSAM on any of his devices that they found. If this is the case, IMO that would make this trial a slam dunk and I wonder if the State will bring the death penalty onto the table in the next fortnight.
MOO

I always say anything is possible in this case. We've seen a lot in the past 7+ years, I'm just hoping for Justice whatever that ends up looking like.

MOO

 

[steeltowngirl]

Indiana Courts Case Search - MyCase

Indiana Supreme Court, Public Access

public.courts.in.gov

Witness and/or Exhibit List Filed Defendant's Notice of Submission of Supplemental Witness and Exhibit List to the State Filed By: Allen, Richard M. File Stamp: 10/01/2024​

Praecipe for Transcript Filed Praecipe for Transcript Filed By: Allen, Richard M. File Stamp: 10/01/2024​

Notice to Court Filed Supplemental Witness List and Exhibit Notice 3.pdf Filed By: State of Indiana File Stamp: 10/01/2024​

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[Tealgrove]

Indiana Courts Case Search - MyCase

Indiana Supreme Court, Public Access

public.courts.in.gov

Witness and/or Exhibit List Filed Defendant's Notice of Submission of Supplemental Witness and Exhibit List to the State Filed By: Allen, Richard M. File Stamp: 10/01/2024​

Praecipe for Transcript Filed Praecipe for Transcript Filed By: Allen, Richard M. File Stamp: 10/01/2024​

Notice to Court Filed Supplemental Witness List and Exhibit Notice 3.pdf Filed By: State of Indiana File Stamp: 10/01/2024​

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This is good news. It appears that we are actually moving toward trial. The D is finally doing what it’s supposed to be doing.

MOO

 

[girlhasnoname]

Indiana Courts Case Search - MyCase

Indiana Supreme Court, Public Access

public.courts.in.gov

Witness and/or Exhibit List Filed Defendant's Notice of Submission of Supplemental Witness and Exhibit List to the State Filed By: Allen, Richard M. File Stamp: 10/01/2024​

Praecipe for Transcript Filed Praecipe for Transcript Filed By: Allen, Richard M. File Stamp: 10/01/2024​

Notice to Court Filed Supplemental Witness List and Exhibit Notice 3.pdf Filed By: State of Indiana File Stamp: 10/01/2024​

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Looks like the D has finally been busy defending their client RA. Interesting about the Supplemental Witness List. I wonder who they've added after the 3 day hearings?

MOO

 

[StarryStarryNight]

I still think that this crime was opportunistic but that RA was there that day hoping to commit a sexual assault and possibly murder. I personally don’t think he specifically targeted Libby.
I think he followed BB as she turned around and walked away from the bridge, but then saw A&L and made the decision. He followed them onto the bridge, had his gun out, grabbed Abby and held gun to her and ordered them both down the hill. I think he knew the area well, and wanted to get to a place that was isolated so forced them to cross the creek and climb the bank. I don’t think he had anything specifically against Libby, but in the moment responded to the girls and scene. I think it was absolutely sexually motivated.
Still hoping RA will plead guilty and be locked up to be forgotten about and rot.
I also wonder if there is evidence of CSAM on any of his devices that they found. If this is the case, IMO that would make this trial a slam dunk and I wonder if the State will bring the death penalty onto the table in the next fortnight.
MOO

Although it’s hard to totally put KAK’s involvement to rest on this case after everything we kept hearing about him, I agree with what you are saying.
I think things we considered suspicious at the time, was not KAK trying to cover up his involvement in the girls’ murders but him trying to cover up his CSAM operation, since he knew A/shots had been talking with Libby.
His commenting as A/shots to another young teen, that he was supposed to meet up with Libby was just him playing his A/shots role. He was probably thinking by playing the comforting guy, he could manipulate these children even more.
KAK also is a liar levels above our comprehension. LE finally nailed him on the CSAM charges and were suspicious of his connection to the murders. They interrogated him hard. KAK realized he could walk a line of lies with LE because they were so desperate. He could play them for preferential treatment, and since he has no conscious, doing this on the back of two dead children didn’t matter at all to him. He played that game until someone finally ratted out RA.
I think Libby was handled more brutally during the murders simply because she was the least cooperative of the victims.
It took awhile for me to come around to it, but I believe these two beautiful girls were murdered by a tiny disgusting man for no other reason than to fulfill his sick selfish fantasies. No one else helped him.

My opinion, of which there have been many.
My opinion, until further notice.

 

[Salah11]

For me it just doesn’t add up he arrived just before the girls. He also headed straight for the bridge and he was in a rush.

Why if he didn’t know they was heading there?

If he had spent hours on the trails then I would think it was just a opportunist moment but the way it played out just doesn’t add up as random.

mooo