Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #197

[FrostedGlass]

A lot of information can change in a year. I wonder what TR is thinking now? No case is ever a slam dunk, but I do believe the State has enough evidence, brick by brick, to convict RA.

I don't find recorded and written confessions a godsend to the Prosecution. I find them to be further evidence from a vicious child killer made of RA's own free will.

JMO

MOO

He's probably thinking what a wonderful break it was that RA decided to confess not 3 times, not 27 times but 60+ times. That really should cement the conviction.

Actually, some cases are slam dunks, with solid evidence (which I haven't seen any of in this case yet).
MOO

godsend
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something good that happens unexpectedly, especially at a time when it is needed

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[Vern]

IMO the State's Attorney is not putting anything out in the public domain in an interview regarding evidence that the Prosecution has:

1) that isn't already out there; and
2) that would go against the gag order that is still in effect.

He's smarter than that.

60+ Confessions came loooooong after RA had been subject to search warrant, arrested, locked up and denied bail.

They'll certainly help the case, but they are far from 'all they've got' or 'the crux of the case' no matter how some wish it so; else all those precussors to them simply would not have happened.

10 days until jury selection and we get this case underway and see the beginning to the cards beig laid out on the table.

Bring it on. #JusticeForAbbyAndLibby

 

[FrostedGlass]

What 'plan' are you referring to? Whose plan?

Are you saying someone planned for RA to make dozens and dozens of murder confessions to various people?

I can't speak for another poster so here's what Holeman said that's questionable. IMO.
Emphasized by me for focus.

Jerry Holeman: You’re guilty of something. You’re guilty and I know it and I’m gonna prove it.

If he had said: "and we have proof" I wouldn't have given his statement a second thought. Since he worded it the way he did, my question to him would have been: "If you don't have proof now, after all these years, how exactly do you plan to get it?"

https://fox59.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/21/2024/04/Motionpdf.pdf

 

[FrostedGlass]

IMO the State's Attorney is not putting anything out in the public domain in an interview regarding evidence that the Prosecution has:

1) that isn't already out there; and
2) that would go against the gag order that is still in effect.

He's smarter than that.

60+ Confessions came loooooong after RA had been subject to search warrant, arrested, locked up and denied bail.

They'll certainly help the case, but they are far from 'all they've got' or 'the crux of the case' no matter how some wish it so; else all those precussors to them simply would not have happened.

10 days until jury selection and we get this case underway and see the beginning to the cards beig laid out on the table.

Bring it on. #JusticeForAbbyAndLibby

IMO, he certainly would not have had to say one thing or the other. There was much room for vagueness in the question asked. The fact that he said it was circumstantial (at that time of the interview) speaks volumes.

Still this isn't necessarily a slam dunk case in that
respect; uh.. the evidence is circumstantial.

I want to see Justice done and I want to see it done to the right person and.. and..
and this is not the easiest case to prove in that respect.

 

[shonyakay]

Just want to share this regarding circumstantial evidence.

"Circumstantial evidence has to do with the evidence that you have to use deductive logic to determine that a particular person is guilty of a crime.

There's no eyewitness to it, but if you look at all of the evidence, you lead to the conclusion that the person is guilty or innocent.

Both direct and circumstantial evidence is legitimate proof that someone committed a crime. They are common in all state and federal criminal courts."

"If the circumstantial evidence is believable, it's good enough – just as good, in fact – as direct evidence."

https://www.la-criminaldefense.com/difference-between-direct-and-circumstantial-evidence

 

[steeltowngirl]

Does the AG Todd Rokita have access to all of the evidence and discovery? I’m asking, as I honestly do not know.

Due to the gag order, I have not read about State evidence beyond the PCA, and the bit we’ve learned from the 3 day hearings. Most of that told us about the timeline and the fatal injuries.

I know far more about the alternate investigation brought by the defense.

From the snippet defense shared of the interview with RA. Holeman told RA he would prove it. The interview room wasn’t the place he should prove it, nor is that his job. That place is the courtroom, where Holeman’s testimony, and the rest of the evidence, will be presented by the prosecutors.

As it should be.

jmo

 

[shonyakay]

Woah. Listen to the 2:45 time mark.

He is talking about the reward money and he says, "It's for the person that helped us get the evidence, and a conviction."

Maybe someone who gave a tip that led LE to RA?

 

[FrostedGlass]

Does the AG Todd Rokita have access to all of the evidence and discovery? I’m asking, as I honestly do not know.

Due to the gag order, I have not read about State evidence beyond the PCA, and the bit we’ve learned from the 3 day hearings. Most of that told us about the timeline and the fatal injuries.

I know far more about the alternate investigation brought by the defense.

From the snippet defense shared of the interview with RA. Holeman told RA he would prove it. The interview room wasn’t the place he should prove it, nor is that his job. That place is the courtroom, where Holeman’s testimony, and the rest of the evidence, will be presented by the prosecutors.

As it should be.

jmo

If Indiana's attorney general is not knowledgeable about the case, he sure shouldn't be making such comments on it. "Holding it close to the vest" might have been a better way around the question. MOO

I believe the gag order only applies to extra-judicial statements to the public. IMO

Holeman would not have to prove anything in the interrogation room; but I would have expected him to say "we have proof" instead of what he did say. MHO